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11 September 2014, 00:38
nitro450exp
My new bore rifle.
Hello the camp.

Came across this for good price.
Figured it was worth playing with.
O/U 12ga 3" 21" barrels.

Nitro








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470 Krieghoff, 45-70 inserts, 12 ga paradox, 20 ga DR Simson/Schimmel, 12 ga DR O/U Famars, 12 ga DR SXS Greener
11 September 2014, 00:57
cal pappas
Being an o/u you should have an easy time of regulation. Keep us posted as to your loads and targets.
Cal


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11 September 2014, 01:04
HBH
See that's what you get for hanging around Bal. rotflmo

Have fun.
11 September 2014, 01:49
nitro450exp
If it doesn't work out i can sell it to Bill73
He has a thing for those O/U guns.




"Man is a predator or at least those of us that kill and eat our own meat are. The rest are scavengers, eating what others kill for them." Hugh Randall
DRSS, BASA
470 Krieghoff, 45-70 inserts, 12 ga paradox, 20 ga DR Simson/Schimmel, 12 ga DR O/U Famars, 12 ga DR SXS Greener
11 September 2014, 02:30
FLGrizzy
Hope it shoots well. That is AWESOME !!!!!


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11 September 2014, 10:46
Wowo
Wounded leopard muti! great weapon! Let us know how she shoots
11 September 2014, 17:27
zgunbear
Nice. What company built it? Looks like a great close range thumpers rifle.


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11 September 2014, 18:30
Bill73
Nice gun buddy,what do you hope to shoot out of it? Weight & speed?
My O/U Dr in 458 Lott is hands down the most accurate & fast handling gun that I own Wink


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11 September 2014, 19:08
MJines
quote:
Originally posted by Bill73:
My O/U Dr in 458 Lott is hands down the most accurate & fast handling gun that I own Wink


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12 September 2014, 02:59
nitro450exp
No idea what regulation load is or was.
Spanish maker so we will try Brenneke slugs.

Fun Will Ensue.

Need better pad.

Nitro


"Man is a predator or at least those of us that kill and eat our own meat are. The rest are scavengers, eating what others kill for them." Hugh Randall
DRSS, BASA
470 Krieghoff, 45-70 inserts, 12 ga paradox, 20 ga DR Simson/Schimmel, 12 ga DR O/U Famars, 12 ga DR SXS Greener
12 September 2014, 05:03
steyrsteve
That's a nice looking rifle. Keep us posted on how it works.


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12 September 2014, 17:17
zgunbear
It looks like it was longer and cut down. I would like to get something similar someday.


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14 September 2014, 16:59
nitro450exp
Model is Lamber Unifrance.

Cleaned up the barrels and crowned them

Edge of trigger guard was a knife edge softened and blued it.

Shot some brenneke slugs offhand, hit the tree I was aiming at.

I have 10 boxes of various slug ammo on the way.

Hope to have by the shoot next fiday.

Nitro


"Man is a predator or at least those of us that kill and eat our own meat are. The rest are scavengers, eating what others kill for them." Hugh Randall
DRSS, BASA
470 Krieghoff, 45-70 inserts, 12 ga paradox, 20 ga DR Simson/Schimmel, 12 ga DR O/U Famars, 12 ga DR SXS Greener
16 September 2014, 06:42
zgunbear
Where did you find the double trigger version, and if I may be so bold how much did it run you? I searched for one and all I can find is a single trigger at CDNN.


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16 September 2014, 17:37
nitro450exp
It came from CDNN they are sold out of the double triggers.

Nitro


"Man is a predator or at least those of us that kill and eat our own meat are. The rest are scavengers, eating what others kill for them." Hugh Randall
DRSS, BASA
470 Krieghoff, 45-70 inserts, 12 ga paradox, 20 ga DR Simson/Schimmel, 12 ga DR O/U Famars, 12 ga DR SXS Greener
17 September 2014, 08:30
mauser93
Here is a novel, radical idea: you could use it as a shotgun. If you were to do that, you could hunt "birds," which are comparatively small animals, almost all of which fly. Just avoid ostrich.
23 September 2014, 19:43
nitro450exp
Have some Brenneke KO Sabots on the way, some Federal Fusion Sabots, Kent Brenneke slugs, Brenneke Black Magic and some Commander IDS Sabots.

Weights range from 7/8 to 1 3/8 oz.

Speeds range from 1450 fps to 1700 fps.

Last of the ammo should arrive today.

Nitro out.


"Man is a predator or at least those of us that kill and eat our own meat are. The rest are scavengers, eating what others kill for them." Hugh Randall
DRSS, BASA
470 Krieghoff, 45-70 inserts, 12 ga paradox, 20 ga DR Simson/Schimmel, 12 ga DR O/U Famars, 12 ga DR SXS Greener
29 September 2014, 03:03
nitro450exp
Hope one of these works.



Nitro


"Man is a predator or at least those of us that kill and eat our own meat are. The rest are scavengers, eating what others kill for them." Hugh Randall
DRSS, BASA
470 Krieghoff, 45-70 inserts, 12 ga paradox, 20 ga DR Simson/Schimmel, 12 ga DR O/U Famars, 12 ga DR SXS Greener
29 September 2014, 10:42
zimbabwe
I don't remember which forum but the discussion was shortbarrel big bores. The writer had a SxS in 375 with 16" factory barrels made for the Indian trade. Beautiful gun as I really like short barrel big bores. This does look like the perfect wounded Leopard gun.


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22 October 2014, 00:42
dewhorse
So the Brenneke Black magics are 600gr moving at around 1500 FPS. That's a little better than the BP 500 of years past.

Glad to see CDNN is sold out.....or else I would be tempted to try one on hogs Cool flame
22 October 2014, 01:58
MacD37
quote:
Originally posted by zimbabwe:
I don't remember which forum but the discussion was shortbarrel big bores. The writer had a SxS in 375 with 16" factory barrels made for the Indian trade. Beautiful gun as I really like short barrel big bores. This does look like the perfect wounded Leopard gun.


I can't remember his name but there was a PH in Tanzania who built a follow-up rifle for following up wounded lions and buffalo. It was a Mod 70 Pre 64 rifle chambered for 458 Win Mag with a 18 inch barrel and fitted in a black synthetic stock. His trackers and driver named it "THE BLACK BITCH". He told me "the fact is it works for what I built it for!" Eeker

I have a Pedersoli Kodiak double chambered for 458 RCBS, that I have been thinking of cutting it back to 16 inch barrels and re-regulating it if necessary, and mount a dovetail for a combat high intensity light under the barrels for follow-up on bears in the alders. The rifle is barrel heavy anyway, and shortening the barrels will balance the rifle better, and be usefull as well!

The reason I haven't already done that is, I was thinking or re-boreing the barrels to 58 cal. and re-chambering the rifle to 577 Snider,or the 58 Berdan Musket. Either would lighten the barrels and make the rifle a fun gun to hunt with using a very low pressure round like the Snider.

Haven't made up my mind yet but either way it would be something very unusual to own and hunt with.

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22 October 2014, 03:40
Bill/Oregon
Mac, a Snider double is just too darned much fun to contemplate. Please post if you start this project!
What is it about these bore rifles and such?


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22 October 2014, 04:29
MacD37
quote:
Originally posted by Bill/Oregon:
Mac, a Snider double is just too darned much fun to contemplate. Please post if you start this project!
What is it about these bore rifles and such?


Clearwater Reboring Has a fixture that allows re-boring double rifle without separating the barrels.

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Rebore pistol or revolver barrel $ 180.00
Rebore Rifle barrel $ 260.00
.......for each inch over 26" (up to 30") add ..$6.50
Rebore, cut new neck and throat $ 395.00
Rebore and rechamber $ 475.00
Rebore double rifle $ 1420.00

Rebore rifle barrel on combination gun (drilling, etc) ................................per barrel
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The guy who has this worked for LeBounty till he retired then took over the business. LeBounty is the guy who designed the fixture.

I've been thinking about this for some time. I have a V. Haffner cape gun that is 20 ga on the left barrel, and 58 Berdan carbine on the right. That is a fun gun to hunt with as well. Decisions, decisions............... Confused


....Mac >>>===(x)===> MacD37, ...and DUGABOY1
DRSS Charter member
"If I die today, I've had a life well spent, for I've been to see the Elephant, and smelled the smoke of Africa!"~ME 1982

Hands of Old Elmer Keith

24 November 2014, 05:16
zgunbear
Any update on this? I am trying to get a Condor outback shooting slugs into one group. SO far the bottom barrel shoots a tight group and the top barrel shot one group. Trouble is they are separated by 6 inches vertically


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25 November 2014, 03:48
nitro450exp
Sorry No updates.
Been traveling.
It got cold up here.

Maybe spring.

Nitro


"Man is a predator or at least those of us that kill and eat our own meat are. The rest are scavengers, eating what others kill for them." Hugh Randall
DRSS, BASA
470 Krieghoff, 45-70 inserts, 12 ga paradox, 20 ga DR Simson/Schimmel, 12 ga DR O/U Famars, 12 ga DR SXS Greener