I had a gunsmith take the Baikal down to the bare metal and GunCoat her. She is swamp gun and needed to be dressed as such. She wasn't much to look at before, but now she has the dull and subtle sophistication of resilient matte black. Couldn’t do much with the "gold" triggers though.

Some may agree that she should never been touched, but then again one of our first outings together I slipped off a log and we ended up meat deep in a muddy creek. So as a preventative measure, I doctored her up.

To the point, no photos yet, as I am embarrassed to say that I cannot remember how to regulate her to a good point of impact at say 75 yards or so. I don't remember which way the jack screw goes (can't find the owner's manual in the cabinet where I left it) and the same linear horizontal plane ain't there no more. Now right barrel is shooting low. I will post some photographs when I can include a picture or two how good she shoots, yeah I know others have posted targets showing their potential, but I want to include mine.

Please fellows I could use some help, trying to find it through search this morning I keep ending up like a prom date with no liquor- unscrewed and confused.

You will NOT get any help on the double rifle forum.

The left barrel is fixed.

Stand the rifle on the recoil pad and insert a pin into the wheel, moving the pin towards the butt of the rifle will cause the right barrel to move towards the right. Moving it up will cause it to move closer to the left.
Love to see some photos of your rifle. I just bought my second Baikal!

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Snowwolfe:
The left barrel is fixed.

If you stand the rifle on the recoil pad and insert a pin into the wheel, moving the pin towards the butt of the rifle will cause the right barrel to move towards the right. QUOTE]

(Assuming it's a SXS., not an O/U)

Good point Mike

I have not yet shot the O/U but you got me on that one!

bkhall, the info I posted was for the SxS rifle.

Thanks folks for the help and reminding statements. It will be my Sunday project as I am going to the Sopchoppy FL class 3 shoot at the Otter Creek range. Yes that is a shameless name drop, but the food is good and most of the people you deal with are a wealth of knowledge and willing to help a fresh guy out when it comes to trouble shooting problems. Oh and by the way THERE ARE CLASS 3 MACHINES to play with.

I am divided between two well place shots at a time or the "accuracy by volume" line when it comes to belt fed.

Who cares as I will have a great weekend fun of food, fun, fellowship and firearms. I will post photos around Monday AM when I get back to my classroom. If I don't speak to you all again until then, have a great weekend and I hope yours is have as fun as mine is going to be. Thank you.

So how did this project turn out? I have a Baikal double in 45-70 that puts one barrel 6" above the the other at 100yds (each barrel is sub-MOA individually however)

I am dying to know how to adjust the vertical on one of these guns.

MrJudgeOC and I played with the vertical regulation a lot on our rifles. We finally got very acceptable regulation.

First look at your target--is the right barrel above or below the left? If below you want to move the right barrel upward in relation to the left. If above, you need to move the right barrel down.

Go to the auto store and buy a set of feeler gauges. You will use individual gauges to move the barrel.

Next with the butt on the ground and your barrels straight up (and of course empty chambers) look at the right barrel where the barrel band encloses the barrel. You will see some slight spacing.

Start with the .003 gauge and insert it from the rear of the barrel band between the barrel band and barrel either above or below. See how that amount of movement affects the level. Then try again with either a thicker or thinner gauge depending on the bullet alignment.

When you are done and have the proper vertical alignment, you can break off the feeler gauge even with the barrel band and leave it in place.

Kinda of a rough way of aligning the barrels, but it sure works.

Have fun.
Jerry

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Originally posted by mrjulian_1970:
So how did this project turn out? I have a Baikal double in 45-70 that puts one barrel 6" above the the other at 100yds (each barrel is sub-MOA individually however)

I am dying to know how to adjust the vertical on one of these guns.

My side by side will regulate easily. So far I have shot about 4 different loads for it and have no difficulty getting both barrels to shoot within 3/4's of an inch or less of each other at 50 yards. Just ordered a 30mm scope mount for it and the 30mm Ultradot will replace the scope that is on it now. Scope looks way out of proportion to the rifle. Once the Ultradot goes on it will go in for a trigger job and then the work will start on the O/U.
Have not yet shot the O/U.

Initial observations between the two is the SxS is lighter, balances better, and is easier to reload but the O/U has a better fitting stock with a lower comb which is easier to get on target with the stock iron sights. Triggers on the O/U. are also much better. Any changes to the loads in the SxS requires it be regulated. Imange once the scope is taken off the Utradot installed regualtion will be required again. Currently shooting Hornady 220's at an estimated 2,400 fps.

quote:

Originally posted by Snowwolfe:
The left barrel is fixed.

Stand the rifle on the recoil pad and insert a pin into the wheel, moving the pin towards the butt of the rifle will cause the right barrel to move towards the right. Moving it up will cause it to move closer to the left.
Love to see some photos of your rifle. I just bought my second Baikal!

I have the SxS Baikal double too, but mine regulates the other way, meaning that turning the wheel towards the butt will cause the right barrel to shoot closer to the left one.

quote:

Originally posted by Judge Jerry:
MrJudgeOC and I played with the vertical regulation a lot on our rifles. We finally got very acceptable regulation.

First look at your target--is the right barrel above or below the left? If below you want to move the right barrel upward in relation to the left. If above, you need to move the right barrel down.

Go to the auto store and buy a set of feeler gauges. You will use individual gauges to move the barrel.

Next with the butt on the ground and your barrels straight up (and of course empty chambers) look at the right barrel where the barrel band encloses the barrel. You will see some slight spacing.

Start with the .003 gauge and insert it from the rear of the barrel band between the barrel band and barrel either above or below. See how that amount of movement affects the level. Then try again with either a thicker or thinner gauge depending on the bullet alignment.

When you are done and have the proper vertical alignment, you can break off the feeler gauge even with the barrel band and leave it in place.

Kinda of a rough way of aligning the barrels, but it sure works.

Have fun.
Jerry

Did someone change the barrel band on his sxs Baikal/Remington double in order to solve the regulation problems? Would like to read more about this solution, as mine doesn't hold zero (the wheel jumps every fourth-fifth shot away from it's position). So I googled back and forth and read about a "german" regulation system, which works with three screws, something like this:
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Has anyone a better/another ideea that would work? Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks.

Razvi,

Sorry to hear about your situation. You could solve it again with the feeler gauges--only this time you would be inserting them on the side of the barrel instead of the bottom/top.

I have shot mine quite a bit with the "wedging" and it has held good.

Good luck to you. I'd really be interested in you found a more effective way. Please post if you do.

Thanks,
Jerry

Thanks for the post, Jerry.
I'm already using the feeler gauges, but as it turned out, they are useless. I think it's related to the broken wheel, but I might be wrong.
Anyway, if I'll find a more effective solution, I'll post it, pictures included.