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1. I just picked up my new Sabatti .450 NE from my gunsmith who received it from Cabela's on my behalf.

2. In the week that he's had it he carefully went over it, and has stated that workmanship conforms to high standards. Note that he builds high-end rifles for a broad spectrum of competitors and sporting clients; the competition rifles routinely place well in the top ten at Whittington. Will furnish his name, etc on request.

3. I find the fit and finish to be on a par with my Merkel .375 H & H DR. Triggers, as received, are right at 4 pounds. The included regulation target had both shots on the center white at ~ 1".

4. Selected the .450 on account of ammunition availability and versatile reloadability. The .450 bullet at 480 grains/2150 fps/4996 ft-lb compared to the .470 bullet at 500 grains/2150 fps/5140 ft-lb...not too much difference. Shot placement is everthing! Will be using Hornady DGX and Rhino bullets. GDS for follow-up shots...hopefully not required.

5. Cape buffalo hunt scheduled for July in RSA. .450 is primary rifle (no scope). Backup rifles are Win Model 70 .375 H&H w/scope, using 380 grain Rhino bullets, and an open sight Merkel .375 H&H DR using the same ammo. RSA law says you can't bring in more than one rifle of same calibre. The past two trips my wife has held the permit on one of the rifles.

6. Took a Sabatti .45-70 this past year for the camera man or PH to carry...they loved it!

7. More later as load devlopment and practice proceed.

8. Meanwhile, it's time to continue fly tying and getting ready for Belize.

9. Three DRs bought in 9 months...you are right...it's an addiction.

Eagle One

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Posts: 80 | Location: Colo Spgs, CO & Sterkrivier, RSA | Registered: 29 July 2010Reply With Quote
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Hey Eagle One,

Congratulations on the new Sabatti and good luck on the upcoming Cape buff hunt. beer

My experiences with the two Sabatti's I have owned and that of many others here have been similar to your own. tu2

Again good luck and stay well,


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I have been through gunsmithing school, including taking class from W. Ellis Brown, converting double shotguns to double rifles, prior to his writing his book on same subject (now in its 2nd edition), and I have used his methods for converting a number of guns to double rifles, up to and including .577 full nitro on big Spanish 10 ga. mag. actions, all successfully. Further, through the years, I have worked on a great many double rifles from various worldwide makers, and have a large collection of doubler rifles, British and German mostly. Thus, I think that I have learned a thing or two about double rifles through the years. I also now own 3 (yes, three) Sabatti double rifles, a .470, a .500, and a .450/.400 (Jeffery .400), because, for the price, they can't be beat, and I think highly of them. I have done quite a bit of custom work on my Sabattis, upgrading them---they are good double rifles, but with some custom work they are even better. I have found the steel in the actions to be of a top quality alloy steel, with outstanding hardness and toughness, strength for purpose, comparable, as good or better than similar alloy steels used by the other worldwide modern top double rifle makers (such as the German and French makers). The Sabatti receivers are also electroplated inside and out for outstanding protection against corrosion. Too, the overall design, build strength, and fabrication of these Sabatti receivers is simply outstanding, which should come as no surprise, coming from the Italians, who now make the best over/unders in the world. Sabatti uses almost all V springs, well polished and made, except for only one coil spring, for the top lever, unlike a lot of other modern makers, including one well liked American maker, that uses mostly coil springs. Coil springs are ok, but I am a traditionalist, and prefer V springs, as used in the great classic British doubles, and most other early classic doubles from Germany. The Sabatti southgate pattern (Holland & Holland type) V spring ejectors are very well made, using excellent steel. Sabatti "Engraving" is from a design developed by an Italian engraver, and is cut with CNC guided cutters or lasers, and is the best of machine engraving that I have ever seen, not looking at all "tacky," and machine cut looking, as similar type engraving I have seen on many other guns. I WOULD FULLY AGREE WITH ASSESSMENT BY YOUR GUNSMITH.
Please, don't allow a cape buffalo to damage your Sabatti, LOL!
My .470 Sabatti shoots as accurately as my Westley Richards .375 flanged mag., which are the two most accurate double rifles I own..
 
Posts: 121 | Location: Oregon | Registered: 29 February 2008Reply With Quote
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Whew!

doubleriflejack,

I'd love to see pics of what you have done to your Sabattis! Sounds like they are great stuff.

I'm glad the Sabattis you (and most everybody else) have are OK, I envy your good fortune. Smiler

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Eagle One,

Congratulations on your Sabatti .450NE, I'm glad you got a good one! tu2

Post some pics if/when you can.


Good luck on your up-coming Buffalo hunt!


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I'll second that request.

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Eagle One,
Thanks for your post, good luck on your hunt and welcome to the highly unofficial Sabatti owners club. I'm always interested in opinions of gunsmiths regarding the Sabatti DRs. Please tell us where you are located and your gunsmiths name.


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Originally posted by doubleriflejack:
I have been through gunsmithing school, including taking class from W. Ellis Brown, converting double shotguns to double rifles, prior to his writing his book on same subject (now in its 2nd edition), and I have used his methods for converting a number of guns to double rifles, up to and including .577 full nitro on big Spanish 10 ga. mag. actions, all successfully. Further, through the years, I have worked on a great many double rifles from various worldwide makers, and have a large collection of doubler rifles, British and German mostly. Thus, I think that I have learned a thing or two about double rifles through the years. I also now own 3 (yes, three) Sabatti double rifles, a .470, a .500, and a .450/.400 (Jeffery .400), because, for the price, they can't be beat, and I think highly of them. I have done quite a bit of custom work on my Sabattis, upgrading them---they are good double rifles, but with some custom work they are even better. I have found the steel in the actions to be of a top quality alloy steel, with outstanding hardness and toughness, strength for purpose, comparable, as good or better than similar alloy steels used by the other worldwide modern top double rifle makers (such as the German and French makers). The Sabatti receivers are also electroplated inside and out for outstanding protection against corrosion. Too, the overall design, build strength, and fabrication of these Sabatti receivers is simply outstanding, which should come as no surprise, coming from the Italians, who now make the best over/unders in the world. Sabatti uses almost all V springs, well polished and made, except for only one coil spring, for the top lever, unlike a lot of other modern makers, including one well liked American maker, that uses mostly coil springs. Coil springs are ok, but I am a traditionalist, and prefer V springs, as used in the great classic British doubles, and most other early classic doubles from Germany. The Sabatti southgate pattern (Holland & Holland type) V spring ejectors are very well made, using excellent steel. Sabatti "Engraving" is from a design developed by an Italian engraver, and is cut with CNC guided cutters or lasers, and is the best of machine engraving that I have ever seen, not looking at all "tacky," and machine cut looking, as similar type engraving I have seen on many other guns. I WOULD FULLY AGREE WITH ASSESSMENT BY YOUR GUNSMITH.
Please, don't allow a cape buffalo to damage your Sabatti, LOL!
My .470 Sabatti shoots as accurately as my Westley Richards .375 flanged mag., which are the two most accurate double rifles I own..


Would love to see some photos and details of some of the rifles you converted, especially the bigger bores.

Do you have a web site?


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