quote:

Originally posted by Mike70560:
This is almost too funny. Read what I wrote.

The safety is coming off as the rifle is being raised to my shoulder.

Which is what happened in the video.

You cock the gun before you ever begin to shoulder it, your video speaks for itself. Sometimes it's best to just stop digging.

Mike,
Well at least were both Lefties eh? I cant tell in the video, is your cheekpiece on the correct side?

Cheekpiece is left hand, triggers nad barrels are set up like a right hand gun. No big deal it is what I learned on.

Nganga,

That is one hell of a nice trophy room in the other thread.

Cane rat,

Splitting hairs, at 12 seconds in the video I push the safety as I am coming up with the rifle, should not even have responded, but could not help myself.


Hijack of thread is now complete, Larryshores would not pay a ransom, signing off.

Thats the same as mine. And thank you for the kind words on the trophy room, Its been a lifetime's adventures.

Nganga

I am surprised at how much debate a simple question genrated. Let me ask another. What other doubles would generate less recoil than a Merkel?

Krieghoff.

Any others?

I had a Heym. It whacked me pretty good.

Since I wouldnt want anyone to hunt with an unsafe weapon and take a chance of getting hurt I will take thses unsafe weapons off your hands. I will even be so kind as to split your loss with you and give you 50 cents on the dollar. That way we equally share the value loss.

quote:

Originally posted by Mike Smith:
Since I wouldnt want anyone to hunt with an unsafe weapon and take a chance of getting hurt I will take thses unsafe weapons off your hands. I will even be so kind as to split your loss with you and give you 50 cents on the dollar. That way we equally share the value loss.

I'm married, I like pain, I will hold on to mine.

I was quite impressed with my mates Merkel 470 the other week.
Might have to get another one?

quote:

Originally posted by Cane Rat:



Actually, I have observed your actions.

This video that you posted previously over on the African Hunting Forum seems to contradict what you just posted above. Obviously you are mistaken as your cocking of the rifle before you ever shoulder it is plainly visible.

http://s135.photobucket.com/al...70Nitro200-09-19.flv

Cane Rat I don't think the film contradicts what Mike said at all! The forst two shots the rifle IS cocked before he takes it to his shoulder. Here he has his eyes on the target and cocks the rifle bofore he mounts the rifle as most would do after just loading the rifle that will soon be timed for a re-loading for shots three and four. After the reload the rifle is already cocked so no need for a re-cock on the way to the shoulder just as Mike claims.

Even with regular safeties This is the way I cock a double rifle. Once the target is found, and it is decided to be taken I too cock the rifle before shouldering, and on shots three and four there is no need to cock the rifle again, because just like the regular manual safety, the K-gun is already in the fire position, for all subsiquent shots.

I simply don't see the problem here. I do however see a problem with the Blaser, because it must be re-cocked every time the action is opened. I see no problem with cocking the K-gun at or about waist level as you start up with the rifle for the first two. If you are looking at a target you want to shoot, nobody is going to be between you and the target so what is the porblem with cocking the rifle on the up take?

quote:

Originally posted by larryshores:
I am surprised at how much debate a simple question genrated. Let me ask another. What other doubles would generate less recoil than a Merkel?

I have fired only two 500 doubles. The first was K-gun and found the recoil reasonable.

The second was a California Rigby that was a joy to shoot. Recoil felt no more than my 470.

It was also a beautiful rifle and seemed to be well made.

quote:

Originally posted by larryshores:
Any others?

I had a Heym. It whacked me pretty good.

A bespoke rifle that fits you well, so felt recoil is diminished. A gun that is heavy for calibre diminishing the recoil itself. OR.....A bespoke rifle that fits you well and is heavy for calibre diminishing both actual and felt recoil. It's easy to find a pre war British rifle that is heavy for calibre in something like 450/400 or one of the various 450s if you're up to it. They have wonderful tang safeties in your choice of automatic or manual and craftsmanship that is rarely if ever repeated these days. Such rifle would start at around 18-20k. That's reasonably close to the cost of a new Heym. Just a thought.

Brett

PS. What calibre were you shooting before?

500 NE.

I held the thing like I would pretty much any other rifle. I had shot a 470 NE several times. I had shot a 458 WM countless times. When I pulled that trigger on the 500, I got the shock of my life. It whacked me so hard across the knuckle that it dislocated the middle finger on my shooting hand.

I held it different after that.

I took it to TZ and found it useless in the environment. I only took it our of the case at night. I kept it loaded by the bed.

I came back and sold it to BigBBear.

Here are some English prewar rifles for under 25k.

Some food for thought .450/400s:

http://www.westleyrichards.com...product.php?id=26180

http://www.westleyrichards.com...product.php?id=26132

At 11 lbs. this should be great:
http://www.champlinarms.com/De...StyleID=3&GunID=1612

http://www.champlinarms.com/De...StyleID=3&GunID=1853

http://www.champlinarms.com/De...StyleID=3&GunID=1627

http://www.champlinarms.com/De...StyleID=3&GunID=1679

http://www.champlinarms.com/De...StyleID=3&GunID=1624

Another at 11 lbs.
http://www.gunsinternational.c...cfm?gun_id=100116723

More food...more thought .450s:

http://www.westleyrichards.com...product.php?id=26181

Larry:

I worry about your Rifles Inc 416 sitting in the gun safe gathering dust. If it needs a new home, call me.

Also, you going to shoot the irons?

Will:

That 416 is my favorite rifle. It is a real shooter.

If I do the double , I am worried about the iron sights. Especially with my aging eyes.