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Hey Chris, with your frame by frame time measure, can you compare four of your shots to the four from Monty on the video of the 404Jeff bolt? Antlers Double Rifle Shooters Society Heym 450/400 3" | |||
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Not a fair question.  ------------------------------- Will / Once you've been amongst them, there is no such thing as too much gun. --------------------------------------- and, God Bless John Wayne. NRA Benefactor, GOA, NAGR _________________________ "Elephant and Elephant Guns" $99 shipped. “Hunting Africa's Dangerous Game" $20 shipped. red.dirt.elephant@gmail.com _________________________ If anything be of note, let it be he was once an elephant hunter, hoping to wind up where elephant hunters go. | |||
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 What part is not fair?Antlers Double Rifle Shooters Society Heym 450/400 3" | |||
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What do you think? One has to be nice, and sensitive, to double rifle shooters, also sometimes referred to as 4-shot challanged, because, as seen in the video, Monty is blazing off 4 rounds with his bolt rifle a lot faster than his double. ------------------------------- Will / Once you've been amongst them, there is no such thing as too much gun. --------------------------------------- and, God Bless John Wayne. NRA Benefactor, GOA, NAGR _________________________ "Elephant and Elephant Guns" $99 shipped. “Hunting Africa's Dangerous Game" $20 shipped. red.dirt.elephant@gmail.com _________________________ If anything be of note, let it be he was once an elephant hunter, hoping to wind up where elephant hunters go. | |||
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Tim - Monty is obviously much faster in the bolt gun video, but he's put a lot more practice into mastering one. I've not seen anyone else come close to him. That's a 404 he's shooting in the video. | |||
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Monty was trying a diff loading technique, don't know if this was pointed out. He is not slow with a double either and now that he owns one he's getting faster. | |||
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Well, at least with some of them. For example, it is no longer PC to use the term "retard" for people who cannot master two triggers. Instead, we must use the more acceptable and sensitive term "trigger impaired". SCI Life Member DSC Life Member | |||
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Chris, I wasn't being sarcastic at all; I judged Monty on the bolt to be faster, but wasn't sure how much faster - you were pretty darn fast. Antlers Double Rifle Shooters Society Heym 450/400 3" | |||
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Trigger impaired? The issue at hand here is not whether I am trigger impaired or a moron or just a plain old retard, but that you are the designated AR wit, and as such, it is imperative that you keep up to your previous work standards and image in the forums. Trigger impaired? Just not up to snuff with your regular work. At least if I am referred to as a retard, I would like to laugh at the same time. Would you please give it another shot? ------------------------------- Will / Once you've been amongst them, there is no such thing as too much gun. --------------------------------------- and, God Bless John Wayne. NRA Benefactor, GOA, NAGR _________________________ "Elephant and Elephant Guns" $99 shipped. “Hunting Africa's Dangerous Game" $20 shipped. red.dirt.elephant@gmail.com _________________________ If anything be of note, let it be he was once an elephant hunter, hoping to wind up where elephant hunters go. | |||
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Antlers, don't get offended. We all know Will walks on water. 577NitroExpress Double Rifle Shooters Society Francotte .470 Nitro Express  If stupidity hurt, a lot of people would be walking around screaming... | |||
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Paul, I wasn't offended by Will, I was just confused - that seems to happen alot. Antlers Double Rifle Shooters Society Heym 450/400 3" | |||
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Behind Ray, Will is the smartest most experienced sum bitch on this forum just ask him! Hell anybody with nearly 7,000 posts has got to be a smart sum bitch just think how much time he spends on the net. And we all know the net makes you one smart sum bitch!  | |||
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OK! Who declared an open season on Will?  465H&H | |||
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He pretty much does it to himself.  | |||
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So tempting..... SCI Life Member DSC Life Member | |||
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Don't worry. I didn't read it that way. btw I left you a vm yesterday and will be back in the office on tuesday. let's catch up then. | |||
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I got your vm while in an airport somewhere Friday; we're on for Tuesday. Antlers Double Rifle Shooters Society Heym 450/400 3" | |||
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Reloading a double sure comes at hand - sometimes - however lets not forget about keeping up the appearances - reloading a double in a hurry sure takes away the majority of "cool factor" , gun bearer with a second rifle at hand would look much "cooler" . | |||
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And faster. ------------------------------- Will / Once you've been amongst them, there is no such thing as too much gun. --------------------------------------- and, God Bless John Wayne. NRA Benefactor, GOA, NAGR _________________________ "Elephant and Elephant Guns" $99 shipped. “Hunting Africa's Dangerous Game" $20 shipped. red.dirt.elephant@gmail.com _________________________ If anything be of note, let it be he was once an elephant hunter, hoping to wind up where elephant hunters go. | |||
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It is only faster to use a second gun carried by a gun bearer if you can run fast enough to catch up with him! 465H&H | |||
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That was my first thought!  ....Mac >>>===(x)===> MacD37, ...and DUGABOY1 DRSS Charter member "If I die today, I've had a life well spent, for I've been to see the Elephant, and smelled the smoke of Africa!"~ME 1982 Hands of Old Elmer Keith  | |||
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I have taken a different approach. I load only as fast as I can be sure of getting it done and that is not real fast..I do not get in a hurry, I calmly just reload the rifle.. I opt for good shooting over fast reloading..If I have shot both barrels and the animal is still coming at me then I prefer to hold my 2 shots until I know I can put the bullet right where it needs to be and that is in the brain. so far so good... Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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Now! That's quick! What kind of ammo holder was he useing, it's not visible in the video! ....Mac >>>===(x)===> MacD37, ...and DUGABOY1 DRSS Charter member "If I die today, I've had a life well spent, for I've been to see the Elephant, and smelled the smoke of Africa!"~ME 1982 Hands of Old Elmer Keith | |||
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Quick(er)! ------------------------------- Will / Once you've been amongst them, there is no such thing as too much gun. --------------------------------------- and, God Bless John Wayne. NRA Benefactor, GOA, NAGR _________________________ "Elephant and Elephant Guns" $99 shipped. “Hunting Africa's Dangerous Game" $20 shipped. red.dirt.elephant@gmail.com _________________________ If anything be of note, let it be he was once an elephant hunter, hoping to wind up where elephant hunters go. | |||
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if real "FIREPOWER" is needed or desired why not just trade in your old break open double for the new BOLT ACTION DOUBLE RIFLE. 6 shots as fast as you can work the bolt and you can even keep that rifle ON YOUR SHOULDER and AIMED AT THE GAME during reloads. something you can't do with a double very well. whats's the answer ? what yo daddy always told you. MAKE THE FIRST SHOT COUNT. | |||
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for you guys who have bolt & run gunbearers there is an easy way to eliminate that problem. have the ph tell him in his native language if he breaks and runs when the action starts the first barrel goes to the game , and the second goes to him. he can understand that. i never had any of my gunbearers run off. they were instructed to drop into a squat at the moment i took the rifle off their sholder. | |||
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