Heym Jaeger

07 June 2013, 03:47

Clan_Colla

I shoot Heym Jaeger #1.
We have only been firing my loads thus far,no factory loads.
The rifle shoots superbly with my loads-
3 weights-480,405 & 325.
We will have some factory Hornady DGX loads in hand shortly to chrono.

07 June 2013, 06:22

Bill73

Thanks for the info.

07 June 2013, 07:08

new_guy

Hornady developed their loads to do 2150 from a 24" barrel. I would expect at least that from 26" tubes.

17 June 2013, 00:34

new_guy

This is clan colla's rifle.

17 June 2013, 02:39

Bill73

NICE!!!

17 June 2013, 03:09

BaxterB

I saw one at Reno and just loved it. Was a 450 and that's all I'd need...

17 June 2013, 05:29

N E 450 No2

Bill 73

If you look carefully you will see that the Jaeger has no cheek piece. I prefer a double rifle stock without a cheek piece, none of mine have one. I have handled the Heym Jaeger's and I really like the way they feel, and the way they look.

17 June 2013, 09:21

Nakihunter

Wow! That is a nice looking rifle!

17 June 2013, 12:59

ozhunter

Nice rifle.
How long is the for-end timber?

18 June 2013, 10:19

RyanB

I missed something. What is the Heym Jaeger?

18 June 2013, 11:16

ozhunter

quote:
Originally posted by RyanB:
I missed something. What is the Heym Jaeger?

The above rifle is the so called "Jaeger".
One of a limited range.

18 June 2013, 13:18

RyanB

Aside from the black receiver and no cheek piece how is it different from a PH and is it more or less expensive?

18 June 2013, 20:11

Double BC

No ejectors, no cheek piece( is built to customer size), only comes in 450ne 3 1/4, blued receiver. I think that's it.

19 June 2013, 08:06

Clan_Colla

quote:
Originally posted by Double BC:
Basically a PH with No ejectors, 26" hammer forged barrels no cheek piece( is built to customer size), Actually a straight Stock 14 5/8" only comes in 450 NE 3 1/4, blued receiver. I think that's it.

Intercepting sears, articulated front trigger, cocking indicators, Greener style cross-bolt, rib cut for Doctor Optic mount, regulated with Hornady ammunition

The gun pictured has upgraded wood

19 June 2013, 08:54

RyanB

What do they cost?

19 June 2013, 08:56

Double BC

quote:
Originally posted by Clan_Colla:
quote:
Originally posted by Double BC:
Basically a PH with No ejectors, 26" hammer forged barrels no cheek piece( is built to customer size), Actually a straight Stock 14 5/8" only comes in 450 NE 3 1/4, blued receiver. I think that's it.

Intercepting sears, articulated front trigger, cocking indicators, Greener style cross-bolt, rib cut for Doctor Optic mount, regulated with Hornady ammunition

The gun pictured has upgraded wood

Sorry for the delay.

The cost is what we targeted, and we kept the intercepting sears.

Here are the specs:
Cal: 450 NE
Barrels: 26"
LOP: 14&5/8" on this one (to fit on a new order)
Stock: Straight (no cheekpiece)
Extractors (Ejectors not available)
Intercepting Sears: Included
Barrel Length: 26"
Top Rib Cut for Docter/Trijicon (Red Dot) Mount
Cost: $13,000 (as projected)

I copied this from one of new guys posts to be accurate.Handled the gun in Reno along with all the rest. Tony has a good point about the cheek piece the straight stock is svelte. I like the red text...

21 June 2013, 06:47

TwoZero

To make the gun perfct for me...

Heym could give serious though to getting rid of the cocking indicators, and Greener style cross-bolt.

The cocking indicators fall into the interesting but not nessicary category.

And the Greener style cross-bolt is just not needed on doubles made with modern steels, shooting low pressure nitro-express cartridges.

Two manufacturing and machining complications removed would help to reduce the price of the gun.

But the removal of those two features might require a total re-design which would make things not so cheap after all...

So probably not in my lifetime.

.

22 June 2013, 00:01

N E 450 No2

The Jaeger is built to the same "Rifle" standards as all of Heyms doubles.

The fittine of the action, barrels and regulation is the same as other Heyms.

Two Zero, the cocking indicators let you know that the hammers ARE cocked. On a double with out this feature if something goes wrong, you will not know that the hammer was not cocked until you pull the trigger on that elephant, cape buff or lion at 5 yards...

Also even with modern steel the Greener Cross Bolt adds to the strength of the lockup, and resists the forces of firing that try to open the action.

If you shoot your double a lot, this helps the rifle stay "on the face" quite a bit longer.

02 July 2013, 17:52

Clan_Colla

quote:
Originally posted by ozhunter:
Nice rifle.
Sorry I missed this earlier, Yes she is quite a beauty, Thank you-
How long is the for-end timber?
about 9.75" along the top

02 July 2013, 23:08

MacD37

quote:
Originally posted by N E 450 No2:
Two Zero, the cocking indicators let you know that the hammers ARE cocked. On a double with out this feature if something goes wrong, you will not know that the hammer was not cocked until you pull the trigger on that elephant, cape buff or lion at 5 yards...

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One of the best use for the cocking indicators is, when it is getting dark a simple touch of the indicators will tell if you have the rifle cocked.

The jaeger rifle is a fine rifle, that is aimed at the PH as a customer. The rifle has all the mechanical features needed to make the rifle perfect for the PH, without all the bling that has nothing to do with the operational quality. The features inside the rifle are life savers!

10 July 2013, 09:12

dpcd

I will chime in here with Greener's own statement of his crossbolt; it does not come into play until the action is already overstressed with very high pressure loads. And that was with guns made from malleable iron or at best, low carbon steel. With modern alloys, the Greener crossbolt is like wearing suspenders with a belt; totally unnecessary. That is why very few, if any, modern DRs have it; don't need it no matter how much you shoot your rifle.
Get rid of it. I won't even post what I think of the need for cocking indicators. Ok, I will; if it is loaded, it is cocked. Maybe some need loaded chamber indicators instead. Now, if you have a Krieghoff, you have a really big cocking indicator built in.

10 July 2013, 23:22

Dave Bush

quote:
Originally posted by TwoZero:
To make the gun perfct for me...

Heym could give serious though to getting rid of the cocking indicators, and Greener style cross-bolt.

The cocking indicators fall into the interesting but not nessicary category.

And the Greener style cross-bolt is just not needed on doubles made with modern steels, shooting low pressure nitro-express cartridges.

Two manufacturing and machining complications removed would help to reduce the price of the gun.

But the removal of those two features might require a total re-design which would make things not so cheap after all...

So probably not in my lifetime.

.

TwoZero:

Please do not take offense but I really laughed when I read your post. What do the rifle manufactures have to do to make us buyers happy? Heym gave us a real "PH" model and a good price and now guys want it to be even cheaper. The Jaeger puts the Heym right in the Krieghoff price range. If this gun with upgraded wood came in at $13,000, it's a great buy on a very solid gun. Just my two cents.

P.S. We Krieghoff owners don't have to worry about cocking indicators or snap caps

Dave
DRSS
Chapuis 9.3X74
Chapuis "Jungle" .375 FL
Krieghoff 500/.416 NE
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