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Ground muzzles may very well be the "primary reason for Sabatti's price point" but it is also the very thing giving them and Cabelas a Black Eye over this issue! It is also the reason I'm not buying one yet! With that attitude, possibly never! It sounds from that response that they have yet to learn their lesson on cutting corners! I really hope that response came from one of the floor "helpers" and not one of the Gun Library staff who are supposedly firearms "experts". | |||
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The response came for the "Internet Content Provider" for the Gun Library whatever that equates to. Eric NRA Benefactor TSRA Life DRSS Brno ZP-149 45-120 NE | |||
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Not too sure I would include the word "effective" in their as it seems that even those regulated by the "ground" method don't always shoot. I'm not saying "most" because we are more likely to hear of non shooters than shooters. Previously 500N with many thousands of posts ! | |||
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At the NRA expo in St. Louis this year, Cabela's had Sabattis on display. They looked nice but upon asking the rep about regulation and muzzle grinding he just gave a bullshit reply about not having problems except in rare cases and then he walked away. Denial. | |||
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I don't know about "not much more" My Chapuis, while not outrageously expensive, IMO, was significantly more expensive than my Sabatti. 8,500 is several times more money than what I spent. And frankly, out of the price range of many people who would otherwise enjoy a double. Had I purchased the 9.3x74R instead of the 45-70, I have a feeling that I'd have all the gun I have in my Chapuis. We've falsely inflated the price of some doubles, and Sabatti proved it. Only Angels and Aviators have wings | |||
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The US market inflated the price of doubles, until you lot decided they were the must have thing, prices were OK for years, rising slightly as most items of this nature do. Once US buyers jumped on the buying wagon, prices sky rocketed as people saw the money to be made. And re Sabatti, well, all they proved was a lesson in how to ruin a brand name by cutting corners and rushing a product to market that wanted a cheap double but not that cheap that it didn't work. They would have sold more in the long term if it was only $1000 more but regulated properly. . Previously 500N with many thousands of posts ! | |||
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No, they proved what Bikal had started. That doubles do not have to be super expensive. Now I agree, had they spent another 600-1000 per gun, and regulated the rest of them the right way, they'd have done much better. But that would still put them at 3-4K and a hell of an entry level double. The simple fact is, the price of todays "entry" level doubles, namely Merkel, and Chapuis, is out of the price range of alot of people who would otherwise own them. Sabatti, and Bakial have proven that the only reason that is, is because people (namely us double rifle owners) are willing to pay a premium for them. Only Angels and Aviators have wings | |||
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For just a bit more money I think I would invest in a 120 year old lower end BPE and revel in real workmanship while hunting non dangerous game. | |||
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Might have some interest in one of these in 9.3 X 74R? What/where would I start looking for one? Read an article on this gun in August issue of Peterson's Hunting Magazine. Thanks. Larry Sellers | |||
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What / where would I start looking for one? Cabelas. I think they may show on line on their web site. . Previously 500N with many thousands of posts ! | |||
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Larry, take a good light and a magnifying glass and perhaps a few white cardboard wads to slip into the muzzle and reflect the light, then look for properly round and unground muzzle crowns. Then check the test target. That's what I expect to do. The Gun Library staff can be very UNhelpful, so be prepared to do the work yourself. There is hope, even when your brain tells you there isn’t. – John Green, author | |||
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Maybe Sabatti is simply ahead of the pack and they will all 'Dremel Regulate' in the future? .... sorry.... A day spent in the bush is a day added to your life Hunt Australia - Website Hunt Australia - Facebook Hunt Australia - TV | |||
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Thanks Matt!! Larry Sellers | |||
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