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Originally posted by Dave Bush:

N E 450 No2,I don't mean to bust your chops but double rifles were never designed for scopes, especially guns like the 450/400, 450, 470, 500, etc all of which push heavy bullets at modest velocity. IMHO, none of these guns are for longe range shooting. That's why you carry a back up bolt rifle with a scope in a flatter shooting cartridge. We Americans seem to have forgotten how to use iron sights. Practice with your irons until you can consistently break a gallon milk jug filled with water at 50 meters and you will be good to go. Besides, scopes look butt ugly on a double!

Dave, It is eveident you don't know Tony (NE450N02) very well! He trained half the Police snipers in the state of Texas, and can shoot Irons about as well as scopes, but he's no dummy, He uses the sight that works best no matter what rifle he shoots. I personally saw him hit a trotting coyote with each barrel of a Chapuis 9.3X74R s/s double rifle, at a measured 278 yards, from a kneeling position. The first shot spun the coyote, and second shot put him down for the count! That is a six inch moving target top to bottom on a coyote's chest. SO I guess what I'm saying is he really doesn't need any advice pointed at "LEARNING" to shoot! What Cha thank, Y'all?

Hey Dave just busting your chops, not serious!

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Originally posted by 5seventy:

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Originally posted by Will:
I shoot a 7 1/2 pound 416. Why an 8 1/2 pound double will cause paralysis I am not sure.

Will, have you ever done any shooting with an 8.5 pound 470 NE?

Nope. But maybe the laws of physics are different in the southern hemisphere?

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Originally posted by Will:

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Originally posted by 5seventy:

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Originally posted by Will:
I shoot a 7 1/2 pound 416. Why an 8 1/2 pound double will cause paralysis I am not sure.

Will, have you ever done any shooting with an 8.5 pound 470 NE?

Nope. But maybe the laws of physics are different in the southern hemisphere?

Nope. Was just asking if you had ever shot an 8.5 pound 470, that's all.

Hey Tony
Good talking to you in Dallas Buddy
Keep up the good shooting
Larry

Larry,

In terms of weight, for a .500 I prefer 11 - 11.5 pounds, for a .470 go about a pound lighter. A 10.5 pound .500 works (that is what my Krieghoff weighs) but ideally I think 11 - 11.5 is ideal. On barrel lengh, I think the longer barrels tend to balance better and make shooting more pleasant. I am not sure why the latter is true but talk to some folks that shoot doubles with longer barrels and they will all tell you the same thing. Kelly Gill shoots a William Evans .500 with 27" barrels and loves it. I think the easier handling argument made for 24" barrels is overstated. The fact is that a double with 26" barrels is still very handy -- with the lack of a receiver 26" barrels on a double is nothing like 26" barrels on a bolt action rifle.

My British 450 No2 has 28" barrels, I much prefer them to 24" barrels.