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A little XXX "Gun Porn"
10 May 2010, 03:59
Steve AhrenbergA little XXX "Gun Porn"
OK Guys,
How about a little less arguing and just take a look at some gun porn? I'll show you mine if you show me yours?
This one is my most prized, Armeria De Madrid .500NE Back action sidelock
Regards,
Nganga
Formerly "Nganga"
10 May 2010, 04:00
Cane RatThat buffalo looks almost real, beautiful engraving.
10 May 2010, 04:07
MikeBurkeNganga,
If you ever want to adopt a 46 year old left handed child to leave that double to, I am available.
Very nice indeed. I'd own that !!!
I like the bolsters, they have copied them very well. Often gun makers get them wrong.
Those look like 24" barrels. You'll be stoned for that!

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Will / Once you've been amongst them, there is no such thing as too much gun.
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and, God Bless John Wayne. NRA Benefactor, GOA, NAGR
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"Elephant and Elephant Guns" $99 shipped.
“Hunting Africa's Dangerous Game" $20 shipped.
red.dirt.elephant@gmail.com
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If anything be of note, let it be he was once an elephant hunter, hoping to wind up where elephant hunters go.
quote:
Originally posted by Will:
Those look like 24" barrels. You'll be stoned for that!
Will
I'm dead then, I have a 500 with 22" barrels !!!! LOL
10 May 2010, 04:16
Steve Ahrenbergquote:
Originally posted by Will:
Those look like 24" barrels. You'll be stoned for that!
Will, Will, Will

Formerly "Nganga"
That's some very nice wood on the butt stock! What does it weigh?
Peter.
Be without fear in the face of your enemies. Be brave and upright, that God may love thee. Speak the truth always, even if it leads to your death. Safeguard the helpless and do no wrong;
10 May 2010, 05:05
Steve AhrenbergIts just 10# and it hammers your ass PROPER!
These guys will send you photo's of blanks and you pick your own wood, engraving as well.
Nganga
Formerly "Nganga"
Yup! I would think that a 10 pound 500 NE would be a little on the light side!
Peter.
Be without fear in the face of your enemies. Be brave and upright, that God may love thee. Speak the truth always, even if it leads to your death. Safeguard the helpless and do no wrong;
With those 24 Inch barrels and light weight, I can see why Will would like it.
A beautiful rifle! Thanks for sharing!
Rusty
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10 May 2010, 05:54
Steve Ahrenbergquote:
Originally posted by Rusty:
With those 24 Inch barrels and light weight, I can see why Will would like it.
A beautiful rifle! Thanks for sharing!
Rusty,
Come now, Will still wears wool pants
Nganga
Formerly "Nganga"
Nice scroll work. Churchill pattern it appears. Except for the beavertail fore end and light weight it looks near perfect. What do they run if you don't mind saying?
465H&H
A beauty for sure.
I am no expert nor well versed by any stretch but those are some of the most realistic animal engravings I've ever seen.
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Will / Once you've been amongst them, there is no such thing as too much gun.
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and, God Bless John Wayne. NRA Benefactor, GOA, NAGR
_________________________
"Elephant and Elephant Guns" $99 shipped.
“Hunting Africa's Dangerous Game" $20 shipped.
red.dirt.elephant@gmail.com
_________________________
If anything be of note, let it be he was once an elephant hunter, hoping to wind up where elephant hunters go.
I forgot.
A 10 pound 500 NE. What happy dreams are made of!
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Will / Once you've been amongst them, there is no such thing as too much gun.
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and, God Bless John Wayne. NRA Benefactor, GOA, NAGR
_________________________
"Elephant and Elephant Guns" $99 shipped.
“Hunting Africa's Dangerous Game" $20 shipped.
red.dirt.elephant@gmail.com
_________________________
If anything be of note, let it be he was once an elephant hunter, hoping to wind up where elephant hunters go.
10 May 2010, 06:43
Cane RatHere's mine, a Baikal 45-70 made in Tula, Russia.
Just kidding. It's my Verney-Carron Demas Azur Luxe in .470 NE made in France.
10 May 2010, 07:03
mstarlingSigh ... no way I'm gonna post pics of my utilitarian Searcy and Chapuis following those two.
You guys are blessed with lovelies ... but I must admit that I have tickled to have what I have

Mike
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DRSS, Womper's Club, NRA Life Member/Charter Member NRA Golden Eagles ...
Knifemaker,
http://www.mstarling.com 10 May 2010, 07:08
Steve Ahrenbergquote:
Originally posted by mstarling:
Sigh ... no way I'm gonna post pics of my utilitarian Searcy and Chapuis following those two.
You guys are blessed with lovelies ... but I must admit that I have tickled to have what I have
Mike,
That's why I started this thread, after all the petty bickering about nonsense, I doesn't matter what DR you own, It matters THAT you own
Nganga
Formerly "Nganga"
10 May 2010, 07:11
Cane Ratquote:
Originally posted by Nganga:
quote:
Originally posted by mstarling:
Sigh ... no way I'm gonna post pics of my utilitarian Searcy and Chapuis following those two.
You guys are blessed with lovelies ... but I must admit that I have tickled to have what I have
Mike,
That's why I started this thread, after all the petty bickering about nonsense, I doesn't matter what DR you own, It matters THAT you own
Nganga
+1

10 May 2010, 17:58
Dutch44Nice wood on that Verney-Carron, Cane Rat.
Dutch
11 May 2010, 06:17
Cane Ratquote:
Originally posted by Dutch44:
Nice wood on that Verney-Carron, Cane Rat.
Dutch
Thanks Dutch!
11 May 2010, 06:45
CrazyhorseconsultingGentlemen, Many Thanks for sharing those pictures with us.
Those are the pieces of work that dreams are made of in my mind.
Even the rocks don't last forever.
11 May 2010, 07:44
Jack D BoldIt's my Heym 470, relaxing after a good day at the office.
"You only gotta do one thing well to make it in this world" - J Joplin
11 May 2010, 08:27
Steve AhrenbergDear Jack,
You suck..........

Formerly "Nganga"
11 May 2010, 23:12
BigFiveJackquote:
Originally posted by Nganga:
Dear Jack,
You suck..........

Nganga,
If I'm the Jack you're referring to, thanks for the laugh!
If I'm NOT the Jack you're referring to, thanks for the laugh!
If you're actually seriouly insulting me... nah, that can't be.
This place has only classy people as members.

The rifle is
a real looker, and at 10 pounds for 500 NE it's a "Joy" I'll bet to
lug through Africa's heat in exchange for the energy that it will
deliver to the beast you hunt/shoot. But we must know more:
all dimensions, do you like it's balance, do you really prefer the
beaver tail forend, did you choose NOT to have "hand detach-
able" side locks or were they not offered, how long from when
you ordered it till it was in hand, is there an English version of
the company's web site, and of course pricing parameters for
the rifle with various options. Let's go, get to it, we're all wait-
ing to soak it all up!
Jack
OH GOD! {Seriously, we need the help.}
12 May 2010, 08:09
Steve AhrenbergDear Jack 2,
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It was obviously tongue in cheek
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It's a handful
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Last buffalo, 6 shots and three bleeding molars (mine)
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Beaver tail sounds so "Manly"
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Splinter sounds.....well.....homo
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I ordered it in Reno 2006, delivered a week after Reno 2007.
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Balance, well it usually knocks me off balance
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Love it, paid around 35K now with the dollar decrease and them being better known about 62.5K
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Really, Really good guys and service, three guys that do Reno build entire gun. Any option you like, can't tell you about hand det.?? email them they will respond. There is a "translate" button on their website upper right hand corner.

Always tongue in cheek
Nganga
Formerly "Nganga"
12 May 2010, 08:27
Steve AhrenbergJack,
BTW I have a Charles Osborne 450 400 3.25 as well, only mine has the proper length barrels.

Nganga
Formerly "Nganga"
12 May 2010, 12:58
Andre MertensEngraving (signed by José Baerten, ex-master engraver at FN) of my FN-Browning CCS25 in 9,3x74R
NB : arrows show the hollow gas screws (to divert gas away from shooter in case of a ruptured case).
Engraving (signed by P. Arno) of my FN-Browning B25 "Spécial Chasse" in 12 ga.
André
DRSS
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3 shots do not make a group, they show a point of aim or impact.
5 shots are a group.
12 May 2010, 18:46
Idaho SharpshooterI'm quite pleased with my two "Entry Level" doubles; Chapuis 9,3x74R and Searcy .470 NE. They have been to Africa since I acquired them, and work well for anything but long shots. 200 yards is plenty to shoot for me.
The Searcy weighs 10lbs 10oz, and the Chapuis, including factory mounts, rings, and Leupold is a trim 8lbs 4oz. I'll get some pics in.
Beautiful DRs, by the way; all of them.
Rich
DRSS
I recognize the pics of that 500 Niro....showed up on my computer a while back.

STILL looks nice!
Gary
DRSS
NRA Lifer
SCI
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13 May 2010, 01:30
Steve AhrenbergHey Gary,
Bad Penny you know?
Formerly "Nganga"
13 May 2010, 01:42
Dave BushCane Rat:
I really, really like that VC! I wanted to look them over and handle a few but when I was back in PA this spring, Ken was in France at the factory.
Can you tell me a little about the gun? Is that the standard wood or did you do a wood upgrade? What does it weigh?
Dave
DRSS
Chapuis 9.3X74
Chapuis "Jungle" .375 FL
Krieghoff 500/.416 NE
Krieghoff 500 NE
"Git as close as y can laddie an then git ten yards closer"
"If the biggest, baddest animals on the planet are on the menu, and you'd rather pay a taxidermist than a mortician, consider the 500 NE as the last word in life insurance." Hornady Handbook of Cartridge Reloading (8th Edition).
13 May 2010, 02:00
Cane Ratquote:
Originally posted by Dave Bush:
Cane Rat:
I really, really like that VC! I wanted to look them over and handle a few but when I was back in PA this spring, Ken was in France at the factory.
Can you tell me a little about the gun? Is that the standard wood or did you do a wood upgrade? What does it weigh?
Hi Dave,
Thanks! It weighs 9 lbs 14 oz which is about perfect for me but some may like it a little heavier, it fits me so well recoil isn't a problem. It has ejectors and 24" bbls (actually a shade less but close to 24", they denote them in metric).
Yes, the wood is upgraded, it is what they call 4 Stars, it has some other upgrades as well; full length tangs top and bottom, steel grip cap with compartment, gold inlay and teardrops on the buttstock, and moustache reinforcements on the receiver. I really like these guns, I think they are a lot of gun for the money and Ken will treat you right.

13 May 2010, 02:51
Dave BushVery, very nice and you are right, I think the VC is the best buy on the market right now. It's the closest thing we regular guys can come to a "bespoke" rifle. I don't have any experience with a Holland & Holland but I think VC has fashioned the looks of their gun after the H&H Royal.
Dave
DRSS
Chapuis 9.3X74
Chapuis "Jungle" .375 FL
Krieghoff 500/.416 NE
Krieghoff 500 NE
"Git as close as y can laddie an then git ten yards closer"
"If the biggest, baddest animals on the planet are on the menu, and you'd rather pay a taxidermist than a mortician, consider the 500 NE as the last word in life insurance." Hornady Handbook of Cartridge Reloading (8th Edition).
13 May 2010, 04:25
Cane Ratquote:
Originally posted by Dave Bush:
Very, very nice and you are right, I think the VC is the best buy on the market right now. It's the closest thing we regular guys can come to a "bespoke" rifle. I don't have any experience with a Holland & Holland but I think VC has fashioned the looks of their gun after the H&H Royal.
You know you really have to wonder if you will be able to buy these rifles for the kind of prices they are selling for now a few years down the road. I just think that as they become more well known prices will escalate.
Here's a neat video if you are interested.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...Fb_Q&feature=related13 May 2010, 08:11
BigFiveJackquote:
Originally posted by Nganga:
Jack,
BTW I have a Charles Osborne 450 400 3.25 as well, only mine has the proper length barrels.

Nganga
What's it weigh, bbl length???
Jack
OH GOD! {Seriously, we need the help.}
13 May 2010, 08:22
Steve Ahrenbergquote:
Originally posted by BigFiveJack:
quote:
Originally posted by Nganga:
Jack,
BTW I have a Charles Osborne 450 400 3.25 as well, only mine has the proper length barrels.

Nganga
What's it weigh, bbl length???
Its 10# as well with 24" barrels. How old is yours ya figure?
Nganga
Formerly "Nganga"
14 May 2010, 04:56
BigFiveJackPre WW-II I am convinced, but who knows if it's even Pre WW-
I ?
That's a nice weight at 10 pounds flat for this caliber.
Jack
OH GOD! {Seriously, we need the help.}
14 May 2010, 06:49
Steve AhrenbergJack,
By the address on the rib, mine was built between 1892 and 1908. Without going and looking at it, I think it's 2 Great Scotland Yard. They moved to 10 York Building in 1909. Again this is all from memory so I may be off a year or two and a digit or so on the address.
I'll take a photo of it and post it up when I get a chance.
Nganga
Formerly "Nganga"
14 May 2010, 17:31
Dave BushCane Rat:
I think you mentioned that your VC regulated with about 106 grains of IMR 4831. I am guessing that would give you about 2150 fps out of the 24 inch barrel. If you order a VC, can you ask that it be regulated to the old standard with Kynoch ammo instead which would regulate around 2000 fps from the same barrel length? Also, can you ask that the rifle be built to a certain weight?
VC makes a 9.3X74 double with a Holland & Holland "filet". Can anyone tell me what that is?
Dave
DRSS
Chapuis 9.3X74
Chapuis "Jungle" .375 FL
Krieghoff 500/.416 NE
Krieghoff 500 NE
"Git as close as y can laddie an then git ten yards closer"
"If the biggest, baddest animals on the planet are on the menu, and you'd rather pay a taxidermist than a mortician, consider the 500 NE as the last word in life insurance." Hornady Handbook of Cartridge Reloading (8th Edition).