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Hello, Just wondering what guys here have loaded a 350-360 grain bullet in the 450 nitro, over full house loads for use on smaller game? From what iv e read it will get you close to regulation. What was the velocity? How much less recoil? Thanks. | ||
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I do not load for a 450 nitro,but do reload for a 470 & a 458 lott DR,I have loaded the 350 in the lott & also a lighter bullet in the 470,the lighter bullets will regulate well,but probably take a few less grains short of the full house loads,for example,my 470 takes 87 gr of Rx15 with a 500 gr bullet & 84 gr with a 400 gr bullet to shoot to regulation,recoil is also substantially reduced,I have shot a lot of warthogs & pigs using the lighter bullets,they work great. DRSS | |||
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DoubleBC: In my .450 no2 I shoot 350-grain Hornady bullets and they regulate fine. I do the same with 300-grain bullets in my .450-400. The rule will also work with a full weight bullet and 75% of powder although I've heard not quite as accurate. When spring is here I will experiment a great deal with this second option. Cheers, Cal _______________________________ Cal Pappas, Willow, Alaska www.CalPappas.com www.CalPappas.blogspot.com 1994 Zimbabwe 1997 Zimbabwe 1998 Zimbabwe 1999 Zimbabwe 1999 Namibia, Botswana, Zambia--vacation 2000 Australia 2002 South Africa 2003 South Africa 2003 Zimbabwe 2005 South Africa 2005 Zimbabwe 2006 Tanzania 2006 Zimbabwe--vacation 2007 Zimbabwe--vacation 2008 Zimbabwe 2012 Australia 2013 South Africa 2013 Zimbabwe 2013 Australia 2016 Zimbabwe 2017 Zimbabwe 2018 South Africa 2018 Zimbabwe--vacation 2019 South Africa 2019 Botswana 2019 Zimbabwe vacation 2021 South Africa 2021 South Africa (2nd hunt a month later) ______________________________ | |||
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Bill/Cal Thank you for the replies, Very honoured. Im wondering what the increase in velocity i so I can calculate trajectory. Partially because im a bit nuts and over think things, but Im thinking why get a 450 400 or 375 when I can get a 450, load it down for NA game. Fire a 350 gr bullet at reasonable velocity. Maybe even put QD mounts on it for the reduced loads? Have my cake and eat it too. What do you think? Kelly. | |||
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If you can do it in the way you wrote, I would say: "It is an great and practical idea." | |||
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I have all of my shooting info packed away to make room for my shipment of Bore Rifle books so I can't give an exact velocity. Memory tells me a 350-grain from my .450 no2 with 105 grains of IMR 4831 was 2350-4000 fps. cheers, Cal _______________________________ Cal Pappas, Willow, Alaska www.CalPappas.com www.CalPappas.blogspot.com 1994 Zimbabwe 1997 Zimbabwe 1998 Zimbabwe 1999 Zimbabwe 1999 Namibia, Botswana, Zambia--vacation 2000 Australia 2002 South Africa 2003 South Africa 2003 Zimbabwe 2005 South Africa 2005 Zimbabwe 2006 Tanzania 2006 Zimbabwe--vacation 2007 Zimbabwe--vacation 2008 Zimbabwe 2012 Australia 2013 South Africa 2013 Zimbabwe 2013 Australia 2016 Zimbabwe 2017 Zimbabwe 2018 South Africa 2018 Zimbabwe--vacation 2019 South Africa 2019 Botswana 2019 Zimbabwe vacation 2021 South Africa 2021 South Africa (2nd hunt a month later) ______________________________ | |||
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I meant to write 2350-2400 fps. Not 4000fps. Cal _______________________________ Cal Pappas, Willow, Alaska www.CalPappas.com www.CalPappas.blogspot.com 1994 Zimbabwe 1997 Zimbabwe 1998 Zimbabwe 1999 Zimbabwe 1999 Namibia, Botswana, Zambia--vacation 2000 Australia 2002 South Africa 2003 South Africa 2003 Zimbabwe 2005 South Africa 2005 Zimbabwe 2006 Tanzania 2006 Zimbabwe--vacation 2007 Zimbabwe--vacation 2008 Zimbabwe 2012 Australia 2013 South Africa 2013 Zimbabwe 2013 Australia 2016 Zimbabwe 2017 Zimbabwe 2018 South Africa 2018 Zimbabwe--vacation 2019 South Africa 2019 Botswana 2019 Zimbabwe vacation 2021 South Africa 2021 South Africa (2nd hunt a month later) ______________________________ | |||
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My 75% loads for the 450 No2 and the 450/400 3 1/4" [using the full load of powder the rifle regulates with the standard weight bullet], I get @2330fps in the 450 No2 with the 350gr Hornady, and in the 450/400 3 1/4" with 300gr Hawks I also get @2330fps. My 75% rule, refers to using a bullet that weighs @75% of the normal standard full weight bullets with the same powder charge you use for full power loads, give or take a grain of two depending on the particular double. DOUBLE RIFLE SHOOTERS SOCIETY | |||
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Tony/Cal, Thanks for posting the velocities. Kelly. | |||
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I load my 500/450 Holland Royal with 350 gr Hornady Round Nose bullets with the same charge of R-15 as the 480 gr Woodleighs and it shoots to the same POI at about 2300fps. | |||
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Should this work the same for the 9.3x74R with the 235 or 250 weight bullets? Happy new year Malek Good shooting/hunting and God's best Best regards Malek Good Hunting/Shooting and God's best. | |||
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That concept appeals to me, Cal, but does it assume the powder is pretty fast-burning? To do it with 4831 (a popular powder with some db-rifle handloaders) would seem to take us into dangerous territory. Regards - Paul | |||
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Sambarman338: Good day. I use a hot primer and a filler with reduced powder charges of 4831 to keep the powder next to the primer for good ignition and have no problems, no hang fires, etc... I can only speak from my experience. I will do extensive shooting in the summer and will file a report with the AR folks here as to accuracy and velocity. Cheers, Cal _______________________________ Cal Pappas, Willow, Alaska www.CalPappas.com www.CalPappas.blogspot.com 1994 Zimbabwe 1997 Zimbabwe 1998 Zimbabwe 1999 Zimbabwe 1999 Namibia, Botswana, Zambia--vacation 2000 Australia 2002 South Africa 2003 South Africa 2003 Zimbabwe 2005 South Africa 2005 Zimbabwe 2006 Tanzania 2006 Zimbabwe--vacation 2007 Zimbabwe--vacation 2008 Zimbabwe 2012 Australia 2013 South Africa 2013 Zimbabwe 2013 Australia 2016 Zimbabwe 2017 Zimbabwe 2018 South Africa 2018 Zimbabwe--vacation 2019 South Africa 2019 Botswana 2019 Zimbabwe vacation 2021 South Africa 2021 South Africa (2nd hunt a month later) ______________________________ | |||
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