A-Zoom snap caps for 450 3 1/4

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15 May 2013, 11:01

505G

quote:
Originally posted by Matt Moore:
Wouldn't 450/400s work if they make them?
Matt

Yes they do.

Occasionally you need to fiddle with the rim
but minor and that is more to do with the gun's
chambers than anything else.

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16 May 2013, 11:13

Frostbit

quote:
Originally posted by Mike Brooks:
Frosty, build your own set. It's quick easy and cheap. Bring brass and I'll do it for you if you want.

I did a set for alaskaman11 recently.

You're on Mike. I'll give you a call when time settles down a bit. Do they hold up well to repeated use or do you have change out the striking surface often?

16 May 2013, 11:20

505G

quote:
Originally posted by Frostbit:
I've got them but with the short build and flat nose they don't mimic live rounds for reloading practice very well.

They aren't supposed to mimic live rounds.

For that, make up 4 DUMMY rounds with sand
and bullets. Make it a lot easier.

.

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16 May 2013, 22:28

JCS271

Making your own from fired brass is easy, the only decision is what to use for the primer pocket. One of my friends showed me a great tip. He took a leather hole punch, and punched out some scrap boot leather. He took the little piece of "former hole plug" and it press fit in snugly. Works great, basically free and not hard on your pins. Mine are from black leather so they are very obvious as dummy rounds.

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16 May 2013, 22:55

twoseventy

Making your own from fired brass is not only easy but lasts forever. If you have an RCBS stuck case remover, drill out and tap the the primer pocket. Buy some nylon screws three inches long and screw them in from the case mouth end until it is flush with the primer pocket. As the firing pin wears an indentation, just turn the screw in about one turn and trim with a sharp knife. It will take a long time to wear out the nylon screws.

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16 May 2013, 23:09

shootaway

quote:
Originally posted by 505G:
quote:
Originally posted by Frostbit:
I've got them but with the short build and flat nose they don't mimic live rounds for reloading practice very well.

They aren't supposed to mimic live rounds.

For that, make up 4 DUMMY rounds with sand
and bullets. Make it a lot easier.

.

That would be foolish wouldn`t it?

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17 May 2013, 05:32

Mike Brooks

quote:
Originally posted by Frostbit:

You're on Mike. I'll give you a call when time settles down a bit. Do they hold up well to repeated use or do you have change out the striking surface often?

These are the short ones Frosty. Not dummy rounds. The replacement parts are currently $pendy, at Lowes they are $0.63!

17 May 2013, 05:34

Mike Brooks

quote:
Originally posted by shootaway:
The risk of sand ending up in the bore after bullets loose up in the necks from repeated falls on the ground.

With anyone else I'm sure that would be meant as a joke.. However in this case....

17 May 2013, 07:14

sambarman338

Considering advice seen regarding decocking on another forum, I'd be careful about ersatz snapcaps. For instance, it seems that holding a copper coin against the standing breech is not recommended but expensive, horn decockers are.

My son-in-law got me some nickel-plated .450/.400 snapcaps from Kynoch, which are short and seem to last.

Dunno what he paid but you'd think they'd have the right resistance.

18 May 2013, 09:17

Mike Brooks

A-Zoom is a division of Lyman. They do list a part number for the 450 NE. I called and asked sometime ago about when they were going to do another run of them. They said at that time there were no plans because there were no rifles being made for he 450..
They must not be paying attention much. They make 600 Nitro snap caps and as few 600's are being made there might be a few more 450's made??

18 May 2013, 10:02

shootaway

I forgot to mention that an akward fitting snap cap or whatever you want to call them can screw things up in an action because of the stress it may cause.That was the reason I stopped using a-zoom in my bolt action rifles.Unlike brass,the material used to make them may not give in and cause all kinds of issues.It can cause stress on bolt stop pins,trigger pins etc...Something to think about before using them in an expensive double.I will stick with ordinary cases as dummy rds.