What weight bullet would you choose, 180 vs 215, to regulate a new double rifle built to hunt deer and pigs on up to elk-size game at ranges up to 150 yards? Which bullet brand would be your choice and why? Thanks!

450/400NE

I've always advocated heavier for cal bullets, but I don't know the ballistic differences between the two, so I don't have much. However, 180 grained bullets have always been a good load for 30 cal rifles, and if you just plan on shooting elk, der, and hogs, I'm sure the 180 grained bullet will work. Howver, if you plan on shooting anything bigger or with thicker skin, I'd go with the heavier for cal bullets.

Also, if you're going to scope your double, make sure they regulate it with the scope you intend to use.

450/400NE,

Go with the 215gr bullets. Better sectional density and penetration. If you are having a new gun built have the maker use ammo loaded with woodleighs. If the gun is regulated for heavy bullets its pretty to get the lighter 180gr and 150gr bullets to regulate as you will have more velocity to play with.

Corbin

Easy - 215 grain Woodleighs. I wouldn't even consider 180s. The 215 grain bullet is what permitted the .303 Sporting to perform beyond it's paper ballistics on heavier game and it will do anything the 180s will on the lighter.
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Did you get .308 or .311 bores?

Rich
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I have requested .312 groove diameter to favor Woodleighs.

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Originally posted by Idaho Sharpshooter:
Did you get .308 or .311 bores?

Rich
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What a classy choice in a double. Edouard Foa would be proud.

I think a 303 double would be simply neat! The case design is just about perfect for double rifle to.

tomo577 showed up with a .303 DR at the DR shoot in brady last june.... sweet, light double and he shot it well...

what a grand choice. Makes for a really neat stalking rifle for anything up to about 600lbs or so.

Rich
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Who makes new doubles in .303? I, too, find it an attractive proposition. (The .30-40-220 would be a fine choice as well.)

i have a Westley Richards 303 droplock with all the bells & whistles Westley offered in 1908
whitworth steel barrels
ejectors
single selective trigger - we see where miller stole his idea from !
safe & bolted safety
droplock with jeweled locks and 2 gold animals inlaid
patent foresight protector
one standing and 3 folding leaves- platinum lines
long triggerguard
pistolgrip trap
real nice wood

refinished to new long before i got it 17 yrs ago. excellent shooter - probably the most accurate double rifle i have owned. it was built for Lord Selborne - the man who convinced parliament to combine the cape colony, transvall , the orange free state and natal into THE UNION OF SOUTH AFRICA by passing the Selborne amendment

it is listed on gunsinternational.com - search under my name tom ondrus
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Originally posted by Bill/Oregon:
What a classy choice in a double. Edouard Foa would be proud.

I think we rely on velocity too much today. The heavy for caliber bullets are still the way to go as they were over 100 years ago. I am re-reading Edouard Foa's After Big Game in Central Africa as we speak. Stay with tradition and hammer those animals with the penetration power of the 215s

Tomo577- Why are you trying to rid your self of such a snazzy sxs shooter?

I dig the histoty behind it. Knowing the story of the rifle truly makes it classic. If only I hadn't just bought a house.

i have too many rifles and want to sell off some and get another holland royal, but in a bigger caliber.

the Westley is a super nice rifle, but since i got disabled and can't stalk anymore having a great stalking rifle isn't of much use to me.

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Originally posted by 333_OKH:

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Originally posted by Bill/Oregon:
What a classy choice in a double. Edouard Foa would be proud.

I think we rely on velocity too much today. The heavy for caliber bullets are still the way to go as they were over 100 years ago.

Well said - and it applies to more than just the 303.