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Will have the first one next week in Houston. 450/400 built on the 375 frame.   | ||
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Nice! weights? 9lbs? | |||
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$$$? Mike ______________ DSC DRSS (again) SCI Life NRA Life Sables Life Mzuri IPHA "To be a Marine is enough." | |||
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Really nice ... on the bucket list... Morten The more I know, the less I wonder ! | |||
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Now were talking. The only reason I sold my Heym 400 was weight and size to caliber ratio. Hope I can make Vegas to grope this. Mac | |||
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Another example of Heym listening to public demand. That thing is sweet. | |||
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What does it weigh? What does it cost? Doesthe scope change the regulation? | |||
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I understand that Heym is listening to (US) demand. Yes, the gun now looks like every other pseudo UK double. It seems that is what the customer wants and this is fine of ourse and client oriented.Personally I still like the distinctive look of my trusty 88 much more. | |||
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They still make it so your in luck! Mac | |||
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After a bit of experience I would have it regulated with a scope in this caliber and open sites would be close enough. Mac | |||
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Regulated with scope? Why not, for accuracy? Aaron Little regulated my .405 Simson Suhl with scope AND irons .   Dead on with either. NRA Life Benefactor Member, DRSS, DWWC, Whittington Center,Android Reloading Ballistics App at http://www.xplat.net/ | |||
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I will put it on the scale as soon as it clears Customs. We targeted 10 lbs (or a bit less) with the scope. You should expect any rifle with a scope to shoot a bit differently when the scope is removed. There's really no escaping the change in recoil from the addition / subtraction of the weight of the scope. Generally speaking, a lighter scope = less difference, heavier scope = more difference. Having said that, I'm sure someone has a double that shots "one hole" groups both with and without the scope, but I would say that is the exception, rather than the rule. | |||
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Looks nice - am I jealous? You bet! As RyanB inquired: What does it cost? Also, what does mounting the scope add to it? I was going to put a Swaro 1-6x on my 88 until I heard the mounting would cost more than the scope. | |||
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Damn! That's a beautiful double! Rusty We Band of Brothers! DRSS, NRA & SCI Life Member "I am rejoiced at my fate. Do not be uneasy about me, for I am with my friends." ----- David Crockett in his last letter (to his children), January 9th, 1836 "I will never forsake Texas and her cause. I am her son." ----- Jose Antonio Navarro, from Mexican Prison in 1841 "for I have sworn upon the altar of god eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man." Thomas Jefferson Declaration of Arbroath April 6, 1320-“. . .It is not for glory, nor riches, nor honours that we are fighting, but for freedom - for that alone, which no honest man gives up but with life itself.” | |||
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Would you describe this as being on a 12 guage sized action or a 20 guage sized action ??? I am not implying that you've built them on a shotgun action I am just trying to get an appreciation of their scale/size. | |||
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Unless the 89 has grown a lot from the 88, the .450/.400 frame size is probably much closer to a 20-bore than a 12. | |||
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Just unboxed it... WOW! Scale, proportions, weight... spot on! | |||
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It'd sure be nice if you told us pricing. | |||
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The 88s start in the upper teens and the 89s in the low 20s. | |||
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A great double, in an "smaler frame and caliber". Here you can see the Heym CEO, Mister T. W., on the Heym factory shooting place/Germany with these great double: https://www.facebook.com/heym.ag/ | |||
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The 89B looks very nice but I cant see the point in choosing it in .450/400NE.. If you need something heavier than .375H&H why dont choose a .450-.470-.500 something..?? | |||
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Pondoro, the more years I age, the more doubles I own and shoot, the more perfect the 450-400 becomes. Having started out with a 577 as my first DR , then moving to 500's, 470's etc,- over the past 40+ years. The 450-400 unless regularly pursuing elephant, is IMO the near perfect DR. Enough energy and bore diameter to qualify for DG in all countries (as I can tell presently) Light enough for an old man to carry, with less recoil,than the 450/470 class yet with with excellent penetration/killing effect. If you are a dedicated up close elephant hunter with plans to pursue elephant every year, my choice would be different. For the remainder of hunting and having owned (and still own) larger and smaller DR's- If I were to have but one- it would be a scoped 450-400 around the 10 to 10.5 pound range. Your choice may differ. PS: If you are a hand loader, I have loaded 210's and 300's, along with other 400 loads to all regulate to the same relative point of aim at the factory 400 regulation distance. | |||
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Price, price, price? Dave | |||
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The 88s start in the upper teens and the 89s in the low 20s. | |||
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What was that 450 I saw in Reno a while back? Black receiver, no, or little engraving. Jaeger? Or something? | |||
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That would have been an 88B. We made a limited run (with no ejectors) that we called the Jaeger. | |||
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Very good. Thank you. | |||
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Having owned and still own pretty much every caliber between the a 360 & 577. My personal opinion is the 400's are the best all around caliber. Carry well, decent power, shootability. If I chased elephant every trip yes, something bigger would be better. But most of us don't and the 400 just fills the niche of an all around perfect double IMO. Mac | |||
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The 450-400 is my go-to double for Africa, in spite of me having larger caliber doubles. My other favorite is the 375 Flanged double. | |||
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This IS truly a nice rifle- I handled it today- Chris and Tony are off with it and the new Heym/Martini 505 to HSC then SCI. I will catch up to them and the rifle at SCI next Monday. . | |||
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That rifle looks sweet. 9 lb 2 oz is just perfect "When the wind stops....start rowing. When the wind starts, get the sail up quick." | |||
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I see your point Clan...must admit I had elephant in mind..and I understand age takes its toll. Out of curiosity...what .577 did you start out with..? What did you hunt with it..? | |||
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Wilkes, never got that one to Africa , killed deer , pigs , other vermin and targets only. | |||
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I must agree! the 450-400 NE 3" is about a perfect as one can get in a 10 lb double rifle. I had an ARMY&NAVY 450-400NE 3" a few years ago and have regretted letting out of my hands till today, and if I could afford the new 89 shown here it would be in my vault as soon as they could make me one! ......................................................................  ....Mac >>>===(x)===> MacD37, ...and DUGABOY1 DRSS Charter member "If I die today, I've had a life well spent, for I've been to see the Elephant, and smelled the smoke of Africa!"~ME 1982 Hands of Old Elmer Keith  | |||
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Well done Chris! One ounce less than my V-C .400 round action I bought two years ago. Perfect for those Australia buff the last two years and this coming year. Deo Vindice, Don Sons of Confederate Veterans Black Horse Camp #780 | |||
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A small frame 450/400 is the perfect double rifle, especially at 9-10 pounds. Would not hesitate going after anything, including elephant, with that rifle. Looks like Heym hit a home run with that one! | |||
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I had the chance to handle this rifle yesterday and all I can say is, "WOW!" It fit me great and handles like a dream. | |||
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