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American Antelope up to Bull Elephant is the targeted game. Two double rifles will be the battery. .375 or larger will be SxS and under .375 will be O/U 'cause I love those in the "smaller bores". THe O/U may be two calibers, smaller on top. Put forth your caliber choices for each rifle and don't exclude the less common such as .425 W/R. Big bore must be flanged but the O/U need not be and more common calibers would be preferred, say .375 H&H belted mag and 30-06. I know I broke my own rule there, but I nor you, will "go to the chair" over it.  D/R Hunter Correct bullet placement, combined with the required depth of bullet penetration, results in an anchored animal... | ||
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9.3X74R or 375 H&H for the light gun and 500 NE for the heavy. A middle gun would be 450-400 or a 45-70. | |||
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Easy: 375 Flanged 600 Nitro Express    NRA Lifer; DSC Lifer; SCI member; DRSS; AR member since November 9 2003 Don't Save the best for last, the smile for later or the "Thanks" for tomorow | |||
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Show-off :-) PS: How much was the Elephant rental??? | |||
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.375 Flanged and a .500 or a .470. | |||
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Disney has good deals if you're a Club member.  NRA Lifer; DSC Lifer; SCI member; DRSS; AR member since November 9 2003 Don't Save the best for last, the smile for later or the "Thanks" for tomorow | |||
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375HH/416Rigby & 470NE/500NE  ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- “A man can never have too much red wine, too many books, or too much ammunition” ― Rudyard Kipling | |||
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Almost there with CCMDoc, but not quite. .450-400 and .600 I'll show off, too. Second and third from the bottom. Cheers, Cal  _______________________________ Cal Pappas, Willow, Alaska www.CalPappas.com www.CalPappas.blogspot.com 1994 Zimbabwe 1997 Zimbabwe 1998 Zimbabwe 1999 Zimbabwe 1999 Namibia, Botswana, Zambia--vacation 2000 Australia 2002 South Africa 2003 South Africa 2003 Zimbabwe 2005 South Africa 2005 Zimbabwe 2006 Tanzania 2006 Zimbabwe--vacation 2007 Zimbabwe--vacation 2008 Zimbabwe 2012 Australia 2013 South Africa 2013 Zimbabwe 2013 Australia 2016 Zimbabwe 2017 Zimbabwe 2018 South Africa 2018 Zimbabwe--vacation 2019 South Africa 2019 Botswana 2019 Zimbabwe vacation 2021 South Africa 2021 South Africa (2nd hunt a month later) ______________________________ | |||
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For me. the bigger bore would be either a .450 or .470 Nitro, because I have long used and long liked those cartridges in SxS DRs. And it would have to be be a SxS DR to suit me. For the smaller DR, it would ALSO be a SxS. The only use I would have for the big bore SxS would be for DG. That being the case, I would not want to confuse my muscle memory by having two different types of DRs, so I would rather do without the smaller bore than have two different kinds of DR actions. That's just my own choice, not some kind of rule. As a SxS DR in a smaller bore, I would like any PRACTICAL equivalent to the .318 WR in a rimmed case. The closest would probably be the 8x56R Austrian round, but I don't consider it practical from an ammo supply standpoint (SP bullets) around the world. So the 8x56R would be a no-go for me. So that would leave me choices such as the .303 Brit, 9.3x74R, .375 H&H Flanged, and a few others. I thought of the 8x57R, but would want more strongly loaded ammo. I'd probably choose the 9.3x74R. Not because it is ideal, or even what I really like, but as the best compromise. Maybe I have forgotten some other really good flanged medium bore with ballistics and penetration suitable for plains or NA game up to big bears and including Eland, and so on. If so, I'm sure someone here will point the other options out. My country gal's just a moonshiner's daughter, but I love her still. | |||
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I have done quite a bit of hunting with doubles. I have used them in Texas, Montana, Idaho, Alaska, Canada, and Zimbabwe. I have shot more different species with doubles than any other rifle. If I could have only 2 doubles, one would be a 450/400 3", with a Doctor Optic, and a scope in claw mounts. The second would be a 9,3x74R, with a DO and a 1.7 top 10 Swarovski scope in claw mounts. Both scopes with illuminated reticles, both doubles Heym's. If I was going to do a lot of elephant hunting, which would mean I had a lot of money I would add a another Heym double in 450 NE [I like the 458 bore, my 450 No2 has worked for me perfectly], or a 470 NE. I would also want a smaller bore dopuble for longer range shooting at der/antelope sized game. I have a Heym Mod 26 B O/U in 30/30 that I really like. I bought the 30/30 specifically to hunt deer, pigs, turkeys, and coyotes on my Texas deer lease. A better all round calibre for this O/U would be the 8x57R, or the 7x57R. The Heym 26B is set up for a Heym QD Optical mount that you can get for a DO, and 1" and 30mm scopes. This mount goes on and off and holds zero perfectly. Withnthese 4 doubles you would be set for all game and have some overlap/spare rifle capability. Example on a mixed bag Areican hunt, take one of the large bores and the 9,3x74R. Hunting only elephants, thake the 2 large bores. For deer, elk, moose, to black bear in the USA take the 9,3x74R and the 26B. For brown bear, take the 400 and the 9,3. DOUBLE RIFLE SHOOTERS SOCIETY | |||
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577NE VC for the Big Bore:  500NE VC for the medium Bore. Being Built but here is the Merkel it is replacing:  And a Chapuis 9.3X74R scoped with a Trijicon for those longers shots as the light rifle:  What else does a man need in the way of doubles? Maybe a little 28ga shotgun for doves and such?   | |||
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A man with a plan and I could not agree more other than I like the Chapuis's in the smaller sizes. My double arsenal consists of the 30R Blaser for the smaller stuff that might be further away. The 9,3 for the medium critters and it works fine on Alaskan moose as well. 450/400 for the bigger bears and the 450 NE for the big ens. Would add I like my Baikal 30-06 and call it my disposable double as it is cheap to buy and if it gets scratched or rusted it simply doesnt matter. My biggest fear is when I die my wife will sell my guns for what I told her they cost. | |||
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For me, the 45-70 & 470 combo works well. I know that the 470 is a little on the light side for elephant but is better than a 375. Although not a Dangerous Game cablre, the 45-70 will flatten 99% of what you're going to shoot in North America with readily available ammunition. What the 45-70 can't handle, the 470 will. | |||
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Just two? Ken DRSS, PP Chapter Life NRA Life SCI Life DSC | |||
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Yeah, that's about like calling an African Safari "a once in a lifetime event". No such thing. The only addiction coming close is that of double rifles. Hell, it may be worse. | |||
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.470 NE double rifle and a Drilling in 12/12/.30-06. Got everything you'll ever need for any game in the world. JP Sauer Drilling 12x12x9.3x72 David Murray Scottish Hammer 12 Bore Alex Henry 500/450 Double Rifle Steyr Classic Mannlicher Fullstock 6.5x55 Steyr Classic Mannlicher Fullstock .30-06 Walther PPQ H2 9mm Walther PPS M2 Cogswell & Harrison Hammer 12 Bore Damascus And Too Many More | |||
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If you want some really neat big stuff 450#2 or 475#2 and a 500 for crushing the oposition. Mike | |||
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470 on the light side for elephant??? I have had no trouble killing them with a 450 No2, a 450/400 or even my 9,3x74R. I would not be afraid to take a contract to cull 1000 elephants with a 450/400... DOUBLE RIFLE SHOOTERS SOCIETY | |||
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I'm not saying that the the 470 can't get the job done; I'm saying that I had a choice, I'd choose a 500 for elephant. I believe the 470 to be the best all around calibre for DG. Others have different opinions on what they like. The problem with culling a 1000 elephants would be the cost of the ammo! Although I wish that was a problem I had to deal with. Cheers, Tyler | |||
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All the thoughts expressed above are appreciated. With all the continuing trouble involved with airlines And 11 mm bans and what ever, maybe it's better to top out at 500/416 as the heavy! D/R Hunter Correct bullet placement, combined with the required depth of bullet penetration, results in an anchored animal... | |||
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9.3x74R or .375 flanged. Both great cartridges. The 9.3 with the big, relatively slow moving bullet kills big time and doesn't ruin much meat. On either I would have one or two QD mounted scopes. I used to be a huge fan of claw mounts. If I were to order one new today, I would opt for the swing mount as it allows for the objective bell to be much closer (lower) to the rib. .500 Nitro. Great cartridge. Way better than all of the .470 class cartridges with managable additional recoil. .577 Nitro. This one is optional. Not really necessary but great to own. Personally, I would only own side by sides with double triggers. Good luck with your decision. Deo Vindice, Don Sons of Confederate Veterans Black Horse Camp #780 | |||
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Don- Of all people you know it is impossible to just own two, or are you going to let him find out for himself? Ken DRSS, PP Chapter Life NRA Life SCI Life DSC | |||
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If I’m limited to only two double rifles then my best choice would be a 375 Flanged magnum, with a Quick detach scope, and a 500NE. Both would be a side by side. If three doubles would be allowed then I would still have both the above rifles and a 450/400NE 3” in the middle. Actually nothing smaller or larger is needed. All three S/S If like you I wanted the smallest to be an over/under then the bottom one would be chambered for 375Flanged magnum or 9.3X74R scoped in EAW swing mount. .........................................................................  ....Mac >>>===(x)===> MacD37, ...and DUGABOY1 DRSS Charter member "If I die today, I've had a life well spent, for I've been to see the Elephant, and smelled the smoke of Africa!"~ME 1982 Hands of Old Elmer Keith  | |||
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