Hey Chris, with your frame by frame time measure, can you compare four of your shots to the four from Monty on the video of the 404Jeff bolt?

Not a fair question.

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Originally posted by Will:
Not a fair question.

What part is not fair?

What do you think?

One has to be nice, and sensitive, to double rifle shooters, also sometimes referred to as 4-shot challanged, because, as seen in the video, Monty is blazing off 4 rounds with his bolt rifle a lot faster than his double.

Tim - Monty is obviously much faster in the bolt gun video, but he's put a lot more practice into mastering one. I've not seen anyone else come close to him. That's a 404 he's shooting in the video.

Monty was trying a diff loading technique, don't know if this was pointed out. He is not slow with a double either and now that he owns one he's getting faster.

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Originally posted by Will:
What do you think?

One has to be nice, and sensitive, to double rifle shooters, also sometimes referred to as 4-shot challanged,...

Well, at least with some of them. For example, it is no longer PC to use the term "retard" for people who cannot master two triggers. Instead, we must use the more acceptable and sensitive term "trigger impaired".

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Originally posted by new_guy:
Tim - Monty is obviously much faster in the bolt gun video, but he's put a lot more practice into mastering one. I've not seen anyone else come close to him. That's a 404 he's shooting in the video.

Chris, I wasn't being sarcastic at all; I judged Monty on the bolt to be faster, but wasn't sure how much faster - you were pretty darn fast.

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Originally posted by Jim Manion:

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Originally posted by Will:
What do you think?

One has to be nice, and sensitive, to double rifle shooters, also sometimes referred to as 4-shot challanged,...

Well, at least with some of them. For example, it is no longer PC to use the term "retard" for people who cannot master two triggers. Instead, we must use the more acceptable and sensitive term "trigger impaired".

Trigger impaired?

The issue at hand here is not whether I am trigger impaired or a moron or just a plain old retard, but that you are the designated AR wit, and as such, it is imperative that you keep up to your previous work standards and image in the forums.

Trigger impaired? Just not up to snuff with your regular work. At least if I am referred to as a retard, I would like to laugh at the same time.

Would you please give it another shot?

Antlers, don't get offended. We all know Will walks on water.

Paul, I wasn't offended by Will, I was just confused - that seems to happen alot.

Behind Ray, Will is the smartest most experienced sum bitch on this forum just ask him!

Hell anybody with nearly 7,000 posts has got to be a smart sum bitch just think how much time he spends on the net. And we all know the net makes you one smart sum bitch!

OK! Who declared an open season on Will?

465H&H

He pretty much does it to himself.

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Originally posted by Will:
At least if I am referred to as a retard, I would like to laugh at the same time.

So tempting.....

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Originally posted by Antlers:
Chris, I wasn't being sarcastic at all; I judged Monty on the bolt to be faster, but wasn't sure how much faster - you were pretty darn fast.

Don't worry. I didn't read it that way. btw I left you a vm yesterday and will be back in the office on tuesday. let's catch up then.

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btw I left you a vm yesterday and will be back in the office on tuesday. let's catch up then.

I got your vm while in an airport somewhere Friday; we're on for Tuesday.

Reloading a double sure comes at hand - sometimes - however lets not forget about keeping up the appearances - reloading a double in a hurry sure takes away the majority of "cool factor" , gun bearer with a second rifle at hand would look much "cooler" .

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Originally posted by mouse93:
Reloading a double sure comes at hand - sometimes - however lets not forget about keeping up the appearances - reloading a double in a hurry sure takes away the majority of "cool factor" , gun bearer with a second rifle at hand would look much "cooler" .

And faster.

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Originally posted by Will:

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Originally posted by mouse93:
Reloading a double sure comes at hand - sometimes - however lets not forget about keeping up the appearances - reloading a double in a hurry sure takes away the majority of "cool factor" , gun bearer with a second rifle at hand would look much "cooler" .

And faster.

It is only faster to use a second gun carried by a gun bearer if you can run fast enough to catch up with him!

465H&H

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Originally posted by 465H&H:

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Originally posted by Will:

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Originally posted by mouse93:
Reloading a double sure comes at hand - sometimes - however lets not forget about keeping up the appearances - reloading a double in a hurry sure takes away the majority of "cool factor" , gun bearer with a second rifle at hand would look much "cooler" .

And faster.

It is only faster to use a second gun carried by a gun bearer if you can run fast enough to catch up with him!

465H&H

That was my first thought!

I have taken a different approach. I load only as fast as I can be sure of getting it done and that is not real fast..I do not get in a hurry, I calmly just reload the rifle..

I opt for good shooting over fast reloading..If I have shot both barrels and the animal is still coming at me then I prefer to hold my 2 shots until I know I can put the bullet right where it needs to be and that is in the brain. so far so good...

Here's a video of Monty loading with the "from the shoulder" method.

VIDEO 4

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Originally posted by new_guy:
Here's a video of Monty loading with the "from the shoulder" method.

VIDEO 4

Now! That's quick! What kind of ammo holder was he useing, it's not visible in the video!

Quick(er)!

if real "FIREPOWER" is needed or desired why not just trade in your old break open double for the new
BOLT ACTION DOUBLE RIFLE.

6 shots as fast as you can work the bolt

and you can even keep that rifle ON YOUR SHOULDER and AIMED AT THE GAME during reloads. something you can't do with a double very well.

whats's the answer ? what yo daddy always told you. MAKE THE FIRST SHOT COUNT.

for you guys who have bolt & run gunbearers there is an easy way to eliminate that problem.

have the ph tell him in his native language if he breaks and runs when the action starts the first barrel goes to the game , and the second goes to him. he can understand that.

i never had any of my gunbearers run off. they were instructed to drop into a squat at the moment i took the rifle off their sholder.