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I am going on a brown bear hunt on a boat in the ABC islands next spring. Michael458 is building me a .416 B and M with guncote for the trip. All weather gun etc. I love my VC 500NE with CEBs and was wondering if anyone knew a way to take a double to Alaska for a brown bear hunt without ruining it with Salt and weather. Are there covers we can use or a water proof case to carry it on the skiff and the stalk? please let me know your thoughts. would love to take it, but don't want to ruin it. Thanks Kodiak 2022 Namibia 2019 Namibia 2018 South Africa 2017 Alaska Brown Bear 2016 South Africa, 2016 Zimbabwe 2014 South Africa 2013 Australia 2011 Alberta 2009 Namibia 2007 Alberta 2006 | ||
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Suggestion, if it were me I would PM your question to Phil Shoemaker (458Win). If Phil does not have any good ideas, no one is likely to. Mike | |||
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I don't think you'd be the first person to ever hunt brown bear with a double or other wood and blue rifle. Wax the stock and keep the metal oiled, you should be fine. Beretta and a host of others make water proof soft cases for water fowl hunters that will fit your double rifle just fine. You can even get a water proof slip for carrying it off the boat. http://www.amazon.com/Beretta-...tifade/dp/B0087AZIDY http://www.ebay.com/itm/Waterp...ge-Bag-/121365324693 Hope that helps. | |||
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Jeff Rann did it on one of the early episodes of Dangerous Game. I think he used a 500/416. ____________________________________________ "Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life." Terry Pratchett. | |||
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Phil is the expert but until he chimes in… I hunt with a double here in AK, including a moose last September with a vintage .600. I keep the rifle in a soft fleece slip that is impregnated with oil an it, in turn, is in a waterproof and floatable soft rubber slip. I rub down the rifle with paste wax before the hunt to seal the surfaces of wood and metal but also to seal the small gaps between the wood and metal. No problems in the past years, but Phil will do better than I here. Cheers, Cal _______________________________ Cal Pappas, Willow, Alaska www.CalPappas.com www.CalPappas.blogspot.com 1994 Zimbabwe 1997 Zimbabwe 1998 Zimbabwe 1999 Zimbabwe 1999 Namibia, Botswana, Zambia--vacation 2000 Australia 2002 South Africa 2003 South Africa 2003 Zimbabwe 2005 South Africa 2005 Zimbabwe 2006 Tanzania 2006 Zimbabwe--vacation 2007 Zimbabwe--vacation 2008 Zimbabwe 2012 Australia 2013 South Africa 2013 Zimbabwe 2013 Australia 2016 Zimbabwe 2017 Zimbabwe 2018 South Africa 2018 Zimbabwe--vacation 2019 South Africa 2019 Botswana 2019 Zimbabwe vacation 2021 South Africa 2021 South Africa (2nd hunt a month later) ______________________________ | |||
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I lived and hunted in SE Ak for years and we always waxed up the rifles/ SG's with Johnson's automotive paste wax. It work's just fine. NRA Life ASSRA Life DRSS Today's Quote: Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Give a man a welfare check, a free cell phone with free monthly minutes, food stamps, section 8 housing, a forty ounce malt liquor, a crack pipe and some Air Jordan's and he votes Democrat for a lifetime. | |||
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Mike: I have he .577 in hand and it's a nice looking double. Bores are near mint. I'll have it at the Palmer show in a month as my table will have a few double for sale. Also, do you know your line at the end of your posts is VERY politically incorrect? Cal _______________________________ Cal Pappas, Willow, Alaska www.CalPappas.com www.CalPappas.blogspot.com 1994 Zimbabwe 1997 Zimbabwe 1998 Zimbabwe 1999 Zimbabwe 1999 Namibia, Botswana, Zambia--vacation 2000 Australia 2002 South Africa 2003 South Africa 2003 Zimbabwe 2005 South Africa 2005 Zimbabwe 2006 Tanzania 2006 Zimbabwe--vacation 2007 Zimbabwe--vacation 2008 Zimbabwe 2012 Australia 2013 South Africa 2013 Zimbabwe 2013 Australia 2016 Zimbabwe 2017 Zimbabwe 2018 South Africa 2018 Zimbabwe--vacation 2019 South Africa 2019 Botswana 2019 Zimbabwe vacation 2021 South Africa 2021 South Africa (2nd hunt a month later) ______________________________ | |||
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Really?  Why? Is it untruthful?   NRA Life ASSRA Life DRSS Today's Quote: Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Give a man a welfare check, a free cell phone with free monthly minutes, food stamps, section 8 housing, a forty ounce malt liquor, a crack pipe and some Air Jordan's and he votes Democrat for a lifetime. | |||
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Politically incorrect but very truthful.   Member DSC,DRSS,NRA,TSRA A man who carries a cat by the tail learns something he can learn in no other way. -Mark Twain There ought to be one day - just one – when there is open season on Congressmen. ~Will Rogers~ | |||
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When I went brown bear hunting I bought a rubber gun slip made by Kolpin to use when in the skiff. It kept the salt spray off the rifle. I'm sure the Alaskan guys can tell you where to find them. George Caswell told me once he gives his double rifle a liberal coat of petroleum jelly on the metal particularly at the joints when hunting in the rain. That should work in your case as well. | |||
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I lived in Alaska a long time and hunted all over the state. I also spent quite a bit of time hunting brown bears along the coast. I kept and still keep a shop rag saturated with Break Free CLP and rub my guns down at the end of every day. (after wiping all the water off them) Handguns, DR's or any other guns, all get the same treatment and I never had any rust problems... I used and like it on winter hunts too... DM | |||
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Cal, we don't need to understand USA:s political oddities but it seems that anyone there who owns any weapon will support Republican party. | |||
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This is the ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure thread. I saw a blued gun at the end of the day already mottled with rust as it was exposed to salt water that morning. The paste wax works as does Barricade. Barricade sprays on, dries, and leaves a film. It can be worn off with handling and is not superior to paste wax. Matt | |||
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Mike and I are mates. He knows where I am coming from. Just giving a jab to a fellow Alaskan. Cal _______________________________ Cal Pappas, Willow, Alaska www.CalPappas.com www.CalPappas.blogspot.com 1994 Zimbabwe 1997 Zimbabwe 1998 Zimbabwe 1999 Zimbabwe 1999 Namibia, Botswana, Zambia--vacation 2000 Australia 2002 South Africa 2003 South Africa 2003 Zimbabwe 2005 South Africa 2005 Zimbabwe 2006 Tanzania 2006 Zimbabwe--vacation 2007 Zimbabwe--vacation 2008 Zimbabwe 2012 Australia 2013 South Africa 2013 Zimbabwe 2013 Australia 2016 Zimbabwe 2017 Zimbabwe 2018 South Africa 2018 Zimbabwe--vacation 2019 South Africa 2019 Botswana 2019 Zimbabwe vacation 2021 South Africa 2021 South Africa (2nd hunt a month later) ______________________________ | |||
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I wouldn't mate with you under any circumstances!  Yer too ugly!NRA Life ASSRA Life DRSS Today's Quote: Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Give a man a welfare check, a free cell phone with free monthly minutes, food stamps, section 8 housing, a forty ounce malt liquor, a crack pipe and some Air Jordan's and he votes Democrat for a lifetime. | |||
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You won't be saying that when I slip you a date rape drug. cal _______________________________ Cal Pappas, Willow, Alaska www.CalPappas.com www.CalPappas.blogspot.com 1994 Zimbabwe 1997 Zimbabwe 1998 Zimbabwe 1999 Zimbabwe 1999 Namibia, Botswana, Zambia--vacation 2000 Australia 2002 South Africa 2003 South Africa 2003 Zimbabwe 2005 South Africa 2005 Zimbabwe 2006 Tanzania 2006 Zimbabwe--vacation 2007 Zimbabwe--vacation 2008 Zimbabwe 2012 Australia 2013 South Africa 2013 Zimbabwe 2013 Australia 2016 Zimbabwe 2017 Zimbabwe 2018 South Africa 2018 Zimbabwe--vacation 2019 South Africa 2019 Botswana 2019 Zimbabwe vacation 2021 South Africa 2021 South Africa (2nd hunt a month later) ______________________________ | |||
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Thanks for all the great advise, will start looking at the covers and paste wax. Kodiak 2022 Namibia 2019 Namibia 2018 South Africa 2017 Alaska Brown Bear 2016 South Africa, 2016 Zimbabwe 2014 South Africa 2013 Australia 2011 Alberta 2009 Namibia 2007 Alberta 2006 | |||
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Well,if you were one of the cool kids you would have one of Butch Searcy's ultra rare stainless steel double rifles with synthetic stock. Problem solved DRSS Kreighoff 470 NE Valmet 412 30/06 & 9.3x74R | |||
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Shortly I will offer a .577 bpe double for sale in the classifieds. I can't think of a better double for bear. However, it is not stainless and synthetic! Cal _______________________________ Cal Pappas, Willow, Alaska www.CalPappas.com www.CalPappas.blogspot.com 1994 Zimbabwe 1997 Zimbabwe 1998 Zimbabwe 1999 Zimbabwe 1999 Namibia, Botswana, Zambia--vacation 2000 Australia 2002 South Africa 2003 South Africa 2003 Zimbabwe 2005 South Africa 2005 Zimbabwe 2006 Tanzania 2006 Zimbabwe--vacation 2007 Zimbabwe--vacation 2008 Zimbabwe 2012 Australia 2013 South Africa 2013 Zimbabwe 2013 Australia 2016 Zimbabwe 2017 Zimbabwe 2018 South Africa 2018 Zimbabwe--vacation 2019 South Africa 2019 Botswana 2019 Zimbabwe vacation 2021 South Africa 2021 South Africa (2nd hunt a month later) ______________________________ | |||
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The original was called the gun boat. It's basically a water proof river bag designed for a rifle. You can fit you're gun and soft case inside and it even floats.  DRSS NRA life AK Master Guide 124 | |||
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Another option on a all weather double is jagdwaffen Fuchs in Innsbruck.He has made stainless doubles. Or you buy an inexpensive Merkel and just beat the heck out of it like mine.  DRSS NRA life AK Master Guide 124 | |||
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