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450/400 with 26" barrels, 1-8 Swarovski in claw mounts... totaling 10 lbs (all in) might be appealing?

Might also be the perfect buffalo rifle!

I LOVE this 3-D modeling!



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Last week I bought a Heym 88B PH in 450-400 with 26" barrels and claw mounted 1-6 Swarovski. Can't wait to get it out to the range and try it. Owned several Merkel 140's and I really liked them, but the Heym feels better with the longer barrels. Maybe it's just in my head because you wouldn't think 3 inches in barrel length would make that much difference.
 
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Steve, I like the longer barrels as well. Without the length of an "action", a DR feels too short and clubby to me with 24" barrels.
 
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I like longer barrels too. I just do not understand sort barrels on a double, but if someone likes short barrels that is their proghtive. Some like blondes some like red heads.
 
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My Simson .405 weighs 10 pounds with Leupold scope - makes a real nice package and the weight kills the recoil of heavy 400 grain hand loads.


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My Charles Lancaster 450/400, 3 1/4" NE, has 26" barrels & weighs

in at 10 pounds as well. Seems to balance perfectly & recoil is

minimal (seems less than my buddy's 300 Win Mag!). 10 pounds is

an "easy" carry weight even on long treks after elephant, buffalo,...
 
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450/400 with 26" barrels, 1-8 Swarovski in claw mounts... totaling 10 lbs (all in) might be appealing?

Might also be the perfect buffalo rifle!

I LOVE this 3-D modeling!


Chris, do you have this in stock? 88b or 89b? Price?


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That is perfect weight Chris! The only reason I sold my Heym 450/400 was I thought it was too heavy.


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My 450-400 with 26 inch barrels weighs in at 10lb 2 oz. What's more important is stock fit and balance.
 
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Agreed... 10 pounds is the ideal (and historically accurate) weight for a 450/400. It's also an ideal caliber for a scope.

Scope, rings and claw mounts add about a pound... so your 450/400 can get to 11 pounds pretty quickly.

With this smaller frame, we can build a 9lb 450/400... add a pound, and you're spot on at 10.0 lbs.


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Last week I bought a Heym 88B PH in 450-400 with 26" barrels and claw mounted 1-6 Swarovski. Can't wait to get it out to the range and try it. Owned several Merkel 140's and I really liked them, but the Heym feels better with the longer barrels. Maybe it's just in my head because you wouldn't think 3 inches in barrel length would make that much difference.


Did Heym mount the scope? I was going to get them to put one of those Swarovskis on my .450/.400, too, until they told me the mounting would cost $2400 - about $400 more than the scope itself. I imagine the great expense had something to do with re-regulation required with the scope's mass added.

Mine has 26-inch barrels, too, but feels a fraction muzzle heavy, compared with a 24" Jeffery I tried at the time. I wouldn't have them any shorter, though, because the calibre is already a fraction marginal for the big stuff, and I wouldn't want to lose any more velocity from the Hornady tropical loadings.
 
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I'm sure the Heym did the mounting when the rifle was built at their factory. PM me your email and I'll send you a photograph of how it is set up.
 
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Most English rifles in 40 cal. are 9-3/4 to 10-1/2 lbs depending on wood structure..and that's as it should be..10s about perfect..

I like 26 inch barrels, but I had a 450-400 that I purchased from an AR member, reluctantly, but he is a good friend and never steered me wrong so I bought it...I have to say I never owned a better feeling or handling double rifle, as I recall it was a Jefferys? and it was incredibly accurate..I held on to it for a long time until some nut case tempted me byond my greedy capability..something I have dreaded more than a few times..It was so handy and pointed like a 410 Boss shotgun...awesome little gun, and the only 20 inch double rifle have ever seen. It had been modified and re-regulated..


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Most English rifles in 40 cal. are 9-3/4 to 10-1/2 lbs depending on wood structure..and that's as it should be..10s about perfect..

I like 26 inch barrels, but I had a 450-400 that I purchased from an AR member, reluctantly, but he is a good friend and never steered me wrong so I bought it...I have to say I never owned a better feeling or handling double rifle, as I recall it was a Jefferys? and it was incredibly accurate..I held on to it for a long time until some nut case tempted me byond my greedy capability..something I have dreaded more than a few times..It was so handy and pointed like a 410 Boss shotgun...awesome little gun, and the only 20 inch double rifle have ever seen. It had been modified and re-regulated..


Everybody is keen on barrel length,but I think it's the quality of the maker that is going to dictate how the rifle feels between the hands,no matter the length,it's how it balances is what really counts,my favorite DR is only 21"in barrel length & I have several others going 24" to 26",including two Heyms & two lowly CZ Brnos,my first Dr was a Merkel,Ray had a Jeffery's,& people are still trying to copy the fit & finish & balance of those well built english guns.


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