After a disappointing first start with the Remington/Baikal, I loaded up the gun, bullets, targets, and tools for another trip to the range. Had both the factory 300's and the 405's agian, and was going to shoot them all up and get brass for reloading. Decided to try 20/40/60 yards as that is what I originally wanted - a bear over bait, or pig under the feeder gun. Remember this target from last time?



Tried the 405s first with a center of target hold so itimpacted a little higher, and they duplicated the first efforts. Pretty much side by side. Adjusted the wheel one space (didn't feel too tight or much pressure on it), and tried again - they actually came closer together, and got better. Tried the 300's and they started to group also, kinda ragged 4" group in the center! Adjusted one more space on the wheel, and the wheel started to feel like it had good contact, and was actually under good pressure all the time. Shot both loads again, and they grouped into a fist-sized patern for all, some even touching or into each other.

Moved out to 40 yards, and used my last 405's for this target.



Jeez, can't complain about that at all! Didn't have any more of them so couldn't move back to 60 yards. Switched to the 300's 'cause I had a bunch of those. This is what I ended up with then. My jaw dropped, because this gun was now shooting as good as I can with open sights!!!



Went out to 60 yards with the last of the 300's and the barrels appear to have crossed and started to spread out some. Part of the problem is the crappy post sight and horrible triggers.

I think it can still be tweaked a bit, and it is sure cheaper than the 450/400 to shoot all afternoon! Look out deer and bears next week.

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Congratulations!! Looks like you are there. I am eagerly awaiting mine, hope it does as well as yours.

Jerry

Looks great! I found the same thing, the rifles are accurate and once you get the regulation down, life is good. I haven't shot factory stuff though. I've got some Hornady 350's I'm about to try.

An easy fix for the front sight is to thread some rod and file/mill a blade.

Mike

Hope to get mine to the range today. Will report.

I have one on the way. Does anyone know if the Hornady Leverrevolution rounds are safe in this gun?
thanks
Rick

Just curious,

Has anyone tried using laser bore sighters to regulate the barrels?

Roger QSL

How would you know how much the barrels are to cross then?

The only way to regulate a double is to shoot it,

Best regards Chris

foxhound,

I called Hornady and the tech guy said they are safe in a trapdoor and therefore would be safe in doubles. I shot some but they were all over the place.

Nitro450exp

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Originally posted by Husqvarna M98:
How would you know how much the barrels are to cross then?

The only way to regulate a double is to shoot it,

Best regards Chris

Chris,

I was just wondering if the barrels could be mechanically brought together with the jack screw, without having to go through a lot of ammo.
If the barrels could be regulated this way, maybe a little silver soldering could be done to solidify the work done by the jack screw..
I guess, only a gun smith would be able to accomplish this.
Solid welds would hold the points of impact, forever, and not have them shift with vibration effecting the jack screw..

Thanks for your post,

Roger QSL

Roger,

I gave some thought to that too. I've been shooting both my '06 and 45-70 quite a bit lately, sometimes with some pretty hefty loads, and so far no change. They've both been holding whatever adjustment I had last made. Having taken them apart and looked over the jack screw, I don't think it can move on it's own, even with painful recoil. I did, however, make a cover for the slot to keep anything/anyone from turning the screw.

I guess I answered your second question first. I did not have any problem adjusting the point of impact easily with both guns. My 45-70 did require that I looseten up the muzzle cap to get the necessary movement, but after that it took very little shooting. The '06 was a piece of cake. If you have a propane tourch you could easily do the work, silver solder, yourself. Brownells, and several others, sell a low silver content solder that will hold very well. That's what I actually used on one of the rib mounts on the 45-70. I didn't want to use the real silver solder because of the thin ribs and thought I might have some problems. It is holding well and am sure that it would hold the jack screw.

I'm going to leave mine free because I keep playing with different loads. I'm having a blast shooting the darn thing. Just fired ten rounds standing at fifty yards and got about five inch group. I'm sure it was me because when I use a rest it's sub two inches. For those that are interested, the ten I shot today were Hornady 350's with 47 grains of Rel 7 that did 1740 fps.

Mike

Mike,

It appears you are having very good results with your doubles..

You are probably correct, as to not soldering the jack screw..This would surely not allow any adjustments with load changes..

Keep us posted with your future load development..

Thanks,

Roger QSL

Has anybody tried Marlin/Win86 pressure reloads with this double? Like the Elmer Keith elk load of 53 gr of 3031 behind a 405 gr?

Mr. JudgeOC
Could I ask for the specifics of your Hornady load? I am brand new to reloading, and just got in the Hornadys and the Rel 7 and a Lee Classic loader and an SPR 22 in 45-70. What kind of brass and primer, and any idea as to the pressure? Sorry if these questions are ignorant, but I have been looking for an excuse to start reloading for many years, and this is it. When I get a little more comfortable, then I will start asking questions about cast bullets.(already do my own for blackpowder).... I just prefer to ask rather than blow my face off to start. I am looking for a load that will thump deer, and do the job on moose when and if I ever pull a tag again.
thanks
Rick