Double rifles are not just for Africa

14 November 2013, 16:50

cal pappas

Fellas:
Doubles are not just for Africa. Here is my caribou from this past August in ANWR. My doc and I were 230 miles north of the Arctic Circle and about 65 miles south of the Arctic Ocean in Alaska's northeast corner. ANWR is the Arctic National Wildlife Reserve. It is floating on a sea of oil but is federal land so senators from New Jersey et.al. vote on drilling there. It is a beautiful place. Any AR gents who wish to hunt there or join me in camp feel free to email me for details at <pappas@mtaonline.net.

Also, the rifle I used was pictured in my Cal's Garbage thread but in a small file. I found a larger file and it is here for more detail. Yes, I need at least one rifle with a 'scope for old eyes.
Hope to see you all at Dalals.
Cal

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14 November 2013, 17:14

Steve Ahrenberg

Hmmmmm, DR's, North America? I feel this is nothing more than an ill conceived trap to paint Shootaway into corner.

Once he bites, the other shoe is sure to drop.

Great picture Cal, maybe I will be the photographer next fall.

Good day,

Steve

14 November 2013, 17:55

Bill Cooley

Nice caribou. You mean you can kill something besides pigs in Nort America with a double?
Bill

14 November 2013, 21:04

Snowwolfe

Nice caribou. Doubles in North America? My Chapuis has killed it's share of Alaskan moose. It was my go to moose rifle for 5 years.
Hard to find a nicer rifle to carry while sneaking through the woods hunting white tails or black bear than a light weight double.

14 November 2013, 21:18

dpcd

Since I will never be able to go to Africa, all my double rifles are used only on hogs and bears. My first bear, many years ago, fell to a 9.3x74R Perugini and Visini; dropped with one shot, but I gave him the left barrel just in case. I never fire just one barrel at anything.

14 November 2013, 21:26

big will

Why is it the big 3 never look in making twin barrels that are rifled?
There are plenty of game and calibers that they could produce
for the American hunters, For example the Hog game, I would like feedback
on this may we can get the lazy guys off their backside.

14 November 2013, 21:38

Snowwolfe

Market share is simply to low. If you want a cheap double buy a Baikal 30-06. Owned three and everyone was turned into a tack driver for the price of a trigger job and some range tuning. If you can hunt with a piece of shit but want a double they make a great choice.
Sabatti's are hit and miss but can be a great bargin for a 9,3 or 45-70. For the prices Cabelas is blowing them out for I would try one if they made a lefty.

My choice always goes to the Chapuis. Can be built to order in some of the smaller calibers such as Blaser 30R and 9,3x74R for the mid 4K price range.

14 November 2013, 21:46

cal pappas

Gents:
How about some pics of your North American game with doubles?
Cal

15 November 2013, 14:16

Rhodes

Cal

Great field photo and a nice teaser.

How about a story of the hunt to back it up?

Rhodes

15 November 2013, 16:27

degoins

Here's an 8 point whitetail I killed with my VC 450 fhe 28th of September. He weighed 170. I was using Hornady factory softpoints. End to end pass through.

15 November 2013, 16:28

degoins

Well that didnt work.

15 November 2013, 17:05

Akshooter

15 November 2013, 19:13

Zephyr

quote:
Originally posted by degoins:
Here's an 8 point whitetail I killed with my VC 450 fhe 28th of September. He weighed 170. I was using Hornady factory softpoints. End to end pass through.
How much did he weigh after you shot him

15 November 2013, 20:17

Todd Williams

Black bear taken with the Chapuis 9.3.

15 November 2013, 20:46

usps

I hunt white tails every year with my jp sauer .43 Spanish back action hammer gun. once I shoot a decent buck I go to a bolt action for the rest of the season.

15 November 2013, 22:52

touchdown88

Here's what I've killed with my 45-70 double rifle.

15 November 2013, 23:23

Todd Williams

Nice STOP on that bunny rabbit double tap! Those Chargun Bunnies are almost as dangerous as the Barkun Squirrels round here!

16 November 2013, 01:55

D R Hunter

quote:
Originally posted by Todd Williams:
Black bear taken with the Chapuis 9.3.

It's brown.

(Couldn't resist)

Actually, I wish to get a nice black bear like that Todd, good shooting!
What I'd really like to add is that in the USA I love the idea of muzzle
loader DR's and exposed hammer DR's very much.

16 November 2013, 04:16

Seasons44

quote:
Originally posted by touchdown88:
Here's what I've killed with my 45-70 double rifle.

Great P.E.T.A shirt, thanks for supporting Cooking Wild

16 November 2013, 05:58

Todd Williams

quote:
Originally posted by D R Hunter:
quote:
Originally posted by Todd Williams:
Black bear taken with the Chapuis 9.3.

It's brown. (Couldn't resist)

Actually, I wish to get a nice black bear like that Todd, good shooting!
What I'd really like to add is that in the USA I love the idea of muzzle
loader DR's and exposed hammer DR's very much.

Unfortunately, it was rather "small" as well. More like a brown dog than a Brown Bear! Ground shrinkage and all!

17 November 2013, 06:00

Akshooter

17 November 2013, 06:44

RIP

quote:
Originally posted by Zephyr:
quote:
Originally posted by degoins:
Here's an 8 point whitetail I killed with my VC 450 fhe 28th of September. He weighed 170. I was using Hornady factory softpoints. End to end pass through.
How much did he weigh after you shot him

The first deer2013 at www.carolinabucks.com

must surely be the one:

17 November 2013, 20:52

joester

Both Winchester and Browning produced o/u rifles in .270 & .30/'06...Belgian made, in the 1970's I think, called "Grand European". I have one of each in .270. The Browning shoots great with open sights but I don't really want to drill & tap it for a scope. My eyes are asking for scoped rifles at this point. My Winchester is at the gunsmith w/ ejector issues. Its scoped. But they are notorious for not being regulated. I've been advised to try different ammo in each barrel and hope for a close-hit combo. I know it MAY be able to be regulated but I don't want to put $ into it.No game killed yet but I'll be sure to post pics if and when.

03 December 2013, 04:26

degoins

RIP,
Thanks for fixing my picture. Sorry it took me so long to respond.

03 December 2013, 17:59

MacD37

In the last few years I've hunted everything with a double rifle or shotgun.

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28 December 2013, 17:05

srose

Heym 577 with a 600 grain CEB Safari Raptor. Range 30 yards straight on. No tracking needed.

Bullet base exited the ham in the thick hair in back of ham. Very little meat damage. Lost one shoulder and a small bit in the ham. Bullet traveled just under the backbone on its way thru the deer. The heart was gone could not find any identifiable part of it. Lungs and liver were pretty chewed up as well. Had petals exit the shoulder, two out the top of back and one stuck in skin at top of back right behind shoulders. Now this shows again that the petals will open on light game even in a big bore. Also shows that petals do go away from main wound in all directions just like tests show. Those worried about meat damage can go ahead and use Raptors without fear of losing too much meat. The base of the bullet exits caliber size even on light game. The insides are juice.

28 December 2013, 22:57

BrettAKSCI

We need some more smiles in these pictures. It looks like someone pissed in a few people's Wheaties here!!!

Brett

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28 December 2013, 23:11

vangulik

quote:
Originally posted by joester:
Both Winchester and Browning produced o/u rifles in .270 & .30/'06...Belgian made, in the 1970's I think, called "Grand European". I have one of each in .270. The Browning shoots great with open sights but I don't really want to drill & tap it for a scope. My eyes are asking for scoped rifles at this point. My Winchester is at the gunsmith w/ ejector issues. Its scoped. But they are notorious for not being regulated. I've been advised to try different ammo in each barrel and hope for a close-hit combo. I know it MAY be able to be regulated but I don't want to put $ into it.No game killed yet but I'll be sure to post pics if and when.

The Browning and Winchester rifles are completely different.

The Winchester Grand Europeans built on Winchester 101 shotgun actions in at least 30/06, 270, 7x57, and 9.3x74R were made in Japan and were basically not regulated. Re-regulation paid for by the owner was typically required. JJ used to do this well, but I think that I recently read online that he no longer is interested.

The Winchester rifles were shipped with EAW, or similar, scope mounts and rings installed.

The Browning Continental Express rifles imported into the US were made in Belgium on B-25 Superposed shotgun actions in 30/06 and 270 and were much better, though not always acceptable to some users, regulated.

The Browning rifles imported into the US were not factory set-up for scope mounting. Gunsmithing, perhaps followed by re-regulation, was required for scope installation.

Browning B-25 action express rifles are still made, but not regularly imported into the US. Current starting list price for the lowest cost model, the CCS Herstal, is about $12K. It is available in a variety of calibers, including 8x57JRS, well-suited for North America. The CCS Herstal model, at least, is now factory set-up for relatively easy scope installation.

Browning also made, and still makes, reasonably regulated lower cost Express rifles based on Japanese made actions. At least some of them were finished, regulated, and perhaps had barrels fitted, in Belgium. Only a few have been imported into the US.

28 December 2013, 23:13

srose

How did you know I wasn't smiling!

28 December 2013, 23:26

shootaway

I would use mine just for Africa.I find it inappropriate or out of place for anywhere else.
There is the weather factor to look at also.
Every place and game animal has its weapon.

28 December 2013, 23:40

Use Enough Gun

RIP or degoins: Where did you get your double rifle hunting jacket? Who makes it?

29 December 2013, 00:13

JDA-CO

quote:
Originally posted by shootaway:
I would use mine just for Africa.I find it inappropriate or out of place for anywhere else.
There is the weather factor to look at also.
Every place and game animal has its weapon.

That's funny...

29 December 2013, 04:26

D R Hunter

Elegant rifle below, please share all details!!!:

29 December 2013, 06:59

J D

Several deer with my 9.3 my best was a nice ga 11 point. A good pig with my 470 and several smaller ones. a nice pig and cow elk with my 9.3 tika.

I tried like hell for a bear with my 9.3 in
Alaska August before last. I was a second away from dropping a big black bear when he took off. We were dead drift down the river, I just need to get a little closer to be sure of the shot. a wave took the cross hairs off the chest, as it was settling back down He bolted.

JD