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Okay you double rifle gods, I need to identify this rifle that came into a friend of mine. It's chambered in 8 x 57J. It's of German dissent. Please help me figure out what this thing is so I can find out what this things works.    Double Rifles, This is the weapon of a Jedi Knight. Not as clumsy or random as bolt rifle. An elegant weapon for a more civilized age. DRSS Chapuis 9.3x74R NRA Life Member | ||
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It looks like you'd push the underlever forward to open it. Interesting set up. NRA Life ASSRA Life DRSS Today's Quote: Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Give a man a welfare check, a free cell phone with free monthly minutes, food stamps, section 8 housing, a forty ounce malt liquor, a crack pipe and some Air Jordan's and he votes Democrat for a lifetime. | |||
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That's an odd duck, eh? | |||
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It swings! I'm hoping Cal knows! Double Rifles, This is the weapon of a Jedi Knight. Not as clumsy or random as bolt rifle. An elegant weapon for a more civilized age. DRSS Chapuis 9.3x74R NRA Life Member | |||
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I bet you'll have better luck at the doublegunshop.com forum. They like German oddities! NRA Life ASSRA Life DRSS Today's Quote: Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Give a man a welfare check, a free cell phone with free monthly minutes, food stamps, section 8 housing, a forty ounce malt liquor, a crack pipe and some Air Jordan's and he votes Democrat for a lifetime. | |||
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Unique for sure! I've seen similar designs before. I may have a book that has several in it, I'll see what I can find. | |||
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Friedrich Stendebach...I presume. DRSS: HQ Scandinavia. Chapters in Sweden & Norway | |||
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Yep, Stenda Werke Underlever Snap Action from Germany back in the day. Paul Smith SCI Life Member NRA Life Member DSC Member Life Member of the "I Can't Wait to Get Back to Africa" Club DRSS I had the privilege to fire E. Hemingway's WR .577NE, E. Keith's WR .470NE, & F. Jamieson's WJJ .500 Jeffery I strongly recommend avoidance of "The Zambezi Safari & Travel Co., Ltd." and "Pisces Sportfishing-Cabo San Lucas" "A failed policy of national defense is its own punishment" Otto von Bismarck | |||
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Alaskaman11, is the rifle chambered for 8X47JR {.318}or JS {.323}? This could help to age the rifle. As a rule most German made doubles are very well regulated, and most designs are overly strong. The designs are aimed at strength and efficiency, but there seems to be no effort to make them pretty, at least to the non-Germanic eye! I would bet this rifle is very strong, and with proper loads very accurate! I have owned many German made firearms and have never had one that didn't work perfectly, regardless of their looks! I would love to experiment with that rifle, and really study it's make up! Please tell your friend to try to avoid modifying this rifle in any way, because it is a fine example of fitting and design. ..................................................................  ....Mac >>>===(x)===> MacD37, ...and DUGABOY1 DRSS Charter member "If I die today, I've had a life well spent, for I've been to see the Elephant, and smelled the smoke of Africa!"~ME 1982 Hands of Old Elmer Keith  | |||
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It must have markings on the frame and under the barrels. German DRs are well regulated? Not the 1924 Greifelt that I once owned in the 80s. It would not put two barrels within a foot of one another. | |||
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If that rifle was very old that is common, because the old loads they were regulated with developed more or less recoil and velocity than any new load book would indicated. The original powder, and primers being far different than any modern powder it takes a lot of experimentation to find the right powder, load, and bullet weight and shape that works. Many give up in frustration, before they find the sweet spot. Of course it could be that some PLUMBER who thought he was a gunsmith tried to re-regulate it. In that case the only fix is to re-regulate it properly. This is not only on vantage German doubles, and applies equally to fine English doubles as well. About the only vintage German doubles in the USA were brought back from WWII as war souvenirs, and most of the GIs who brought them back had absolutely no idea what they were chambered for, and many have had the barrels reamed out, and chambered for shot gun shells, turning fine double rifles to mediocre shotguns. What a waste. ....Mac >>>===(x)===> MacD37, ...and DUGABOY1 DRSS Charter member "If I die today, I've had a life well spent, for I've been to see the Elephant, and smelled the smoke of Africa!"~ME 1982 Hands of Old Elmer Keith | |||
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It's a 8x57 JS, I stopped off and took a look today! Double Rifles, This is the weapon of a Jedi Knight. Not as clumsy or random as bolt rifle. An elegant weapon for a more civilized age. DRSS Chapuis 9.3x74R NRA Life Member | |||
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Too bad! I've got almost a full case of 8X57 JR here. NRA Life ASSRA Life DRSS Today's Quote: Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Give a man a welfare check, a free cell phone with free monthly minutes, food stamps, section 8 housing, a forty ounce malt liquor, a crack pipe and some Air Jordan's and he votes Democrat for a lifetime. | |||
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Rifle was made by Stendebach. A mate has one in 8x57r. Cal _______________________________ Cal Pappas, Willow, Alaska www.CalPappas.com www.CalPappas.blogspot.com 1994 Zimbabwe 1997 Zimbabwe 1998 Zimbabwe 1999 Zimbabwe 1999 Namibia, Botswana, Zambia--vacation 2000 Australia 2002 South Africa 2003 South Africa 2003 Zimbabwe 2005 South Africa 2005 Zimbabwe 2006 Tanzania 2006 Zimbabwe--vacation 2007 Zimbabwe--vacation 2008 Zimbabwe 2012 Australia 2013 South Africa 2013 Zimbabwe 2013 Australia 2016 Zimbabwe 2017 Zimbabwe 2018 South Africa 2018 Zimbabwe--vacation 2019 South Africa 2019 Botswana 2019 Zimbabwe vacation 2021 South Africa 2021 South Africa (2nd hunt a month later) ______________________________ | |||
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What years were they produced? Double Rifles, This is the weapon of a Jedi Knight. Not as clumsy or random as bolt rifle. An elegant weapon for a more civilized age. DRSS Chapuis 9.3x74R NRA Life Member | |||
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What brand is the ammo, and are you interested in selling it? ....Mac >>>===(x)===> MacD37, ...and DUGABOY1 DRSS Charter member "If I die today, I've had a life well spent, for I've been to see the Elephant, and smelled the smoke of Africa!"~ME 1982 Hands of Old Elmer Keith | |||
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Your PM is answered Mac. NRA Life ASSRA Life DRSS Today's Quote: Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Give a man a welfare check, a free cell phone with free monthly minutes, food stamps, section 8 housing, a forty ounce malt liquor, a crack pipe and some Air Jordan's and he votes Democrat for a lifetime. | |||
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There is an article in the Double Gun Journal winter 2001, volume twelve, issue 4. "Two Unusual German Double Rifles" by Fredich Franzen. The article shows 2 diffent guns with one using the Stendebach system & may be of great help in your identification & history. m4220 | |||
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Something new today on this unusual rifle, it turns out, its not 8x57, its chambered in 303 British. Its now for sale at Great Northern Guns. We think its made between 1905 to 1914. I think its a real cool Rifle. Double Rifles, This is the weapon of a Jedi Knight. Not as clumsy or random as bolt rifle. An elegant weapon for a more civilized age. DRSS Chapuis 9.3x74R NRA Life Member | |||
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