quote:

Originally posted by shootaway:
All garbage except the Searcy's.

Missed a few meds, I see.
When you are on medication(s) for your condition(s) you are an agreeable gent. But, when you miss some, you are a stupid son of a bitch.
Or, you just crave attention.
Cal

quote:

Originally posted by cal pappas:

quote:

Originally posted by shootaway:
All garbage except the Searcy's.

Missed a few meds, I see.
When you are on medication(s) for your condition(s) you are an agreeable gent. But, when you miss some, you are a stupid son of a bitch.
Or, you just crave attention.

Cal

LOFL

LHeym500 - These are the specs from Holland & Holland for the factory ammo:

Bullet weight: 12-bore = 740 grains / 48 gram

Bullet diameter: .735" (Fosbery Pattern)

Muzzle velocity: *1050 ft./sec. / 320 m/sec.

Muzzle energy: *1840 ft./lbs. / 2500 joules

Service pressure: 3 ¼ tons " / 850 bar

Cartridge case: 12-bore 2 ½" / 65mm

*Note: At 100 yards the very heavy bullet retains over 90% of the velocity and 85% of the energy making the bullet truly deadly on even the largest soft-skinned game.

That bullet is 1-11/16 ounces of lead. It isn't going fast but it just keeps going.

Here is the trajectory. The new gun has a 50 yd leaf and a 100 yd leaf:


And I worked this up to shoot minute of small paper plate because that's a good target:

Heres a couple of pics of my doubles. A greener shotgun conversion to 577 2 3/4 light nitro and a Chapius UGEX 9.3x74.
Both used regularly on water buff , scrubbers and boars.
Paradox's are very nice. Cheers Mick
previous owners pics


chapius brusse 450 400 top mates rifle, UGEX 9.3x74 bottom recent buff hunt

Greener
Greener

Nice. I need to get down under and 'avago' at some bulls.

I am partial to the British stuff myself, especially the ones with the old style funky animal engravings. But I like Mac's animals, too. Who wouldn't?

All these guns are really something.

Thanks guys.

Nopride2, Dave , very nice army navy 577 2 3/4.
What loads are you using.
Cheers Mick

Some more trash for Shootaway's disapproval...
I need to get better pictures of some of these guns.

Alexander Henry 500 BPE (top) and a Thomas Turner 500 No.2 BPE



Manton 22 Savage Hi Power




W.W. Greener 360 No.2



Westley Richards 350 No.2




Johann Springer 8X57R



W.W. Greener 310 Cadet


Alexander Henry 577 3-1/4" BPE

quote:

Originally posted by cal pappas:

quote:

Originally posted by shootaway:
All garbage except the Searcy's.

Missed a few meds, I see.
When you are on medication(s) for your condition(s) you are an agreeable gent. But, when you miss some, you are a stupid son of a bitch.
Or, you just crave attention.
Cal

Sadly it's hard not to believe you..

Nice collection Huvius.

I used to own a Manton & Co. just like your .22HP. Mine was in 6.5x52R (.25-35) caliber and came naked, no case or accessories. It was very light, petite and fun to shoot. I should have kept that one.

Lordy, lordy some fantastic rifles there gents.

Since I acquired a .350 no2 and some 12s and a 10 double rifles, I crave doubles that have mild recoil. The .22 HP Manton gets my heart pumping. I would like to fine one or a .280 or .300, both flanged.
Keep 'em comin.'
Cal

quote:

Originally posted by Grenadier:
Nice. I need to get down under and 'avago' at some bulls.

I am partial to the British stuff myself, especially the ones with the old style funky animal engravings. But I like Mac's animals, too. Who wouldn't?

All these guns are really something.

Thanks guys.

G:
It is amazing now the finest gunsmiths on the planet would have their kids do the engraving. For then years I have had a love affair with my .600 Wilkes but I still can't figure out what the hell kind of critter is engraved on the action! Kind of a three way cross between a rhino, pig, and something from another world.
Cal

Here's some pics of my Merkel 470 that has been restocked, with a fiber optic front blade sight.

Cal - Maybe it's a "suggestive representation".

G:
It is amazing now the finest gunsmiths on the planet would have their kids do the engraving. For then years I have had a love affair with my .600 Wilkes but I still can't figure out what the hell kind of critter is engraved on the action! Kind of a three way cross between a rhino, pig, and something from another world.
Cal[/QUOTE]

Cal;

I have the answer to the identification of the "critter": it is a Tasmanian Tiger, now extinct. Well read and educated in the ancient natural science, those kids of the gunmakers.

quote:

Originally posted by Use Enough Gun:
Here's some pics of my Merkel 470 that has been restocked, with a fiber optic front blade sight.

Can't tell on the photos but does yours have side clips?
These side clips are something I'm impressed with and was supprized that Merkel use to do them

Yes it does.

Two of my rifles have side clips--a .600 and .500. I like this feature very much as it adds a touch of class to an already fine rifle.
Cal

I will take the Searcy sidelock rising bite than all others combined.
One rifle looks like the Daisy red ryder and a few look like something a pre-historic man would use.

: rolleyes:

there might be a lead mine leaking in to the water supply, up montreal way

something for sure is putting a flat spot on the not so round ''anymore if it ever really was'' marble

it rolls along just fine for a little bit then thump --- done, good god, I have done it again [some one seems to be missing the done it again part]

good example of side clips these are on some fine guns, for example CG's [ Canada George's ] double gun. show em to em CG best gun in the world, and all that

quote:

Originally posted by shootaway:
I will take the Searcy sidelock rising bite than all others combined.
One rifle looks like the Daisy red ryder and a few look like something a pre-historic man would use.

You sir are a troll.

not my gun but look at the lock up on this one
seems it's got all the compelling features

Wow! So many beautiful rifles. As soon as I return from my trip will dig mine out of the safes and post some photos.
Maybe I will have shootaways approval because one is a Searcy

Mick (264wm spritzer)

Load for the 2 3/4" bpe:
520 gr. paper patched bullet
2 gr. Unique
62 gr. 4198
Fed. 215 primer
2 1" foam wads OAL 3.235

Killed a couple of deer with this load. I was a bit under gunned, but marks man ship made the difference.

Dave

quote:

Originally posted by nopride2:

577 2 3/4" bpe:
520 gr. paper patched bullet

Killed a couple of deer with this load. I was a bit under gunned, but marks man ship made the difference.

Grenadier: Thank you for the information. Good to see a Gibbs getting in a punch.
264: I love the over shoulder shot of you and the scrub bull caught against the bank. One of yuns had the other where you wanted him.

UEG: That Merkel stands tall . What caliber?

Shoot away: Respectfully, put up or shut up. Let us see that searcy.
We have had VC, Merkel, kregoff, searcy, and chapius repsented well from the modern rifles. Where are my Heym brothen. Respectfully, we can not let the French out do us.

UEG: I just got in (hot day). I see where you told us the Merkel is 470. Sorry for the stupid question.
Huvius: If my memory is right you also have some wonderful single shots. Thank you as well. I meant to type Greener not Gibbs in the previous post. Hot day.

This is the 12ga bore double rifle I recently picked up, made by Lou Alessandri. It's outfitted with fully-rifled barrels, tang over comb, express sights, claw mount bases, leather covered recoil pad, great wood, and a full set of loading tools. I'm researching the rifle now...it was supposed to have been made for one of the Jurassic Park movies. Alessandri is known for his ultra-high-end firearm cleaning sets that sold as high as $14,995!!!

quote:

Originally posted by LHeym500:
Grenadier: Thank you for the information. Good to see a Gibbs getting in a punch.
264: I love the over shoulder shot of you and the scrub bull caught against the bank. One of yuns had the other where you wanted him.

UEG: That Merkel stands tall . What caliber?

Shoot away: Respectfully, put up or shut up. Let us see that searcy.
We have had VC, Merkel, kregoff, searcy, and chapius repsented well from the modern rifles. Where are my Heym brothen. Respectfully, we can not let the French out do us.

This thread is too commercial.

Mr. Biebs: Thank you for posting your 12 bore from your prior post to our database. I thank you for your help on the forum. Those cartridges look like artillery pieces. How long are the pipes?
Mr. Subsailor: Have you shot the risingbite yet?
UEG and Ozhunter: I like the older shoe lump Merkels more than the new model without cocking indicators and monobolck system.
Nothing wrong with the new ones; just my opinion. If anyone has a new Merkel, please post it. They are by all accounts weapons to be proud of. Everyone should feel like King Arthur unsheathing Excalibur when they reach for their double. I know I do.

Agreed.

quote:

Originally posted by shootaway:

This thread is too commercial.

Yeah, too commercial, like the names of Hollis, Boswell, Springer, Greener, and Gibbs. Way too commercial.
You act as though Butch is paying you by the word... You are a disservice to the Searcy brand.
I normally reserve comment but your attitude this time requires a response.

In the interest of commericalism, I present (thanks to Mr. Biebs) my 150 anniversary Heym 500. I hope this works. Please note the Prudy side clips.
Well, that did not work. But see my first post and you will get the idea.
Someone post a double rifle, so we can get back on track. Thank you Mr. H.

quote:

Originally posted by LHeym500:
Grenadier: Thank you for the information. Good to see a Gibbs getting in a punch.
264: I love the over shoulder shot of you and the scrub bull caught against the bank. One of yuns had the other where you wanted him.

UEG: That Merkel stands tall . What caliber?

Shoot away: Respectfully, put up or shut up. Let us see that searcy.
We have had VC, Merkel, kregoff, searcy, and chapius repsented well from the modern rifles. Where are my Heym brothen. Respectfully, we can not let the French out do us.

I for one am still waiting for George to tell us why his PH had to practically rebuild that Searcy to get it to fire in Zimbabwe.

quote:

Originally posted by LHeym500:

Someone post a double rifle, so we can get back on track. Thank you Mr. H.

Now I know of a particular remote Valley in the north of Australia which is full up with Buffalo and a perfect spot for a good run with a Double Rifles..

This thread is almost as much fun as a visit to Champlins! Beautiful rifles!

biebs that is a front seat in first class

kind of a set up you have there


0z -- that picture grab's me '''hopelessly''' homesick for a place 300 k due east of darwin

deep inside a paper bark cathedral, gold rays leaking through, a black ear here a piece of leg there, all mixed up, tree buffalo and me, light sloshing about, rifle in hand

you are killing me man that's not a double rifle

that double is at work

not the same

a woman, a woman that works

very different

one rare

the other not so much

Left: Webley & Scott .450/.400 3 1/4" N.E. Built in 1922-23 (mine)

Right: Army & Navy .450 N.E.Built in 1905. (Owned by a Section Ranger in Kruger NP). Refurbished by Westley Richards some years ago