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09 June 2013, 04:37
N E 450 No2
Interesting Rifle
quote:
Originally posted by Blaserguy:
In regards to the sights, how common were this set up?
If you will pardon my re-direct but I am fascinated by the various open sights that have been devised over the years. Rifles that have been "sighted in" for eternity based on a load started my fascination with open sights



I have seen those Ladder sights on several different older oouble rifles. Including a couple of 450/400 NE rifles.
No doubt that type of sight was intended for use mostly in India where there was a fair amount of hunting in the hill country, where longer shots might be taken.

Even my 450/400 3 1/4 NE double rifle has a standing leaf for 50 yards and then folding leaves for 100, 200, 300, and 400 yards.

I have shot the rifle as far as 300 yards, all the leaves are spot on at their inscribed distances. I have not tried the 400 yard leaf..yet.


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09 June 2013, 06:23
Todd Williams
Hell Tony, I don't think I could see 400 yards without a scope!
09 June 2013, 11:45
jvw375
Gents,

Sorry for the belated reply but I've been out hunting and had eland and hartebeest on my mind rather than exotic double rifles.

I have a copy of the Westley Richards book and the rifle in question is featured there. The description of it is rather sparse - it's described as a .303 that's "possibly experimental".

I have to give full marks to some of you guys for inventiveness for your guesses regarding the rifle, though! I had to giggle when I read through this thread!
09 June 2013, 11:50
505G
Does it say what year it was made ?


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09 June 2013, 21:17
jvw375
The caption in the book (pages 114-115) reads as follows:

"An unusual, perhaps experimental .303 side lock double rifle, Gun T230."

As Mac (I think) mentioned, WR's records tends to be sparse at times.
18 June 2013, 19:43
Rusty
Did anyone get to see the flats?


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20 June 2013, 22:35
Tim Carney
quote:
Originally posted by MacD37:

I certainly could be wrong, But I think this rifle is Westley Richards made and that fact alone could account for the difference in the pin positions when compared to a Rigby, or H&H. One other thing may be that the WR rifle is a BACK ACTION lock, and Most H&H and Rigbys are BAR ACTION side locks.


Believe Mac, that you are correct that Rigby rifles are most (all?) bar action sidelocks, but H&H rifles are most/all back action sidelocks as is the case with my 1904 500/450.

Must add, 'tho, that I not as sure about those rifles H&H was buying from Webley in the days before they began making their own... My .303 H&H double, finished in Dec. 1897 has the same sort of lower grade two-piece back action lock, but with seven pins laid out very differently.

Regards, Tim