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I'm wanting a Doctor dot sight on my Krieghoff .500; at Dallas this past January I talked to a few different booths about it, but can't remember who might be making a base that will replace the factory removable base at the rear of the rib to accommodate the Doctor sight. Can anyone help, or should I simply remove the rear factory base & send it to JJ ? Thanks for your ideas. ____________________________ .470 & 9.3X74R Chapuis' Tikka O/U 9.3X74R Searcy Classics 450/.400 3" & .577 C&H .375 2 1/2" Krieghoff .500 NE Member Dallas Safari Club | ||
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Frank, don't screw with it. Send it to JJ as he has recently received many bases, end of story. While it's there, see if he can do something about that goofy safety.  Dang, I'm in trouble now!!  Deo Vindice, Don Sons of Confederate Veterans Black Horse Camp #780 | |||
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Thanks for your input. Now I'll stir up a storm since you mentioned the safety - I have seven SXS rifles, & my favorite one is the Krieghoff, hands down. ____________________________ .470 & 9.3X74R Chapuis' Tikka O/U 9.3X74R Searcy Classics 450/.400 3" & .577 C&H .375 2 1/2" Krieghoff .500 NE Member Dallas Safari Club | |||
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Frank: I just shot my 500 for the first time with the Doktor Optik. I loved it. It was the right move installing it. | |||
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Larry, did you shoot today and if so, did you try the Trail Boss. If so, what did you think? | |||
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Frank, someone correct me if I am mistaken,the burris fastfire base is very comparable to the dokter sight base,on my K-gun,it took about 50$ to cut the removable wedge,and drill a pilot hole to make the sight work,or you just source a base for the Dr,any gunsmith can fit it,if you need any more info or pics,just PM me. I hunted buff cows in june,and I was very impressed with my k-gun and the 500/416 caliber to say the least!the safety was never an issue,directionally it is the same as any other safety out there,I would put up my k-gun against any other make out there and I also have a few of the other makes. DRSS | |||
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Todd: Yes, I shot 20 target rounds and 8 full power loads . No, I did not shoot the Trail Boss. I plan to do that Sunday. | |||
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Larry, if you remove it and then put it back on, please let us know how well it returns to zero. Also, did you dial it in and if so, was that difficult? Deo Vindice, Don Sons of Confederate Veterans Black Horse Camp #780 | |||
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Don: Let me give you a quick rundown. 1- JJ cut the rib. 2- Due to the delay in getting the bases, he recommended that I get the gun, shoot it and mount the DO myself when the base came in. A direct quote is," Mounting the DO is the exact same thing you do when you change the battery." 3- Adjusting is easy. There are 2 locking screw that have to be loosened as well as 2 adjusting screws. There in no calibration on the DO itself. DO provides you with a small screwdriver and a little round device that you put on the screwdriver to let you know how much you adjusted it. It is simple. I have not taken the DO off as yet. I have to tell you that I believe that I can acquire the target MUCH faster with the DO than I could with conventional sights. | |||
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Thanks Larry! I'm 4 years older than you, so I look forward to seeing how it works. Mine leaves for Enid on Monday.  Deo Vindice, Don Sons of Confederate Veterans Black Horse Camp #780 | |||
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Has anybody used EOTech sights on a double rifle? I see a lot of mention using the Doctor sights. EOTech seems to dominate in the tactical world. What advantages does the Doctor sight have over the EOTech? Just curious. =+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+= DRSS; NRA; Illinois State Rifle Association; Missouri Sport Shooting Association “One of the sad signs of our times is that we have demonized those who produce, subsidized those who refuse to produce, and canonized those who complain.” – Thomas Sowell, “The Vision Of The Anointed: Self-Congratulation As A Basis For Social Policy” . | |||
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And Frank, there's a Bull Ele up in the Caprivi waiting for 2013. I believe he has a big "K" on his forehead. | |||
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It'll either be the Krieghoff or the Searcy .577 - still trying to decide. Also, a hippo. I have to redeem myself from mistakes made in Dande North in 2010. ____________________________ .470 & 9.3X74R Chapuis' Tikka O/U 9.3X74R Searcy Classics 450/.400 3" & .577 C&H .375 2 1/2" Krieghoff .500 NE Member Dallas Safari Club | |||
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OOOOOOOOOH! I forgot the 577. That gets my vote....short walks and big booms! | |||
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scojac The EOTech is a great combat sight, but way to big and heavy for a double rifle. The Doctor Optic is just perfect. Also the DO automatically adjusts for the light conditions, and it is on all the time. No buttons to push, no knobs to turn. Batteries last 3 to 5 years I like them so much I have used one on an AR. DOUBLE RIFLE SHOOTERS SOCIETY | |||
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Yea, Frank and they are all Russian Remington's. They shoot great at running game with warped barrels.   Mike  | |||
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I expect to shoot all seven this September. Mike | |||
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I have the EO Tech on an assault rifle. I love it. However, it is much larger, more complex and expensive than the DO. | |||
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I contacted Krieghoff USA in PA, & they will provide & install the DO sight on my Krieghoff, & also provide & install the Break-O recoil reducer in the stock - all for $1,200. Is this a good price ? ____________________________ .470 & 9.3X74R Chapuis' Tikka O/U 9.3X74R Searcy Classics 450/.400 3" & .577 C&H .375 2 1/2" Krieghoff .500 NE Member Dallas Safari Club | |||
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JJ quoted $750 Doctor Optic installed all in. Don't know the value of the reducer installed. Hope this helps. Deo Vindice, Don Sons of Confederate Veterans Black Horse Camp #780 | |||
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I'm a Trijicon fan myself. Does anyone have experience with the RMR? There is also a model that is battery-less using Tritium and Fiber Optics in the same manner as their Accupoint Scopes. From what I understand however, the dot is about twice the size as the battery model. Any thoughts on the Trijicon RMRs? | |||
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Frank, I have three of these sights,I paid 250$ for the last two each,on my K-gun it cost me 50$ to install,a recoil reducer in the stock could be another $300 maybe,I do not think 1200$ is a reasonable price at all
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The dot on the non battery RMR is too big for a hunting rifle IMHO. On a handgun or a shotgun a 7 MOA dot will work. But on a rifle I like a 3.5 to 4 MOA dot. I have shot a Doctor Optic with a 4 MOA dot on 16" steel gongs at 500 yards with a 308, with no problems. DOUBLE RIFLE SHOOTERS SOCIETY | |||
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Agreed. That's why I haven't purchased one yet. Was wondering if anyone else has used the non battery RMR on a DG DR. The 7 MOA dot seems too large for my taste but I just can't get comfortable with the idea of a battery powered sight of any type for use on DG. | |||
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Bill73: Where did you buy your DO sights, & who installed them for you ? ____________________________ .470 & 9.3X74R Chapuis' Tikka O/U 9.3X74R Searcy Classics 450/.400 3" & .577 C&H .375 2 1/2" Krieghoff .500 NE Member Dallas Safari Club | |||
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Todd: The dot on the battery RMR is not too big. I have the 3.25 dot which uses the battery, is light adjustable, and is perfect on my Searcy 450-400. I just shot it yesterday getting ready for my upcoming Zim trip in a couple of weeks and it is sooooo sweet! I can shoot the double with iron sights, my 1.5x5 Leupold with removable Talley base/rings or with the 3.25 RMR. All are sighted at 50 yards. Ivan Carter uses the RMR and would not be without it. Neither would I!  | |||
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UEG, I understand the battery powered RMR has an appropriate sized dot for DG hunting. But I just don't like the idea of having to rely on a battery. Just something else to go wrong at the wrong time ya know? The primary reason I like Trijicon so much is the non battery illumination on the Accupoint models. I wonder if there is technical reason why the non battery RMR has the 7 MOA dot. I can't see that being the case considering the size of the dot on the 3X9X40 model Accupoints that I own. It seems to me that Trijicon could improve their product line by offering 1) A 3 MOA dot RMR that uses tritium and fiber optics without a battery, and 2) An Accupoint model with an intermediate magnification range on the order of 1.5 to 7 or something of that nature. These two items appear to me as glaring holes in their product line. | |||
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Hey Todd: That's true, unfortunately they don't make them in 3.25 MOA in the non battery illuminated, but the fact is they are so easy, so accurate, fast to put on and take off your double and that 3.25 red dot is the perfect size for the DGR. As to the battery problem, those batteries will last a full year, and if you feel that there might be a problem, then take a spare with you. I do that with my Leupold illuminated scopes anyway, and it's no problem. They're very easy to change out even on the RMR and it can be done in a few minutes. Once you have one on your double, you'll wonder how you got along without it. | |||
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My V-C .500 is with JJ at this time for the D.O. install. I still have two questions. Does the D.O. return to zero when taking off and back on? If not, generally how big is the change? Anyone know the answer? Deo Vindice, Don Sons of Confederate Veterans Black Horse Camp #780 | |||
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Todd Williams, I put the Trijicon RMR Dual Illumination sight on my Krieghoff 450/400 NE. 3 in. a couple of years ago, Only weighs 2 oz. Had to make the base myself, Krieghoff was NO HELP at the time. Search previous post here under things like RMR on K-Gun by Tetonka. Pics included. Talked to Trijicon many times, they use the amber dot on the non battery model and said if the dot is smaller (in amber) than 7 moa it tends to disappear or get fuzzy so they won't make it any smaller. As far as I know AMBER is the only dot they offer in the Non Battery model. Any way it works fine, no problem getting on target with my double out to 150 yds. I don't like the battery idea either. Very Happy with my rig. About 400 rounds down range now. Just finished 2 Big Bore shoots in Montana. Sight on Gun was examined by many shooters in attendance. They all liked it and many said they will do the same thing. Hope this helps some. Good Shooting Tetonka DRSS | |||
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Thanks for that report. That's the first report from an actual user of this model I've seen. I'll look into it a bit more. | |||
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