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17 April 2013, 03:09
Todd WilliamsMost Valuable
Hmmm ... Which of these is worth the most right now? The Ivory, the VC 500NE double gun, or 5 brand spanking new canisters of RL-15!!
Santa just left the Williams residence. He was driving a brown panel truck!!
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17 April 2013, 03:37
jorgeWHere did U get that??? I've been looking for some for a month now!!!
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17 April 2013, 03:59
BiebsTodd, in a 577, you'd be looking at maybe 12 rounds :-)
17 April 2013, 04:08
DoubleDonHey Todd, I guess I've been out of the loop. I always bought the 5# jugs. Only have 3 full ones left in inventory. Honestly, is there a shortage?
Deo Vindice,
Don
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17 April 2013, 04:12
fla3006quote:
jorge: WHere did U get that?
And if you don't mind, how much? Powder was going for about $30-$35/lb in general at the F-burg gun show.
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17 April 2013, 04:13
LionHunterThe value of each is incumbent upon an individuals perspective, need and how much he is willing to pay! Glad you found some RL-15 for your 500NE (and someone who would ship/deliver it)!
It could be argued that you couldn't get the ivory without the VC 500NE and you couldn't use the DR with out ammo properly loaded with the RL-15 powder!

Therefore, based upon the theory of first event, the most valuable is the RL-15 powder.
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17 April 2013, 04:29
Todd Williams
Christmas!!
A good fellow who posts here on AR put me on to the powder. He has probably already seen the post so I'll let him make the offer if there is more. But suffice it to say, it was not easy to find. I've had feelers out for about 3 months now. Several of the other places are supposed to notify me if they get any in and I'll gladly pass along that info for anyone still needing any once I hear from them.
I had found 2 5lb kegs on GunBroker about a month ago but they were already over $300 each with 4 days remaining on the auction. These canisters were well priced at $28.99 each, plus the $39.99 Hazmat fee.
I'll let you guys know if I find some more.
17 April 2013, 04:44
jorgeThanks Todd, I would appreciate if you come across some. jorge
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17 April 2013, 04:54
BaxterBAl I know is ain't give up my 4 lbs of it, nor my H4350 either....good grief it's ridiculous out there...
17 April 2013, 05:07
DoubleDonI'm going to a couple "events" soon. I'll be happy to bird dog for y'all and report.
Deo Vindice,
Don
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17 April 2013, 05:44
Todd WilliamsDon, I sure the guys would appreciate it. Finding RL-15 right now is about hard as getting the truth out of Obamma.
17 April 2013, 05:46
DoubleDonWow, I had no clue. I'll keep an eye out for sure.
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17 April 2013, 06:44
Ed ScarboroI was in a small shop in Kernersville, NC today and they had a pound or two of RL15 along with RL17 & 22. They also had a number of cans of Varget which I have not seen in several months. I also bought several pounds of CFE powder while I was there.
17 April 2013, 06:50
pagosawingnutI tried to ship a shipment of powder to Butch Searcy and somehow,it got "damaged in transit" with all the evidence (merchandise) destroyed. Last time I try to ship powder. Lost 16 lbs of hard to find powder. Good for you Todd.
17 April 2013, 07:53
Todd Williamsquote:
Originally posted by DoubleDon:
Wow, I had no clue. I'll keep an eye out for sure.
Yeah Don, it's quite the commodity right now and has been for 6 months or so. Maybe longer but like you, I wasn't looking for it prior to that. Hell, I wasn't tuned into the severity of ammo and component shortages until trying to purchase a box of 22LR about 3 months ago. That was a HUGE wake up call. Why the hell is 22LR ammo impossible to find?
If they can't take our guns, they'll settle for taking the ammo as the next best thing.
If you read the factory description on RL-15, it is one of the "official" powders selected for military loadings in the 5.56. Therefore, it's just damn near impossible to find it. Anyone who comes across it, I'd suggest making the purchase, assuming you load the NE rounds with it.
17 April 2013, 08:46
malekquote:
Originally posted by Todd Williams:
Hmmm ... Which of these is worth the most right now? The Ivory, the VC 500NE double gun, or 5 brand spanking new canisters of RL-15!!
Santa just left the Williams residence. He was driving a brown panel truck!!
Hey Todd; funny you should post, while I was driving today I thought wondering if you have received the powder by now. Good for you, I thought Santa only visited around Christmas, did he drop it through the chimney?

By the way do you use that elephant drawing in the back ground to practice your front brain shots?

Best regards
Malek
Good shooting/hunting and God's best.
Best regards
Malek
Good Hunting/Shooting and God's best.
17 April 2013, 18:52
jorgeFound some men!
RL-15
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17 April 2013, 19:40
malekquote:
Originally posted by Todd Williams:

Christmas!!
A good fellow who posts here on AR put me on to the powder. He has probably already seen the post so I'll let him make the offer if there is more. But suffice it to say, it was not easy to find. I've had feelers out for about 3 months now. Several of the other places are supposed to notify me if they get any in and I'll gladly pass along that info for anyone still needing any once I hear from them.
I had found 2 5lb kegs on GunBroker about a month ago but they were already over $300 each with 4 days remaining on the auction. These canisters were well priced at $28.99 each, plus the $39.99 Hazmat fee.
I'll let you guys know if I find some more.
Todd; thanks for the nice gesture, I just read the rest of the post.
I will be glad to help anyone in need for some RL-15, that is if my source still have more or able to get more.
Best regards
Malek
Best regards
Malek
Good Hunting/Shooting and God's best.
17 April 2013, 20:24
Huviusquote:
Originally posted by jorge:
Found some men!
RL-15
Perfect! Thanks!
Looks to be just about the only powder they have. Hope it isn't a glitch...
17 April 2013, 22:45
pagosawingnutJorge,
Thanks for the tip. When I set up an account with them, they still showed it in stock and I ordered all they would let me order. I appreciate it!

18 April 2013, 02:15
jorgeGreat folks, one of the great things about this place, we help each other out!
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18 April 2013, 08:29
pagosawingnutAin't that the truth my friend. Lots of really good, like minded people on this site. As I said, I appreciate the tip.
18 April 2013, 18:14
Todd Williamsquote:
Originally posted by jorge:
Great folks, one of the great things about this place, we help each other out!
Really the only thing keeping me around these days.
Since he posted about it, I'll name him. Malek is the fine fellow who helped me out with finding the powder. Malek and I have gone at each other pretty hard with some debates, but we always kept it civil and respectful. As a result, I really respect and like the fellow. I wish the forum at large was like that. It could be with proper moderation, but that's someone else's call.
So how about 3 cheers for Malek and Jorge for helping out their buds!
21 April 2013, 04:33
DoubleDonHip Hip X3 for Malek and Jorge! BTW, went to a gun show yesterday (before open to the public

). No RL15 in sight.
Malek, are you going to the Southern Side by Side next weekend in Sanford, NC?
Deo Vindice,
Don
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21 April 2013, 04:46
lavacaCongrats on getting your powder. Some of my ammo backorders are starting to trickle in. Nothing to celebrate like your delivery, however.
21 April 2013, 04:49
retreeverThe artist who drew on the floor.
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21 April 2013, 08:30
Todd Williamsquote:
Originally posted by retreever:
The artist who drew on the floor.
Mike
Mike,
Are you asking who did the elephant?
If so, I don't remember his name. Our house has a travel theme throughout as I was a pilot and my wife a flight attendent. No, we met in college, not on a plane. Anyway, the first floor has all stained concrete floors, a copy of the lodge we stayed in on my first safari to RSA. We had this ele sculpted into the floor of the trophy room. Have a compass row sculpted into the floor in the main living room, and a wooden compass row on the landings of both wooden stair cases.
Anyway, he did a pretty good job with the ele. If I remember correctly, he took the ele picture on the cover of Boddington's "The Africa Experience", sketched it out, put in on an overhead projector like back in school, projected it onto the floor and went after it with a sand blasting pen.
21 April 2013, 15:19
PD999quote:
Originally posted by Todd Williams:
I wish the forum at large was like that. It could be with proper moderation, but that's someone else's call.
+1

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22 April 2013, 10:51
malekquote:
Originally posted by DoubleDon:
Hip Hip X3 for Malek and Jorge! BTW, went to a gun show yesterday (before open to the public

). No RL15 in sight.
Malek, are you going to the Southern Side by Side next weekend in Sanford, NC?
Thanks Don:
I haven’t heard much about it, didn't see any advertisement either, do you have any info, a link?
My brother in law is visiting from overseas, I am not sure if I can get him interested in going, if so I will be there, God willing.
Best regards
Malek
Good shooting/hunting and God's best.
Best regards
Malek
Good Hunting/Shooting and God's best.
22 April 2013, 12:15
DoubleDonHi Malek. No DR shoot this year but still a fun event.
http://southernsidebyside.com/index.php?id=3
Deo Vindice,
Don
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22 April 2013, 20:26
SnowwolfeGood grief, I had no idea powder was so difficult to find. Brought 80-85 pounds with me from Alaska so hopefully will be good to go for the next 18 months of so. I tried to sell off my RL 15 and 17 as well as 20 pounds of IMR 4831 in Alaska for $25 a pound because I thought I would have problems getting into Canada with it but could not sell one pound of it. Thank heavens for the lack of interest in Alaska. Border guards never even asked us if we had any.
My biggest fear is when I die my wife will sell my guns for what I told her they cost.
22 April 2013, 21:38
pagosawingnutSnowwolfe,
If you still want to sell the IMR4831, let me know. One of the powders I use.

22 April 2013, 23:04
michael458quote:
Originally posted by pagosawingnut:
Jorge,
Thanks for the tip. When I set up an account with them, they still showed it in stock and I ordered all they would let me order. I appreciate it!
I have to chip in my "Thank Yous" as well, Original for Jorge and Malek, and then from Rick as well as he passed it to me.......
I got a few lbs on the way as well..........
Thanks.........
Michael
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22 April 2013, 23:49
Snowwolfequote:
Originally posted by pagosawingnut:
Snowwolfe,
If you still want to sell the IMR4831, let me know. One of the powders I use.
After carrying it 3,500 miles think I'll hang onto it

But if you find your self in desparate need of some shoot me a pm. IMR 4831 is my go to powder for both my 450/400 and 450 NE.
My biggest fear is when I die my wife will sell my guns for what I told her they cost.
23 April 2013, 00:14
pagosawingnutI was just pickin at ya. I've got what I consider to be plenty. Bet you're glad you held onto it now...

23 April 2013, 02:27
Todd WilliamsOrdered some additional RL-15 myself today. Good to see some items starting to trickle back into the supply stream.
quote:
Originally posted by Todd Williams:
Ordered some additional RL-15 myself today. Good to see some items starting to trickle back into the supply stream.
And now they are out of RL-15 too.
I hit all the shops locally.
Grabbed the last 3 pounds of Retumbo yesterday in Elizabethtown, KY.
Grand Opening day at Cabela's in Louisville, KY on 4-11-13,
I got the last pound of H4895 they had, and it was the only powder in the place on my shopping list.
Last Saturday at Whittaker Guns, Owensboro KY, I bought an 8-pound jug of Lil'Gun just because it was there.

24 April 2013, 12:40
209jonesThere was a post on Accurate Shooter yesterday, saying these guys had RL powders, specifically RL15
http://store.thirdgenerationsh...owse.cfm/2,3612.htmlHow much they have left now----???
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