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I think I'm going to want to put a more precise aiming system on my Chapuis 9.3x74R but it handles and balances so nicely now I hesitate to put a scope on it. I've been looking at some options and this one jumped out at me. It's not big or bulky and it should be very quick to use. Has anyone used something like this or thought about it and didn't? http://www.swfa.com/pc-4227-229-trijicon-1x24-reflex-ii...luminated-sight.aspx DB Bill aka Bill George | ||
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You mean something like this?  ______________________ RMEF Life Member SCI DRSS Chapuis 9,3/9,3 + 20/20 Simson 12/12/9,3 Zoli 7x57R/12 Kreighoff .470/.470 We band of 9,3ers! The Few. The Pissed. The Taxpayers. | |||
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While I do not own a double, I've used the Trijicon Reflex on AR15s. Mine has the triangluar aiming point which I like. It's sighted to use the tip of the triangle for fine aiming and I just "cover" the target for fast shooting. They are great also for low light shooting. If you can see the target, you can hit it. For the Reflex sight to work, you've got to shoot with both eyes open. Also it is stated that you need corrected vision to use it. Check out the Trijicon website. I've used mine without my glasses a lot and while it makes a difference, it's still useable. My left eye is far weaker than right eye. One odd thing about how it works is, you can cover the muzzle end of the sight so you cannot see thru it and still hit with it. In fact, in very low light you cannot not see thru it. The Trijicon website can explain it better than I. Joe A. | |||
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LHR270 ... sorry I can't make out what it is but it looks small enough to be handy. How about a better photo and some details. How is it mounted? DB Bill aka Bill George | |||
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Bill That sight on Joe's double is the Docter Optic. I have shot one on a Colt M-4, and liked it quite a bit. In fact I should have one by Monday that I plan to mount on my Blaser R 93. The Doctor Optic comes with either a 7 minute dot or a 3.5minute dot. For rifles you want the 3.5 Minute dot. The nice thing about the D O is its small size and the fact that even the mounting base is small. They make a mounting base that will fit in the rear claw mount. These bases are nade by EAW. On the new Generation 4 the battery lasts for 6 years. The D O sight is always "on". It automatically adjusts for the light conditions. It does have a cover that puts it in the night mode that conserves battery life. It uses a commonly found lithium battery, the same one the Swaro and S&B scopes use. It just might be the best red dot scope for a huntinng rifle. I will be testing mine in a few days. DOUBLE RIFLE SHOOTERS SOCIETY | |||
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Bill Let me add that I would recommend that you have a scope fitted in claw mounts, AND a Docter Optic fitted. Then you have the best of all 3 worlds, iron sights, scope and red dot. DOUBLE RIFLE SHOOTERS SOCIETY | |||
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They are pretty good. I've used mine on my 95 BBF and 93R for about 4 years now. One battery change in that time. Fine aiming tends to go out the window past about 150m but for snap shooting, it's great. Cheers, Dave. Aut Inveniam Viam aut Faciam. | |||
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Dave "out to 150M" Exactly, that is why on a 9,3x74R I would want to have a scope in the 1.5-6 range [with an illuminated reticle {leopard, pigs, bear, etc in low light}, and a Doctor Optic. I have a scope in claw mounts on my 400 double and just may have to add a DO that fits the rear claw base. I will post the results of my tests in a few days. DOUBLE RIFLE SHOOTERS SOCIETY | |||
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ISN'T IT GOING TO BE A BIT PRICEY TO ADD CLAW MOUNTS ($1,000) A GOOD SCOPE ($600 - $1,200) , AND .... THEN THE DR. OPTIC ( $ ) AND THE MOUNTING BASE ( $ ) TO FIT INTO THE CLAW MOUNT? SOUNDS LIKE ABOUT A $2,500 TO $3,00 PROPOSITION. BUT A NICE SET UP NONETHELESS ! TOMO577 DOUBLE RIFLE SHOOTERS SOCIETY | |||
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Bill Does your Chapuis have the pre-cut rib that is scope mount ready? Go to www.eaw.de and look at the Docter Optic bases. They might make one that gits the drop in base on your Chapuis. TOMO You are correct, it is expensive to have a good scope, red dot, mount system. But it is never a good idea to go "on the cheap" for a traveling hunting gun, especially if it will be used for expensive and dangerous game. DOUBLE RIFLE SHOOTERS SOCIETY | |||
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Actually the pic I posted is a new Burris product that Don Heath had on his Kriegoff. He said he was going to write it up in an upcoming issue of African Hunter. I believe it mounts on a single Weaver-type base. Sorry, that's the only pic I have of it. ______________________ RMEF Life Member SCI DRSS Chapuis 9,3/9,3 + 20/20 Simson 12/12/9,3 Zoli 7x57R/12 Kreighoff .470/.470 We band of 9,3ers! The Few. The Pissed. The Taxpayers. | |||
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Trijicon also makes a red dot sight that looks like the Docter Optic. Do not know anything about the 2 copies. DOUBLE RIFLE SHOOTERS SOCIETY | |||
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Since I saw LSR270's sight I've been checking the internet. 1) Dr Optic w/3.5 moa dot at SWFA $403. 2) Burris w/4 moa dot at SWFA $166 3) Trijicom w/8 moa (don't know if they make smaller dot) at SWFA $276 4) Optima JPoint (the old Optima 2000) w/4 moa at $234 I'm going to check some local stores to see if they have any. DB Bill aka Bill George | |||
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As has been alluded to above, but perhaps needs restating, red dot sights are fine for fast shooting (single sighting plane), and for accurate short range shooting. My limit for accurate shooting with a red dot would be 50 yards or so. The problem is the angle subtended by the dot. A 3 minute dot would subtend 3" at 100 yards. Problems arise with some red dot sights because in bright sunlight, the intensity must be increased. When you do this, with some sights, the dot is no longer a dot but something like a figure 8 and accurate aiming becomes impossible. I am not familiar with the Doctor Optic, but understand that they are high quality. I have used red dot sights on my race guns, a target 22 pistol and a Bushmaster Carbon 15. Peter. Be without fear in the face of your enemies. Be brave and upright, that God may love thee. Speak the truth always, even if it leads to your death. Safeguard the helpless and do no wrong; | |||
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Bill If you can hold off a few days I will be testing the Docter Optic, the Zeiss Z Point, the EO Tech, and a S&B 1.5-6 Zenith with Flashdot, side by side on the same rifle a Blaser R 93 with a 308 Tracker bbl. DOUBLE RIFLE SHOOTERS SOCIETY | |||
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Not a problem as I can't pick up my Chapuis for another 8 or 9 days. DB Bill aka Bill George | |||
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