JPK,

Don't take anything I said personally. I am just too tickled to yank these guys' chains.

Like I said in my book a half dozen times, talk is cheap. I am proud of you for telling us what happened! I screw up things all the time, though I may not always admit it.

I hope you get back this year for another. My guess is that you will.

Bill

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I am not too impressed by the shotguns you built for Mr. Fudd, as it seems they are always blowing up.

Those were Acme Brand Fudd had on loan From the Master Gunmaker Y. Lee Coyote!!

Joking aside, I did at one point own a six barreled rifle. German, hammers, not a proof mark on it tho beautfully made, had a silver strip running down the rib that was engraved in German, "First Prize German Shooting Exhibition 1881". Don't know whether it won the first prize or was the first prize!! Hammers had swiveling noses so you could fire one, two or three barrels at a time. Took chamber casts and calibre appeared to be .360 Express. Nice strapwork style engraving, trap buttplate. Bright finish on action and buttplate. Never dared to shoot it. Sold it to, as best I recall, Safari Outfitters in CT for what at the time was enormous money. Year or so later it showed up in another dealer catalog at double the money and disgustingly with a gold plated action.

Was walking around the Pest side of Budapest last year and decided to stop into the national museum late one afternoon. They happened to have the most amazing collection of antique rifles by various Austrian and Hungarian makers. Lots of multibarreled devices to be admired. Everything was in pristine as new condition...really unbelievable luck on my part.

Throughout the country and region there are many smaller local museums which have excellent collections of exotic firearms and edged weapons.

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Originally posted by Will:
JPK,

Don't take anything I said personally. I am just too tickled to yank these guys' chains.

Like I said in my book a half dozen times, talk is cheap. I am proud of you for telling us what happened! I screw up things all the time, though I may not always admit it.

I hope you get back this year for another. My guess is that you will.

Bill

Will,

I don't mind the ribbing from you, and I won't take it personally. I post the unvarnished results of my hunts, no "internet perfection" here, just reality. Since you have the experience, chiding me for my less than perfect performance is just ribbing. From the poseuer who has none, it is just rude.

JPK

Good for you, JPK.

As Will says, talk is cheap.

Interesting!!!

All the the issues listed here are operator problems. No matter which make of rifle, blame the rifle.

Too many owner operators!!!

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Originally posted by JohnWKiely:
Interesting!!!

All the the issues listed here are operator problems. No matter which make of rifle, blame the rifle.

Too many owner operators!!!

Professional Drinker/Hunters the lot of
them!!

Imagine how they'd do with the R93 Duo!!

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Originally posted by Will:
Surprised or not, I admit double triggers are beyond me under stress. About got myself stepped on once. That was enough.

And if honesty prevailed, I wouldn't be the only one to admit it around here.

this got to be for the master class then....

best

peter

The best practice I have found for mastering 2 triggers is a shotgun so equipped.

Hunting dove in particular, the shotgun triggers are used to make instantaneous choke selections.

Birds coming in get a left barrel (tighter choke) first, then a right barrel (open choke) as they get closer, etc... After a few boxes in the field, it's like shifting gears on a standard transmission; you can actually make the selection without too much difficulty.

For any animal below elephant, where you might want a soft in one bbl and a solid in the other, this practice gets your mind in the process of thinking that the two triggers on a DR also provide an instantaneous choice.

I can respect those that are set on single triggers, but I wouldn't let that experience discourage those that haven't given double triggers a fair chance. On your shotgun or double rifle, two triggers provide instantaneous barrel selection, and I believe that's a benefit on both types of firearms.

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Originally posted by new_guy:
The best practice I have found for mastering 2 triggers is a shotgun so equipped.

Absolutely spot on!

The local trap and skeet range usually has a variety of stations. If it's not crowded, you can set up at the ones that zing the clays past horizontally, like the "running rabbit".

And the cost of a box of 12 gauge shells is a bargain when compared to one 470 Nitro cartridge. Great practice for snap shooting and leading a target. And a couple hundred shotgun rounds in an afternoon is a walk in the park for your shoulder compared to a box of full house nitro loads.

INCOMING! INCOMING! AT 2 O'CLOCK!! the PH yells.


A gray blur comes weaving through the thorn trees faster than my eyes can focus. A branch breaks and shifts my mind into the first gear of fear.

I stumble backwards as I try to raise the double rifle to my shoulder. Sweat pours from my brow obscuring the oncoming demon as my sweating hands put a death grip on my rifle's stock.

Now the blur bursts from the bush, blocking out the sun like the shadow of death. In a last desperate effort to save myself I shoot from the hip as blackness towers overhead.

Diana has shined upon my plight as the 500 gr. solid has taken a savior's course.

The tingling blood flow of life returns to my body as a gray ghost rains down upon me.

I can tell you that was one dead-ass dove.

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Originally posted by Will:
INCOMING! INCOMING! AT 2 O'CLOCK!! the PH yells.


A gray blur comes weaving through the thorn trees faster than my eyes can focus. A branch breaks and shifts my mind into the first gear of fear.

I stumble backwards as I try to raise the double rifle to my shoulder. Sweat pours from my brow obscuring the oncoming demon as my sweating hands put a death grip on my rifle's stock.

Now the blur bursts from the bush, blocking out the sun like the shadow of death. In a last desperate effort to save myself I shoot from the hip as blackness towers overhead.

Diana has shined upon my plaight as the 500 gr. solid has taken a savior's course.

The tingling blood flow of life returns to my body as a gray ghost rains down upon me.

I can tell you that was one dead-ass dove.

Gives me chills. The Winged Death

And to think you were but a drumstick away from a most agonizing demise.

Be thankful your shot found its mark and you were spared a hand to hand encounter with the dreaded "yellow beak of death". Like a damn straight razor.

And the talons of the "winged leopard of the sky", capable of stripping flesh from bone in seconds.

You are indeed a lucky man, Bill. I trust that your trophy now adorns some appropriately fashionable headgear to compliment your stylish sandals. Or, did you throw caution to the wind and go for the elegant boa? I must say, with the sandals and a backless safari gown, the boa would be smashing! Go for it, Bill! You've earned it!

I cam always count on you Jim to make light of a very serious matter.

Not trying to make light of it at all!

You misconstrue my intentions, sir! Do you think I would denigrate the legend himself? The Birdman of Botswana?

I just figured, you being the peacock of pachederm publications, that you would indulge yourself in a bit of feathery finery after such a fowl encounter.

And do you think I want JPK questioning my dove hunting credentials?

Please forgive me if I ruffled any feathers.

(PS - You went with the boa, didn't you?!?!)

Screw the boa. What really pisses me off is your comment about the backless. I was all prepared to go frontless, but now I'm not so sure.

Damn it all.

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Be thankful your shot found its mark and you were spared a hand to hand encounter with the dreaded "yellow beak of death". Like a damn straight razor.

And the talons of the "winged leopard of the sky", capable of stripping flesh from bone in seconds.

Oh goody Pterodactyl season is open again!!

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Originally posted by Will:
INCOMING! INCOMING! AT 2 O'CLOCK!! the PH yells.


A gray blur comes weaving through the thorn trees faster than my eyes can focus. A branch breaks and shifts my mind into the first gear of fear.

I stumble backwards as I try to raise the double rifle to my shoulder. Sweat pours from my brow obscuring the oncoming demon as my sweating hands put a death grip on my rifle's stock.

Now the blur bursts from the bush, blocking out the sun like the shadow of death. In a last desperate effort to save myself I shoot from the hip as blackness towers overhead.

Diana has shined upon my plight as the 500 gr. solid has taken a savior's course.

The tingling blood flow of life returns to my body as a gray ghost rains down upon me.

I can tell you that was one dead-ass dove.

Just give me a double shot of whatever Manion's drinking.

Will,

I'd like to get a dove skin belt and a wallet from you. Please send pricing information.

Yadda, Yadda, Yadda!
Until you had to stopped the charge of a wounded badger armed only with a A.H. Fox CE grade 20ga loaded with 7 1/2 shot. . . .

Doubling, oh please! No one holds a candle to PWN375 with a doubled 500 NE. or the guy who double the 577. I've only doubled a 450/400 3 1/4 and a 470!

I am now trying to design a 22LR double rifle that will not be too heavy for it's caliber! This weight should not hinder Dan while he is charging toward the elephant!

If that works then a 22LR/22LR over a 4 bore Drilling could be imagined at right around 2 Lbs.

You guys are the greatest!

I can't wait for Bill's new book to be finished. "Death in the Sunflowers" is sure to be an instant classic!

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22LR/22LR over a 4 bore Drilling could be imagined at right around 2 Lbs.

A Deringer......

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Originally posted by peterdk:

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Originally posted by Will:
Surprised or not, I admit double triggers are beyond me under stress. About got myself stepped on once. That was enough.

And if honesty prevailed, I wouldn't be the only one to admit it around here.

this got to be for the master class then....

best

peter

I love that gun!