Forgive me if this is an ignorant question, but is it possible to have a true splinter fore-end made for a Krieghoff double? Is there some design feature of the barrels and/or front of the receiver that would prevent this?

Sure, my K 9.3 has one. Nothing but wood up there.

Pretty close to one already. If you took the minor schanable off of it, it would be pretty close.

Ed

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Originally posted by 505ED:
Pretty close to one already. If you took the minor schanable off of it, it would be pretty close.

Ed

How is it close to one already? I was under the impression that a true splinter forearm was more narrow than the barrels. All the Krieghoff doubles I've seen had forearms where the wood came up on the sides of the barrels, similar to a beaver tail.

Most Ks have large beavertail foreends that wrap around the barrels. They look thin in pictures but they are quite wide.
I will get you a pic tomorrow of a standard one and a thin one.

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Originally posted by dpcd:
Most Ks have large beavertail foreends that wrap around the barrels. They look thin in pictures but they are quite wide.
I will get you a pic tomorrow of a standard one and a thin one.

I understand the difference. I have handled several Krieghoffs....all of which had the beavertail fore-end. I don't care for it, hence why I am asking about the splinter forearm.

Rasp off the extra wood and rechecker it. I don't like it either. My response was for 505 who said they were close. They ain't.
Do you want a picture of the small one from my 9.3?

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Originally posted by dpcd:
Rasp off the extra wood and rechecker it. I don't like it either. My response was for 505 who said they were close. They ain't.
Do you want a picture of the small one from my 9.3?

Absolutely....I'd love to see it.

Well I have owned a double rifle or two. True my first Watson brothers English gun had a very short splinter for end. The k guns is not overly large and just a little longer, than an adv forend. A true beaver tail forend wraps up round the side and is also round and deep. My uncle has a WR 500 that has a classic beaver tail forend. I will post some pics.

Ed

Of course, I know that you know your foreends. The K ones are not very deep so from the side they look like splinters with a schnabel. But from the top and bottom, they are beavertails, wrapping around the sides of the barrels, half way up. The big one is from a 450-400 and the small one is from a 9.3; Krieghoff uses the same frame for everything so the fore-end hangers are the same. Note than even the 9.3 one wraps up around the barrels a bit as well. (I am refinishing the 9.3 one which is why it is blotchy) It would be easy to make on a true splinter as long as you can checker.

To me, to be a true "splinter", the wood can't extend above the frame height, and the amount of wood underneath must be minimal; I guess everyone has his own definition of that. Here is a K, which the wood wraps around the barrels. Last is a Searcy, which is getting there. Chapuis is one which has a very large foreend and they will not make a smaller one. I asked them. [URL=http://s914.photobucket.com/user/dpcd67/media/DSC02776_zpse2a6fc9e.jpg.html]

Thanks for the pics "dpcd"....

Do you think there is enough room on the K-gun forearm to actually shorten it, removing the schnabel altogether?

Of course; nothing up there but wood, BUT, I would slim it up first and shorten it last if you think it needed it. But removing the schnabel would be easy if you don't like it. Note that the Searcy and the Ks have exactly the same length forearms. Notice that little raised wood between the barrels; if you shortened it past that, then well, it wouldn't be there and you would have a little gap between the FE and the bottom rib.

Does anyone know of a stock builder that could build a custom splinter forearm? That way you could have both a splinter and the standard schnabel/beavertail to choose from....

Granted, it will be hard to match the wood, but perhaps you could get close.

Neither of those forends posted above qualify as splinter forends IMO..they are both fat and ugly!

A splinter forend is just what it says it is and that is a splinter, such as on an older English double like a Jefferys, Army-Navy and some older double shotguns..

Anything can be done if you want to spend the money. If you want a new for end I would call JJ Perodeau and make inquierys.
http://www.champlinarms.com/
Bill