Does anyone have any info on makers of small bore doubles (ie 8x57 or such). I have been looking, but the smallest I see is 9.3x74r. Looking for a SxS NOT o/u. Any info would be great.

Thanks

I would have thought you would find a 375 2 1/2
around.

Also, what quality level are you after ?

old English ?
Manton
H&H

Or modern built ?

You can usually find small bores from European makers. Merkel and Krieghoff come to mind, Suhl GmBh also. If you access the German language websites search for "waffen" and "dopple buchse". That translates to guns and double rifles.

Almost all makers offer the smaller cartridges

Give Dale Nygaard a call. I ordered my Chapuis UGEX in 30R Blaser from him. Fantastic small rifle. He also sells once fired brass for .50 each or you can buy new brass from Huntingtons.

UGEX's can be had in the following calibers:
9,3x74 R - 8x57 JRS - 7x65 R
30.06 Optional - 30 R Blaser Optional

I've got a new Chapuis in 9.3 you can have cheap; that is small enough for a double rifle.

I have Chapuis doubles in 9.3x74R and 30R Blaser, and I love both of them.

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Originally posted by DPM:
Does anyone have any info on makers of small bore doubles (ie 8x57 or such). I have been looking, but the smallest I see is 9.3x74r. Looking for a SxS NOT o/u. Any info would be great.

Thanks

As Ken Buch (Kebco) said, virtually all of the modern DR manufacturers have 7x and 8x calibers in SxS doubles.

I have reamers for Verney-Carron to build a 240NE for me as soon as I accumulate the funds.

Buy this one so it will stop tempting me!

http://www.gunbroker.com/Aucti....aspx?Item=316941432

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Originally posted by BayouBob:
Buy this one so it will stop tempting me!

http://www.gunbroker.com/Aucti....aspx?Item=316941432

Thats a great price for that rifle. A step above the UGEX. With a new UGEX going for about $4,500 it's a steal.

Thanks guys. Looking at some possibilites

And in a great calibre also.

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Originally posted by Snowwolfe:

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Originally posted by BayouBob:
Buy this one so it will stop tempting me!

http://www.gunbroker.com/Aucti....aspx?Item=316941432

Thats a great price for that rifle. A step above the UGEX. With a new UGEX going for about $4,500 it's a steal.

A step above the UGEX? Really? I'm sorry but that wood doesn't compare to the UGEX. Ken at Kebco makes some really great deals as the UGEX price you quoted is spot on, but I think the wood on that gun is quite plain.

My mistake then. I thought the Progress model was a step up on the UGEX if you are comparing Chapuis models.

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Originally posted by Todd Williams:
... I think the wood on that gun is quite plain ...

Yes, this seemingly three-dimensional grain's dark, longitudinal figure overlaid with diagonal stripes and then fiddleback light rays just doesn't cut the mustard - and the fore end looks to have come from somewhere else!

On my next rifle I want '... Those Pans and Nymphs ye wot of, and perchance
Some tripod, thyrsus, with a vase or so,
The Saviour at his sermon on the mount,
Saint Praxed in a glory, and one Pan
Ready to twitch the Nymph's last garment off,
And Moses with the tables ...'

if your looking for a decent sxs hammer gun at a reasonable price you might look at a pedersoli 8x57r.

Looks like the fancy beautiful wood in the most recent post above is a 4x grade, which is a several hundred dollar extra cost option. Standard UGEX wood is 3x grade and is usually much more figured than the one in the gunbroker ad.

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Originally posted by Todd Williams:

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Originally posted by Snowwolfe:

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Originally posted by BayouBob:
Buy this one so it will stop tempting me!

http://www.gunbroker.com/Aucti....aspx?Item=316941432

Thats a great price for that rifle. A step above the UGEX. With a new UGEX going for about $4,500 it's a steal.

A step above the UGEX? Really? I'm sorry but that wood doesn't compare to the UGEX. Ken at Kebco makes some really great deals as the UGEX price you quoted is spot on, but I think the wood on that gun is quite plain.

Please accept my apologies, Todd. On re-reading, I realise you were talking about the prosaic stock on the Gunbroker site, not the beautiful one in the vignetted photo.

Yes, the Gunbroker stock is plain. One pic even looks as though they raised the grain and forgot to sand it down again.

- Paul

I have one and it makes a nice pig gun for sure.

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Originally posted by usps:
if your looking for a decent sxs hammer gun at a reasonable price you might look at a pedersoli 8x57r.

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Originally posted by sambarman338:

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Originally posted by Todd Williams:

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Originally posted by Snowwolfe:

quote:

Originally posted by BayouBob:
Buy this one so it will stop tempting me!

http://www.gunbroker.com/Aucti....aspx?Item=316941432

Thats a great price for that rifle. A step above the UGEX. With a new UGEX going for about $4,500 it's a steal.

A step above the UGEX? Really? I'm sorry but that wood doesn't compare to the UGEX. Ken at Kebco makes some really great deals as the UGEX price you quoted is spot on, but I think the wood on that gun is quite plain.

Please accept my apologies, Todd. On re-reading, I realise you were talking about the prosaic stock on the Gunbroker site, not the beautiful one in the vignetted photo.

Yes, the Gunbroker stock is plain. One pic even looks as though they raised the grain and forgot to sand it down again.

- Paul

I thought maybe you were being sarcastic!

The gun in the picture above is mine and IIRC, I paid $4,500 for it sans the scope. The price on the gunbroker rifle seems high to me considering the quality of wood one can get on these guns for the same price.

Yes, Todd, sheepishly I admit being in a bit of a hurry that day and thought you were referring to the rifle in the big picture. Since that was an extremely good-looking stock, I thought only hyperbole could top it.

At the Dallas show last year I handled a Chapuis in 303 Brit that I was sorely tempted by.

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Originally posted by Marty:
At the Dallas show last year I handled a Chapuis in 303 Brit that I was sorely tempted by.

Who had that? Chapuis told me they were not interested in chambering the 303 when I asked.

Ken-
I was getting measured at the Chapuis booth for a rifle Bailey Bradshaw is building for me. I was quite certain it was a Chapuis rifle, but I've been wrong before.

Must have been another maker, Chapuis does not have a booth of their own at Dallas

Ken-
I believe I met you at the booth, and got measured by a French guy whose name escapes me. Sorry, didn't mean to hijack the thread.

That could be. I did have two different Verney-Carron 303's last Jan in Dallas.

Marty, yes, if you went to the V-C booth (which you did ;-) )to get measured by the French for a Bailey Bradshaw gun. Quite honestly, that took alot of nerve for you (to go there) and Baily (to send you there) to take the time of another maker . Just stating fact. With all do respect, doesn't Baily (the "gun maker") know how to measure for fit?

That is OK, I will sell Marty a V-C next time. Doubles are addictive and I am sure he will get another one down the road.

Yes! It was a V-C! Basically, Bailey said he had a relationship with those folks, and that they would measure me. I still think about that 303, glad to be corrected as to the maker.
The 303 seems a natural, being a rimmed cartridge.
That rifle was one of the sweetest handling doubles I have ever touched.

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Originally posted by DPM:
Does anyone have any info on makers of small bore doubles (ie 8x57 or such). I have been looking, but the smallest I see is 9.3x74r. Looking for a SxS NOT o/u. Any info would be great.

Thanks

I just listed a really really nice Merkel 141 in 7x57R on Gunsinternational. Take a look, it has some great wood and is case colored, an extractor gun.

There are quite a number of doubles out there. Just depends what you want. When I went looking this spring, I just googled the mfgr's names, then started getting specific about the models I was interested in. I ended up ordering a Kreighoff in 30R Blaser. I could have picked up (still can) a Chapuis for less than half of the K-gun, but, no scope mounts on it. And I wanted 3 leaf irons on it.
Just have to figure out what features you want, what brand offers those features and turns your crank.

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Originally posted by Kebco:
That is OK, I will sell Marty a V-C next time. Doubles are addictive and I am sure he will get another one down the road.

And that is an example of good business sense!