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Aim Point for a Double?
07 June 2009, 06:38
375JohnAim Point for a Double?
I have been reading Boddingtons book “Safari Rifles II”. I his book he talks about using an Aim Point as an option for double rifle scopes (page 344). Has anyone tried this option?
I’m currently shooting a Heym 470 NE that has a Schmidt Bender scope with claw mounts. I have an elephant and Buff hunt scheduled for next year and I would like to try it before I step in front of 7 tons!
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I just got an Aimpoint micro and I am very impressed with it. It is feather light and I don't think that it would affect regulation in any way. I really think that it would be a great ideal....
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07 June 2009, 08:19
N E 450 No2On a hunting rifle, esecially a double I prefer the Doctor Optic.
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08 June 2009, 21:38
Judge JerryWhat are you using for a quick detach base/mount for the Aimpoint Micro H-1?
I have a Merkle 140-2.1.
Thanks, welcome any input anyone might have.
Jerry
10 June 2009, 03:10
new_guyWe’ve just finished a mount that will accommodate Trijicon’s new RMR sight
or the Docter.
It’s available as a factory option, or can be retro-fit to your existing rifle.
This is a prototype photo.
We’ll have the completed production model at the end of the month.
10 June 2009, 10:33
N E 450 No2That looks very good.
As to the accuracy of the Doctor Optic...
At 100 yards with my 308 R 93 I can shoots groups @1.5 inches on a regular basis.
Aleko shooting my R 93 shot a 4 shot group well under one inch.
On an M1-A I was able to make rapid fire shots with 100% hits at 300 yards on a metal target smaller than the chest of a skinny man.
If you have a problem with iron sights because of your eyes, THIS is the way to go.
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10 June 2009, 20:01
tiggertateI see that Trjicon offers Docter Optics products on their web site. Are they owned by the same folks and can one assume the two products are about the same quality? I have seen Rusty's Burris and frankly, all three look like they came from the same manufacturer with minor appearance differences for product differentiation.
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10 June 2009, 23:44
new_guyDocter and Trijicon are two different companies. Trijicon is a distributor for Docter here in the US.
The footprint (for mounting) the RMR is slightly different than the Docter.
11 June 2009, 05:19
BigFiveJackCAN IT BE DETERMINED WHICH OF THE THREE IS
THE BEST PRODUCT AND WHICH IS THE WORST?

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11 June 2009, 17:31
tiggertateI bet functionally it would be hard to tell. Docter and Trijicon sell great stuff but so can Burris. The Burris is a couple hundred bucks cheaper. The Docter's price probably suffers from the weak dollar right now. But in the scale of things, none of them are really very expensive.
I'd like the Trijicon's fiber optic model (as shown above, it uses a passive light-gathering fiber optic instead of batteries) for hunting. I've had a few batteries and/or electronics crap out at a bad time on other devices. But they offer the same sight with batteries only.
Also, these devices are supposed to operate as long as 5-6 years between battery changes. Most people will have a hard time remembering that long. I'd change it out every season whether it was needed or not, just to avoid that problem. Batteries are cheap.
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11 June 2009, 17:51
Philip A.It seems that Zeiss has seen the light, and come up with their own version...
Check here:
http://www.zeiss.com/C1256A770...031D55A?OpenDocumentless than 4 MOA dot, and Zeiss being Zeiss, the thingy should be expected to be good. Hope to have a glimpse at one in Europe in a few weeks.
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12 June 2009, 06:37
lavacaNew Guy,
They make that mount for a Merkel?
12 June 2009, 07:17
new_guyquote:
Originally posted by lavaca:
New Guy,
They make that mount for a Merkel?
We developed this mount with Recknagel in Germany specifically for our rifles, but it might be made to work on a Merkel. Unfortunately, I don't have a Merkel here to measure.
14 June 2009, 08:05
BigBBearChris, does the mount fit into the existinng rear sight dovetail or does it need to be machined out at another place on the rib. If just inserted into the rear sight slot I really like the idea. I am a bit opposed to removing metal.
Thanks,
Larry
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14 June 2009, 08:10
new_guyquote:
Originally posted by BigBBear:
Chris, does the mount fit into the existinng rear sight dovetail or does it need to be machined out at another place on the rib.
Thanks,
Larry
The mounting location for the sight base is machined into the rib, behind the rear sight. Goes on/ comes off with one large nut. The nut isn't pretty, but it's very functional.
Metal removal is minimal to the rifle. Actually, unless you know what you're looking for, you can't really tell that there are any cuts there. That was a very important objective for us - we didn't want the mounting system to alter the looks of the rifle. This was the least intrusive way to do that.
I'll have some better photos for you in a week or two.
14 June 2009, 09:15
AntlersChris, does the location preclude the normal placement of claw mounts?
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14 June 2009, 10:05
N E 450 No2If you have claw mounts you can get a mount for the D O that fits the rear claw mount.
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14 June 2009, 10:21
Antlersquote:
Originally posted by N E 450 No2:
If you have claw mounts you can get a mount for the D O that fits the rear claw mount.
From whom?
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14 June 2009, 22:10
N E 450 No2Antlers
From Ernst Apel.
Go to
www.eaw.deI think a perfect set up would be a 450/400, with a 1 to 4 or 1 to 6 x24mm scoe in claw mounts, with a Doctor Optic, in a claw base as well.
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15 June 2009, 00:20
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15 June 2009, 01:11
AntlersTony and Mike, thanks for the links!
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15 June 2009, 02:07
new_guyquote:
Originally posted by Antlers:
Chris, does the location preclude the normal placement of claw mounts?
Negative. That was another consideration with this mount.
You can have 1) open sights 2) claw mounts 3) this "dot sight" mount all on the same rifle.
I am having a double rifle built and one of the options is dovetailing for Talley rings rather than claw mounts. I want to be able to have a couple of options for this rifle and the red dot idea is very intriguing. Could a base be made to fit the rear Talley dove tail? If so that would allow for a scope as well as Iron and Red Dot sights to accompany this rifle. A system for all reasons!
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17 March 2012, 06:45
2Barrelsquote:
Originally posted by new_guy:
We’ve just finished a mount that will accommodate Trijicon’s new RMR sight
This is a prototype photo.
We’ll have the completed production model at the end of the month.
Assuming that production is complete, what is/are the P/Ns for the Trijicon or Docter mount as shown?