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Only double I ever shot is my Chapuis 9,3. It weighs about 7.5 pounds and doesnt have a recoil pad. Recoil is brisk but I can shoot it well and am not bothered by it other than a puffy cheek at the end of the day. Searcy quotes a weight of 9.5-10 pounds for the 450/400 and 10-10.5 pounds for the 450. How would either of these calibers compare recoil wise to my 9,3?. Oh, and before you guys get started this is not a debate as to which caliber is better, lol. My biggest fear is when I die my wife will sell my guns for what I told her they cost. | ||
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I think the recoil is going to be close to the 9.3, look at a recoil calculator it will give you a general comparison idea. "An individual with experience is never at the mercies of an individual with an argument" | |||
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Dirk, you think both the 450/400 and the 450 will be similar to my Chapuis? My biggest fear is when I die my wife will sell my guns for what I told her they cost. | |||
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Yes they felt very close in recoil comparison, I had a Chapuis in 9.3 at 7.5 lbs and it's recoil felt the same as my 10 lb 458wm. Recoil calculator says different but the recoil velocity is a big factor and it's less with a straight walled big bore case. For me, and not for every shooter the straighter stocked bolt rifle has less felt recoil than my double. Recoil calculator results: 7.5 lb 9.3 has 26 ft. lbs of recoil 10 lb 450/400 has 36 ft lbs of recoil 10.5 lb 450N.E. has 37 ft lbs of recoil "An individual with experience is never at the mercies of an individual with an argument" | |||
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Snowwolfe: I've shot a number of the Chapuis 9.3s. They're light for caliber, and can sting a bit at the end of the day. A 10 lb .400 has more recoil, but of a different character. More of a shove than a smack. More pleasant to shoot than the .450s at a normal weight of around 10.75 lbs. --------------------------------- "Serious rifles have two barrels, everything else just burns gunpowder." | |||
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I have a VC/Demas 450/400 and a Searcy 450 3.25". The weight on the Demas is about 1# lighter....I can tell you for a fact the 450 boots you harder than the 450/400. Gary DRSS NRA Lifer SCI DSC | |||
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No surprise here. The .458 450NE is often firing a 480 grainer compared to the 400 grainer of a 450/400. 20% heavier for the 450. I'll guess the powder charge is greater for the 450 too. Even with a slightly heavier rifle the 450 hits the shooter more severely. For your non ELEPHANT and non RHINO needs, the 450/400 is the heaviest you could need IMO. Jack OH GOD! {Seriously, we need the help.} | |||
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Recoil calculator results: 7.5 lb 9.3 has 26 ft. lbs of recoil 10 lb 450/400 has 36 ft lbs of recoil 10.5 lb 450N.E. has 37 ft lbs of recoil[/QUOTE] What would the recoil calculator say for a 9 pound 450/400?? Go Duke!! | |||
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A typical 7 lb. 9.3x74R will be about 38 ft-lbs of recoil energy and 19 fps recoil velocity. About the same for a 9 lb. 450/400 and a really, really heavy 458/450/etc!! ------------------------------- Will Stewart / Once you've been amongst them, there is no such thing as too much gun. --------------------------------------- and, God Bless John Wayne. NRA Benefactor Member, GOA, N.A.G.R. _________________________ "Elephant and Elephant Guns" $99 shipped “Hunting Africa's Dangerous Game" $20 shipped. red.dirt.elephant@gmail.com _________________________ Hoping to wind up where elephant hunters go. | |||
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Agree.....450/400 is PLENTY of double for anyone who isn't hunting elephants exclusively and is plenty for a cool cucumber under fire. The 450/400 is about a perfect cartridge for the MAJORITY of double users as there is...IMO. Gary DRSS NRA Lifer SCI DSC | |||
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I have owned and shot both extensively. While the 450-400 was less in recoil the 450 3 1/4 was more comfortable to shoot than my Citori 20 bore with 3 inch shells. Shot both original Kynoch and RL 15 loads. Nice big push. Fun, too! Dutch | |||
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I have a 450 No2, and a 450/400 3 1/4". I find the 450/400 to have a fair amount less recoil. It is most apparent when testing loads or "plinking". When shooting at game I do not notice the recoil of either one of them. DOUBLE RIFLE SHOOTERS SOCIETY | |||
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Keep the comments coming  Am leaning towards the 450 unless it knocks my socks off.My biggest fear is when I die my wife will sell my guns for what I told her they cost. | |||
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Use some rubber bands to keep them up! NRA Life ASSRA Life DRSS Today's Quote: Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Give a man a welfare check, a free cell phone with free monthly minutes, food stamps, section 8 housing, a forty ounce malt liquor, a crack pipe and some Air Jordan's and he votes Democrat for a lifetime. | |||
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Agree 100%. Neither gives me a headache....but the 450/400 does kick noticeably less. On game....neither is felt. Gary DRSS NRA Lifer SCI DSC | |||
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Mike and I hit the range tonight with his new 450 shooting the Hornady factory solids. Rifle absolutely recoiled more than my Chapuis and that was to be expected but it was not really unpleasant. Even though Mike's rifle had a right handed stock and I am a lefty I would put the recoil somewhere between a stiff 375H&H and a mild 458 WM. Maybe the 450/400 really is a ladies rifle Would like to thank Mike for giving me the opportunity to shoot his 450. My biggest fear is when I die my wife will sell my guns for what I told her they cost. | |||
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