On more than a few occasions have seen it ill advised to shoot solids?? in a double rifle. What kind of problems does this bring about??
Don't own a double yet, will in a few months hopefully, but just curious. My double will not be in DG caliber.

MFD,
If not shooting large, dangerous game, I would not see any reason for using solids to begin with.
If you do a search, here in the DR forum, you will find this subject debated at length. There are people here that have seen the damage of solids first hand...I have never used them in doubles, so my opinion is hear-say, but I will never use them in mine.
I'm sure that some of those here, that have seen the damage will jump in...
ND

Are you talking about Mono's or solids?
Mono's (solid copper)aren't reccomended because of possible barrel damage.

MFD:
For what it is worth, go to my website calpappas.com and look under double rifles to see two pages from my new book on the .600 nitro express and my shooting a .600 with the new Barnes banded solids. This would be a good place to begin your research. Feel free to email me if you'd like to discuss anything. pappas@mtaonline.net
Cheers,
Cal

Martin: The problem with the mono solids in a SXS rifle is the inability for the mono solids to compress (like a softer lead bullet would) when traveling down the barrel, & consequently expanding the circumference of the barrel, thus causing the soldered connection between the two barrels to break loose. Some makers like Butch Searcy says this is unlikely in most newer SXS rifles, but not impossible. Since there is a good selection of other solid bullets available than the monos, why take the risk in view of the high cost of a double rifle.

Frank,

What solids do you use???

Woodleigh and North Fork in my 450 No2.

Woodleigh in my 450/400 and my 9,3x74R.

The mono solids like Barnes are no good for doubles, but true driving band solids like the North Fork or GS Custom are fine for double, the shank never engraves, only the thin driving bands, which have plenty of room between them to accomodate displaced band material, unlike bullets similar to the Barnes.

ALL of the doubles safe driving band bullets, ie, NF and GS Custom, are copper. ALL of the unsafe bullets are brass. ALL of the safe bullets have closely spaced driving bands. ALL of the unsafe bullets have grooves widely saced, like the Barne.

I use and love the Woodleigh solids, and same with NF. I would rather shoot 20 NF's than one Woodleigh, as far as wear and tear on my rifle.

JPK

When I was in colledge our rifle team was on tour in the northeastern states. While staying in Connecticut we were invited to tour the Marlin factory. One thing that impressed me was watching the rifleing button push through the barrels. A large swell ran through the barrel that was very visable as the button pressed the rifleing into the barrel.

Any bullet would never cause that much swell and a good thing because the rib of a double would never hold up to it but I'm still amaezed at how much a rifle barrel can swell and spring back into shape. I just can't say that the rib would follow suit. I would'nt ever use a Barns monolithic solid in one of my double rifles.

I use Woodleigh, NorthFork, & have a few of the old Barnes solids that were made when Barnes offered the lead core solids. That's it ..... no new Barnes with the wide grooves.

Frank, OK, got the picture now. I had tried to invision just what took place upon firing the double and thought about the deforming/swelling of the barrel as the bullet travelled down the bore, but forgot about the soldering connection of the two barrels. As mentioned, I have no reason to use any solids/monos for the rifle I have in mind will be the lowly 308 and either Sierra or GCPB will be used. Thanks for all the responses.

martin

MFD, the best thing I can think of is simply do not use any mono-metal solid in your rifle that doesn't have properly cut pressure rings Like the North Fork, and GS custom. The so-called X-bullets have a solid shank with no pressure rings. These bullets don't seem to be as much of a problem in single barrel rifles as in double rifles. I see absolutely no reson to use solids of any type in your .308 double rifle, but the type lke the Woodliegh which has a compressable lead core are no problem.

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