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27 September 2012, 19:57
bobgrow
H4350 in 500NE
Does anyone have experience using H4350 with 570gr CEB BBW 13 solids in their 500NE?
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Bob

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09 October 2012, 09:12
6.5 Wildcatter
Sent you a PM with some load data that has worked well in my 500 NE 3" Krieghoff.
09 October 2012, 17:40
ledvm
While the 4350's are a traditional powder for the .500 NE...most recent testing especially with CEB's & NF's reveals R-15 to be the better choice. 97 gr of R-15 being max...start at 93gr and work up.

When I tried the various 4350's in my .500 they were always subpar to R-15.

FWIW


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A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House

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09 October 2012, 18:03
Dutch44
I'll second ledvm's findings. My loads in IMR 4350 did not regulate as well as RL 15 and were shooting to a different point of aim. I found 95 grains of RL 15 with backer-rod filler perfect for my double. Hornady factory also gave 1 inch goups at 50 yards but they were 1 1/2 higher than the RL 15 rounds.


Dutch
09 October 2012, 18:22
bobgrow
Lane...yes, I had followed Michael and Sam's work using RL15 and I had tried to get my Heym to regulate but with no success...tight barrel clusters with horizontal spreads of 3.5-4.0" using 93-97 gr.
That's why I'm looking at H4350.

An interesting finding...the rifle regulates well with factory DGS loads, and that powder appears to be a bulk H4350 at 104 gr. Velocity at 2120 fps.
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09 October 2012, 19:56
srose
Bob,

Everybody holds guns differently and some loads may shoot great and some may not. A load with WW760 that shot great for Michael spread for me about the same as your loads are doing. I had to switch powders to get it to shoot for me. Michael holds a gun like a gorilla and I shoot one relaxed. I had to reduce recoil to bring barrels together. Velocities were pretty close with both loads. Now if you have a load like the Hornady that regulates you are right in trying to match that load. In my 500 the Hornady factory loads were only going 1991 fps. Your barrel may be tighter thus giving you higher pressures and velocity. Different bullet may have more or less velocity and recoil. Just because the barrels are apart doesn't mean you still have to speed them up. Try your H4350 and see what happens or try some of the other powders Michael and I used in the 500 New Exploration. All that data is on the B&M site.

Sam
09 October 2012, 21:03
ledvm
Hi Bob,

I do have data from my .500 with H 4350. As soon as I get to my shop again...I'll post it for you.

I would also try the WW760 as it did well for Michael .458.


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J. Lane Easter, DVM

A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House

No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991.
12 October 2012, 23:57
bobgrow
Lane...looking forward to your data.
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12 October 2012, 23:58
srose
Bob,

You should be able to use any IMR4350 data to get started.

Sam
13 October 2012, 18:11
ledvm
With CEB 570 gr solids seated crimped just under the top band, Jameson Brass, and Fed 215 primers...I found 106 gr of H-4350 was probably max for my rifle and probably the best load with the powder although it did not regulate well...and kicked much sharper than R-15 as well.


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J. Lane Easter, DVM

A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House

No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991.
13 October 2012, 18:20
bobgrow
Thanks Sam and Lane.


Bob

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