Finally got new replacement rifle from Davidsons. Took it out yesterday to sight in. With new Leupold 1-4x, steel Millet rings, 300gr.load of proven accuracy the barrels have 4.5" vertical dispersion at 25yds., off the bench. This is the same as rifle I just returned! Not sure what is next.

Isn't one of the barrels adjustable via a wedge?

George

Are you willing to work on it yourself (if you're moderately handy) just keep swapping them out?

They are only adjustable in the horizontal plane, to answer GeorgeS question. However, they are also easy to adjust in the vertical plane if you are willing to do some work to it. As in, remove the locating pins and solder the front band to the barrels. You can then heat it and move it any place you want. That is what I would do.

At this time a will ask for a refund. I do not wish to fix (and void warranty) on a bottom line product. I will most likely try for new Kriegoff DR, ejector model.

That is why Baikals cost 800 and Krieghoffs cost twelve thousand. I always expect to have to work on production rifles regardless of who or where, they are made.

Should be pretty easy to slip in a piece of shim on the barrel that moves.

If you expected the rifle to shoot perfectly without putting any effort into it you picked the wrong rifle.

Shim idea would be a no go; there is not enough room and the band is very thin. The barrels fit snugly in the band. I have heard of people using set screws but again, the band is very thin. Solder; easy fix.

I have no plans to chop up a new rifle to fix a factory defect. Am working with gun store and Davidsons on a possible replacement in .30-06 (thicker barrels, slightly more weight), and/or full refund. Last time I checked a proper re-regulation of DR barrels started at $800 plus ammunition cost. If this was a used rifle, no warranty,then I would consider other options.

My 45/70 did the same thing with vertical separation when they first came out. It was an easy fix. Went to the auto parts store and bought a feeler gauge set. It was very easy to slip the appropriate size feeler gauge between the band and barrel. Found the one that brought the vertical regulation to perfect, then broke it off even with the barrel band. I'm really pleased with this rifle now. You are talking about a fix less than $10.

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Originally posted by Jerry Macy:
I have no plans to chop up a new rifle to fix a factory defect. Am working with gun store and Davidsons on a possible replacement in .30-06 (thicker barrels, slightly more weight), and/or full refund. Last time I checked a proper re-regulation of DR barrels started at $800 plus ammunition cost. If this was a used rifle, no warranty,then I would consider other options.

The Baikals are adjustable for regulation, therefore re-regulation is accomplished by the shooter.
I've owned 4 of these in the past and they are what they are. That being a cheap ass ugly double with piss poor triggers. But if you spend some time with them you can get them to shoot. A set screw is a good idea. I don't have a rifle to look at as I type this but the one's I owned had enough space to slip in a shim inside the barrel band.

Spend some time experimenting with it and you might be rewarded with a rifle that can shoot both barrels into 1.25 inches at 50 yards. I know all of mine pretty much did. Then get a trigger job on it and you will be good to go.

The one I have has zero room for a shim; the band fits very snugly to the barrels. Also, it wouldn't cost anywhere near 800 to fix this rifle; (more like one hour's work) that cost is for a traditionally made DR; I understand you do not want to do it. Again, they are what they are; an $800 double rifle with lots of potential. And best of all, easy to regulate.

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Originally posted by Judge Jerry:
My 45/70 did the same thing with vertical separation when they first came out. It was an easy fix. Went to the auto parts store and bought a feeler gauge set. It was very easy to slip the appropriate size feeler gauge between the band and barrel. Found the one that brought the vertical regulation to perfect, then broke it off even with the barrel band. I'm really pleased with this rifle now. You are talking about a fix less than $10.

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Snowwolf dpcd; right on the money couldn't have said it better.


Best regards

Malek
Good shooting/hunting and God's best.

Triple thumbs up. Trust us, an automotive feeler gauge shim will slip between the barrel and the band. They are only a few thousands thick and it makes a HUGE difference.

Good luck!

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Originally posted by malek:

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Originally posted by Judge Jerry:
My 45/70 did the same thing with vertical separation when they first came out. It was an easy fix. Went to the auto parts store and bought a feeler gauge set. It was very easy to slip the appropriate size feeler gauge between the band and barrel. Found the one that brought the vertical regulation to perfect, then broke it off even with the barrel band. I'm really pleased with this rifle now. You are talking about a fix less than $10.

+1


Snowwolf dpcd; right on the money couldn't have said it better.


Best regards

Malek
Good shooting/hunting and God's best.

Trust me; no feeler gauge of any thickness will go between the barrel and the band on my Baikal. You would not want them to be loose. I just tried a .0015 feeler, the thickest in my set, and it won't even start to go in. If yours accepted a shim; good. Mine didn't need one, and I would not have used that method anyway.

I know I got lucky, but I bought mine in 30-06 brand new from my local shop for $600 out the door. Took it home and shot it with factory Federal Blue box 180gr. At 50yds off the bench with open sights it kept the first 6 rds all well inside of 3 inches without any adjustment. Considering the cost of the rifle and the quality of my eyesight, that is nothing less than exceptional. I painted the front post with some white enamel paint for easier viewing and called it a day. Like I said, VERY lucky!
P.S. I named it Ivan and am now looking forward to killing something with it!

Mine will shoot well into 1.5 inches at 50 yards and took only a few rounds to adjust. It seems that the problems are with the 45-70s, which are more sensitive due to the slow bullets and recoil. (I did have a scope)

I obtained a refund. Will hold out for a Merkel or K-gun.

What caliber?

There are two Ks in the AR classifieds now for very good prices; both 470s. Small cal Ks are impossible to find in the US; have to be ordered.