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I have been looking for good load data for my Baikal 30R Blaser double and it is very hard to come by but I found a good Italian source. I ran it through Google Translator so the language might be a little odd. If you want to check the original source I have included the URL Orignal Source Here It is pretty comprehensive and about 28 pages. The data is divided into bullet weights. For my 180gr Barnes TSX loads it looks like I need to get some IMR 4064. I can use the same powder for my .375 H&H as well as my .416 Rem mag. This is not the only data out there. I know that Subsailor has had good luck with RL22. I hope this helps anybody else looking for 30R data! .30 CALIBER R BLASER (7.62 X68 MM R) The cartridge caliber .30 R Blaser (NB in some literature sources this cartridge is known , albeit rarely, with the name of metric 7,62 x68mm R) is a partial derivative of the caliber .30-06 Springfield cartridge (see entry on whether ), made by the German company RWS at the end of the twentieth century in order to " ... bring new life ... " in the field of ammunition for small arms overhead . In Germany and in all countries of Central Europe, is widespread hunting of ungulates practiced with rifled arms overhead and for this reason the RWS thought it best to move the market by introducing a cartridge -based " ... on the old and always valid .30-06 ... ", but capable of performance very interesting. The original cartridge was offered in two configurations , respectively, based on a ball -type KS ( NB a type of ball -tipped conical / pointed produced exclusively from RWS ) and a type TUG (NB a ball type with tapered nose cone and tapered base created by W. Brenneke and produced by RWS ) 150 ( 9.7 GRAMS) and 180 grs . ( 11.7 GRAMS) , and was able to develop a speed of 20 - 30m / s higher . compared to those of the .30-06 Springfield . original cartridge caliber .30 R Blaser, from RWS 180grs . type " TUG " D 0 50 100 150 200 250 300 V 860 810 765 720 680 640 605 It 4327 3838 3424 3033 2705 2396 2141 T 0 60 123 190 262 337 418 LEGEND - D = indicates the distance from the target (in m) - V = indicates the speed of the proiettle at various distances ( in m / s ) - E = indicates the kinetic energy of the projectile at various distances ( in joules ) - T = indicates the time of flight of the projectile at various distances (in milliseconds) The experiment took place with rods 600mm, and the muzzle velocity they amounted , respectively , on the 940 ( with the ball 150grs . ) And about 860m / s (with the ball 180grs . ) . The case length of 68mm compared to 63mm TYPICAL of the .30-06 Springfield , gives the cartridge case of the .30 R Blaser an interior volume 20% higher than the .30-06 Springfield. Unlike its ancestor , the caliber .30 R Blaser has a shoulder angle of 40 ° (NB in .30-06 Springfield shoulder angle is 17 ° 30 ' ) , which allows you to increase substantially the internal volume available for loading , without dramatically raising the pressure. The following are a summary of its main dimensional data : - Maximum diameter of the bullet = 7.85 mm ( .309 " ) - Maximum length of the assembled cartridge ( OAL ) = 95.00 mm - Maximum length of the cartridge case = 68.00 mm , but in the charging cradle home the shells are cut and trimmed to exact 67,80 mm - Length of the cartridge case OVER the shoulder (typical) = 61.16 mm - Length of the shell BELOW the shoulder (typical) = 57.77 mm - Angle = 40 ° shoulder - Diameter of collar = 8,73 mm - Diameter at the base of the shoulder = 11.20 mm - Diameter at the base of the body = 12,20 mm - Diameter of the bottom = 13.50 mm - Working pressure (mean maximum ) = 3500 bar ( 350MPa ) - Type = Large Rifle primers Standard - Pitch of rifling (commercial) typical = 1 turn in 12 " barrels from 600 - 610mm ( 23.6 " - 24 ") with balls from 100 to 220 grs . Weight . Rods are still available even with step 1 turn 10 " WARNING ! PLEASE ALWAYS CLEAN THE BARREL WITH SPECIFIC PRODUCTS AS MILFOAM (see website for more information www.milfoam.fi ) OR THE GUNSLICK (see website www.gunslick.com for more information) . THIS IS GREAT PRODUCT THAT ELIMINATES THE PARASITES OF COPPER DEPOSITS IN DEPTH ' AND FACILITATE CLEANING ! Recharging the .30 R Blaser is not particularly complex in terms of execution. The shells virgin (virgin cases ) can be found with relative ease in all the armories Italian -stocked , especially if it comes to gun shops specializing in items for hunting. In case of difficulty please contact specialized shops such as STITRA of Turin (NB please visit www.stitra.com for further clarification) or VOC Trading Chieri (NB please visit www.covtrading.com for further clarification) . triggers are the classic Large Rifle Standard , so you can employ the canons # CCI- 200 or equivalent. In no case should be employed triggers type Large Rifle Magnum , or may experience a dangerous pressure peaks at the time of the shot ! The balls used are theoretically all those that currently exist for the cartridges caliber 7.62 mm ( .308 "). However, on a practical level the balls really useful , and therefore usable in practice , are those weighing between 150 and 180grs . ! By what concerns propellants , since the catuccia derives from .30-06 Springfield , in line general we can say that all the propellants ( or at least most ) used to recharge the .30-06 Springfiield can use with satisfaction to reload the .30 R Blaser . bibliographic Some sources point out that this is not entirely true, and that to get the best results with the .30 R Blaser it should invest only in .30-06 propellants that are known to be more progressive (Note the use of the higher progressivity is justified , according to some sources , due to the higher internal volume ) . ball 100grs . type of fully armored , semiblindato or polycarbonate tip , various types ( OAL typical from 78.00 to 80.00 mm) powder (type) dose ( grs. ) N -130 40.0 (min) - 49.5 (MAX) N -133 47.5 (min) - 55.0 (MAX) N -135 50.0 (min) - 57.5 (MAX) N -140 54.0 (min) - 62.0 (MAX) N- 540 55.5 (min) - 64.0 (MAX) WW -748 49.0 (min) - 56.0 (MAX) WW- 760 54.0 (min) - 61.0 (MAX) IMR- 3031 47.0 (min) - 55.5 (MAX) IMR- 4064 52.0 (min) - 60.0 (MAX) IMR- 4895 49.0 (min) - 55.5 (MAX) IMR- 4320 52.0 (min) - 57.5 (MAX) IMR -4350 57.5 (min) - 63.5 (MAX) WARNING ! DUE TO THE POOR CIRCULATION OF .30 R BLASER IN OUR COUNTRY , THE GAUGE IN QUESTION IS POORLY RELOADED BY SHOOTERS / HUNTERS . HOLDERS OF THE FEW WEAPONS dorms PREFER FOR THIS CARTRIDGE USE OF ORIGIN COMMERCIAL AMMUNITION , ALSO WHY ' LOAD DATA RELATED TO THIS CARTRIDGE IS VERY RARE . Despite being in the abstract of a good cartridge, the .30 R Blaser is not widely distributed outside of Germany , and VERY rare in Italy or in other European countries . Outside the European continent is, in fact , completely non-existent. The lack of commercial distribution is evidenced not only by the low number of arms sales dorms for this cartridge , but also by the fact that the RWS (note that the company that created it !) Has a catalog , even today, ONLY two types of ammunition with ball 150 (Note the muzzle velocity is 940m / s into the barrel of 600mm ) and 180grs . (Note the muzzle velocity is 860m / s cane 600m ) . ball 110grs . type of fully armored , semiblindato or polycarbonate tip , various types ( OAL tipico78 , 00 to 81.50 mm) powder (type) dose ( grs. ) N -133 47.0 (min) - 54.0 (MAX) N -135 48.5 (min) - 54.5 (MAX) N -140 52.5 (min) - 58.5 (MAX) N -150 55.0 (min) - 61.5 (MAX) WW -748 49.0 (min) - 56.0 (MAX) WW- 760 54.0 (min) - 61.0 (MAX) IMR- 3031 47.0 (min) - 54.5 (MAX) IMR- 4064 52.0 (min) - 59.0 (MAX) IMR- 4895 49.0 (min) - 55.0 (MAX) IMR- 4320 52.0 (min) - 57.0 (MAX) IMR -4350 58.0 (min) - 62.0 (MAX) TECHNICAL NOTES (1) - according to some literature sources , optimal charging (NB usually " optimal " means that 100m recharging is able to generate 5 shots of pink with a diameter of 20mm or less !) With the ball 110grs . would consist of a RWS -type TMR pushed by 51.7 grs . dust RWS R -901 ( Large Rifle primer Standard - OAL 78.00 mm). Other sources indicate a dose of R -901 between 53.0 and 57.0 grs . , Always with the same type of ball. Careful experimentation , starting with a dose reduced by 10 % compared to the indicated dose as MINIMUM , allowing you to identify the right dose for your weapon . Always act with the utmost caution and keep an eye out for signs of overpressure ! TECHNICAL NOTES (2) - according to some literature sources , optimal charging (NB usually " optimal " means that 100m recharging is able to generate 5 shots of pink with a diameter of 20mm or less !) With the ball 110grs . would consist of a RWS type TMR pushed by 58.7 grs . dust RWS R -903 ( Large Rifle primer Standard - OAL 78.00 mm). Other sources indicate a dose of R -903 between 54.0 and 58.0 grs . , Always with the same type of ball. Careful experimentation , starting with a dose reduced by 10 % compared to the indicated dose as MINIMUM , allowing you to identify the right dose for your weapon . Always act with the utmost caution and keep an eye out for signs of overpressure ! WARNING ! FOR A REASON FOR EVERYTHING INCOMPRESIBILE , THE FEW INDIVIDUALS THAT THE RECHARGE .30 R BLASER HAVE THE HABIT OF ASSEMBLY PERICOOSA REFILLS MUCH ' COURT OF NORMAL ( NB reflect on the fact that the maximum length of the cartridge is 95.00 mm and that many individuals assembled refills that are sometimes as much as 1 cm shorter , thus meeting at serious risk as the cocnerne comaprsa overpressure !) ALSO USING vERY HEAVY BALLS ( NB and therefore very long !) . FOR SAFETY REASONS , YOU HAVE TO DO IN ORDER TO get as close as ' POSSIBLE MAXIMUM LENGTH SPECIFIED BY THE MANUFACTURER BECAUSE IT ' THIS WILL ALLOW TO ACQUIRE TWO BENEFITS . THE FIRST AND ' THAT AVOID THE RISK OF SIGNIFICATIVAMENE OVERPRESSURE ! THE SECOND AND ' you approach BEGINNING OF LINES , WHICH WILL ALLOW THE MAXIMUM ACCURACY OF THE TARGET ! ball 125 - 130grs . type of fully armored , semiblindato or polycarbonate tip , various types ( OAL typical from 86.00 to 87.00 mm) powder (type) dose ( grs. ) N -135 48.0 (min) - 53.5 (MAX) N -140 51.0 (min) - 57.0 (MAX) N- 540 54.0 (min) - 61.0 (MAX) N -150 53.0 (min) - 60.0 (MAX) N -550 57.0 (min) - 61.0 (MAX) WW -748 47.0 (min) - 54.0 (MAX) WW- 760 52.5 (min) - 59.5 (MAX) IMR- 3031 46.0 (min) - 51.0 (MAX) IMR4895 47.5 (min) - 53.0 (MAX) IMR- 4064 48.5 (min) - 56.0 (MAX) IMR- 4320 49.5 (min) - 56.0 (MAX) IMR -4350 55.5 (min) - 62.0 (MAX) TECHNICAL NOTES (1) - according to some literature sources , optimal charging (NB usually " optimal " means that 100m recharging is able to generate 5 shots of pink with a diameter of 20mm or less !) With the ball 125grs . would consist of a ball -tipped semiblindata springs pushed by 58.7 grs . Dust Norma N -204 ( Large Rifle primer Standard - OAL 86.50 mm). Other sources indicate a dose of N -204 between 54.0 and 59.0 grs . , Always with the same type of ball. Careful experimentation , starting with a dose reduced by 10 % compared to the indicated dose as MINIMUM , allowing you to identify the right dose for your weapon . Always act with the utmost caution and keep an eye out for signs of overpressure ! WARNING ! ON THE BASIS OF ONE THAT 'THE EXPERIENCE IN DIFFERENT EUROPEAN COUNTRIES , CAN' SURELY SAY THAT THE BEST RESULTS WITH THE .30 R BLASER YOU GET ENOUGH WITH WEIGHT OF NOT LESS THAN 150GRANI ( 9.7 GRAMS) AND NOT EXCEEDING AI 180GRANI ( 11.7 GRAMS) . TO MAXIMIZE YOUR EFFORTS WITHIN THE CHARGE , PLEASE TRY TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THIS INFORMATION SHEET CAREFULLY ! ball 150 - 155grs . type of fully armored , semiblindato or polycarbonate tip , various types ( OAL typical from 86.00 to 90.00 mm) powder (type) dose ( grs. ) N -135 45.5 (min) - 51.0 (MAX) N -140 48.5 (min) - 54.0 (MAX) N- 540 49.0 (min) - 55.5 (MAX) N -150 50.5 (min) - 56.0 (MAX) N -550 54.5 (min) - 61.0 (MAX) WW -748 46.5 (min) - 53.0 (MAX) WW- 760 51.0 (min) - 56.0 (MAX) IMR- 3031 44.5 (min) - 50.5 (MAX) IMR- 4895 44.5 (min) - 51.0 (MAX) IMR- 4064 46.5 (min) - 54.0 (MAX) IMR- 4320 46.5 (min) - 53.5 (MAX) IMR -4350 52.5 (min) - 60.0 (MAX) Vectan 5000 42.5 (min) - 51.5 (MAX) Vectan 7000 49.5 (min) - 59.0 (MAX) TECHNICAL NOTES (1) - according to some literature sources , optimal charging (NB usually " optimal " means that 100m recharging is able to generate 5 shots of pink with a diameter of 20mm or less !) With the ball 147grs . weight would consist of a RWS SG pushed by 57.9 grs . dust RWS R -907 ( Large Rifle primer Standard - OAL 86.00 mm). Other sources indicate a dose of R -907 between 54.0 and 59.0 grs . , Always with the same type of ball. Careful experimentation , starting with a dose reduced by 10 % compared to the indicated dose as MINIMUM , allowing you to identify the right dose for your weapon . Always act with the utmost caution and keep an eye out for signs of overpressure ! TECHNICAL NOTES (2) - according to some literature sources , optimal charging (NB usually " optimal " means that 100m recharging is able to generate 5 shots of pink with a diameter of 20mm or less !) With the ball 147grs . weight would be constituted by a ball -type RWS SG pushed by 64.8 grs . dust RWS R -905 ( Large Rifle primer Standard - OAL 86.00 mm). Other sources indicate a dose of R -905 between 61.0 and 65.0 grs . , Always with the same type of ball. Careful experimentation , starting with a dose reduced by 10 % compared to the indicated dose as MINIMUM , allowing you to identify the right dose for your weapon . Always act with the utmost caution and keep an eye out for signs of overpressure ! TECHNICAL NOTES (3) - according to some literature sources , optimal charging (NB usually " optimal " means that 100m recharging is able to generate 5 shots of pink with a diameter of 20mm or less !) With the ball 150grs . weight would consist of a RWS type KS pushed by 58.1 grs . dust RWS R -907 ( Large Rifle primer Standard - OAL 84.00 mm). Other sources indicate a dose of R -907 between 54.0 and 58.0 grs . , Always with the same type of ball. Careful experimentation , starting with a dose reduced by 10 % compared to the indicated dose as MINIMUM , allowing you to identify the right dose for your weapon . Always act with the utmost caution and keep an eye out for signs of overpressure ! TECHNICAL NOTES (4) - according to some literature sources , optimal charging (NB usually " optimal " means that 100m recharging is able to generate 5 shots of pink with a diameter of 20mm or less !) With the ball 150grs . weight would consist of a RWS type KS pushed by 64.9 grs . dust RWS R -905 ( Large Rifle primer Standard - OAL 84.00 mm). Other sources indicate a dose of R -905 between 61.0 and 65.0 grs . , Always with the same type of ball. Careful experimentation , starting with a dose reduced by 10 % compared to the indicated dose as MINIMUM , allowing you to identify the right dose for your weapon . Always act with the utmost caution and keep an eye out for signs of overpressure ! TECHNICAL NOTES (5) - according to some literature sources , optimal charging (NB usually " optimal " means that 100m recharging is able to generate 5 shots of pink with a diameter of 20mm or less !) With the ball 150grs . weight would consist of a RWS type TIG pushed by 59.3 grs . Dust Norma N -204 ( Large Rifle primer Standard - OAL 86.50 mm). Other sources indicate a dose of N -204 between 55.0 and 59.0 grs . , Always with the same type of ball. Careful experimentation , starting with a dose reduced by 10 % compared to the indicated dose as MINIMUM , allowing you to identify the right dose for your weapon . Always act with the utmost caution and keep an eye out for signs of overpressure ! TECHNICAL NOTES (6) - according to some literature sources , optimal charging (NB usually " optimal " means that 100m recharging is able to generate 5 shots of pink with a diameter of 20mm or less !) With the ball 150grs . weight would consist of a RWS type KS pushed by 58.8 grs . Dust Norma N -204 ( Large Rifle primer Standard - OAL 87.00 mm). Other sources indicate a dose of N -204 between 55.0 and 59.0 grs . ( NB in certain cases there is the indication of a dose between 54.0 and 58.0 grs . ) With the same type of ball. Careful experimentation , starting with a dose reduced by 10 % compared to the indicated dose as MINIMUM , allowing you to identify the right dose for your weapon . Always act with the utmost caution and keep an eye out for signs of overpressure ! TECHNICAL NOTES (7) - according to some literature sources , optimal charging (NB usually " optimal " means that 100m recharging is able to generate 5 shots of pink with a diameter of 20mm or less !) With the ball 150grs . weight would be constituted by a RWS type TIG pushed by 54.0 grs . dust RWS R -904 ( Large Rifle primer Standard - OAL 86.50 mm). Other sources indicate a dose of R -904 between 50.0 and 54.0 grs . , Always with the same type of ball. Careful experimentation , starting with a dose reduced by 10 % compared to the indicated dose as MINIMUM , allowing you to identify the right dose for your weapon . Always act with the utmost caution and keep an eye out for signs of overpressure ! TECHNICAL NOTES (8) - according to some literature sources , optimal charging (NB usually " optimal " means that 100m recharging is able to generate 5 shots of pink with a diameter of 20mm or less !) With the ball 150grs . weight would consist of a RWS type KS pushed by 56.0 grs . dust Vihtavuori N -160 ( Large Rifle primer Standard - 90.00 mm OAL ) . Other sources indicate a dose of N -160 between 52.0 and 56.0 grs . , Always with the same type of ball. Careful experimentation , starting with a dose reduced by 10 % compared to the indicated dose as MINIMUM , allowing you to identify the right dose for your weapon . Always act with the utmost caution and keep an eye out for signs of overpressure ! TECHNICAL NOTES (9) - in reference to the ball 150grs . weight , certain literature sources indicate a dose of N -135 between 45.0 and 51.0 grs . in order to obtain " ... optimal charging ... " ( NB usually "optimal" means that at 100m charging is able to generate pinkish of 5 shots from 20mm diameter or less !) . The primers are of type Large Rifle Standard , while the length of the cartridge is 95.00 mm . Careful experimentation , starting with a dose reduced by 10 % compared to the indicated dose as MINIMUM , allowing you to identify the right dose for your weapon . Always act with the utmost caution and keep an eye out for signs of overpressure ! TECHNICAL NOTES (10) - in reference to the ball 150grs . weight , certain literature sources indicate a dose of N -140 between 50.0 and 55.0 grs . in order to obtain " ... optimal charging ... " ( NB usually "optimal" means that at 100m charging is able to generate pinkish of 5 shots from 20mm diameter or less !) . The primers are of type Large Rifle Standard , while the length of the cartridge is 95.00 mm . Careful experimentation , starting with a dose reduced by 10 % compared to the indicated dose as MINIMUM , allowing you to identify the right dose for your weapon . Always act with the utmost caution and keep an eye out for signs of overpressure ! TECHNICAL NOTES (11) - in reference to the ball 150grs . weight , certain literature sources indicate a dose of N -540 between 50.0 and 56.0 grs . in order to obtain " ... optimal charging ... " ( NB usually "optimal" means that at 100m charging is able to generate pinkish of 5 shots from 20mm diameter or less !) . The primers are of type Large Rifle Standard , while the length of the cartridge is 95.00 mm . Careful experimentation , starting with a dose reduced by 10 % compared to the indicated dose as MINIMUM , allowing you to identify the right dose for your weapon . Always act with the utmost caution and keep an eye out for signs of overpressure ! TECHNICAL NOTES (12) - in reference to the ball 150grs . weight , certain literature sources indicate a dose of N -150 between 52.0 and 57.0 grs . in order to obtain " ... optimal charging ... " ( NB usually "optimal" means that at 100m charging is able to generate pinkish of 5 shots from 20mm diameter or less !) . The primers are of type Large Rifle Standard , while the length of the cartridge is 95.00 mm . Careful experimentation , starting with a dose reduced by 10 % compared to the indicated dose as MINIMUM , allowing you to identify the right dose for your weapon . Always act with the utmost caution and keep an eye out for signs of overpressure ! TECHNICAL NOTES (13) - in reference to the ball 150grs . weight , certain literature sources indicate a dose of N -550 between 56.0 and 61.0 grs . in order to obtain " ... optimal charging ... " ( NB usually "optimal" means that at 100m charging is able to generate pinkish of 5 shots from 20mm diameter or less !) . The primers are of type Large Rifle Standard , while the length of the cartridge is 95.00 mm . Careful experimentation , starting with a dose reduced by 10 % compared to the indicated dose as MINIMUM , allowing you to identify the right dose for your weapon . Always act with the utmost caution and keep an eye out for signs of overpressure ! WARNING ! WHEREAS THE BEST RESULTS WITH THE .30 R BLASER YOU GET ENOUGH WITH WEIGHT NOT LESS THAN 150GRANI ( 9.7 GRAMS ) AND NOT MORE THAN 180GRANI ( 11.7 GRAMS) , YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE RESULTS OF EXCELLENCE ASSMBLARE RECHARGE YOUR SO tHE BALL iS tHE MOST ' NEAREST POSSIBLE BEGINNING OF LINES ( when the cartridge is inserted in the room) ! THIS " ... TRICK OF THE TRADE ... " VI ALLOW ' TO TIGHTEN THE ROSATE BEYOND YOUR MOST ' ROSEA FORECAST . ball 165 - 170grs . type of fully armored , semiblindato , open toe or toe polycarbonate , various types ( OAL typical from 88.00 to 91.00 mm) powder (type) dose ( grs. ) N -140 45.0 (min) - 51.0 (MAX) N -150 47.5 (min) - 53.5 (MAX) N -550 49.0 (min) - 56.5 (MAX) N -160 56.5 (min) - 63.5 (MAX) WW -748 44.5 (min) - 50.0 (MAX) WW- 760 50.5 (min) - 55.0 (MAX) IMR- 3031 41.0 (min) - 47.0 (MAX) IMR- 4895 42.5 (min) - 48.0 (MAX) IMR- 4064 42.0 (min) - 50.5 (MAX) IMR- 4320 43.5 (min) - 51.5 (MAX) IMR -4350 49.0 (min) - 56.5 (MAX) IMR- 4831 50.5 (min) - 59.0 (MAX) Norma 204 51.0 (min) - 57.0 (MAX) Vectan 5000 40.0 (min) - 49.0 (MAX) Vectan 7000 46.5 (min) - 57.5 (MAX) TECHNICAL NOTES (1) - according to some literature sources , optimal charging (NB usually " optimal " means that 100m recharging is able to generate 5 shots of pink with a diameter of 20mm or less !) With the ball 165grs . weight would consist of a RWS SG pushed by 57.9 grs . dust RWS R -907 ( Large Rifle primer Standard - OAL 85.50 mm). Other sources indicate a dose of R -907 between 54.0 and 58.0 grs . with the same type of ball. Careful experimentation , starting with a dose reduced by 10 % compared to the indicated dose as MINIMUM , allowing you to identify the right dose for your weapon . Always act with the utmost caution and keep an eye out for signs of overpressure ! TECHNICAL NOTES (2) - according to some literature sources , optimal charging (NB usually " optimal " means that 100m recharging is able to generate 5 shots of pink with a diameter of 20mm or less !) With the ball 165grs . weight would consist of a RWS SG pushed by 65.8 grs . dust RWS R -905 ( Large Rifle primer Standard - OAL 85.50 mm). Other sources indicate a dose of R -905 between 61.0 and 66.0 grs . with the same type of ball. Careful experimentation , starting with a dose reduced by 10 % compared to the indicated dose as MINIMUM , allowing you to identify the right dose for your weapon . Always act with the utmost caution and keep an eye out for signs of overpressure ! TECHNICAL NOTES (3) - according to some literature sources , optimal charging (NB usually " optimal " means that 100m recharging is able to generate 5 shots of pink with a diameter of 20mm or less !) With the ball 165grs . weight would consist of a ball -type armored or semiblindato pushed by 57.0 grs . dust Vihtavuori N -160 ( Large Rifle primer Standard - OAL 86.00 mm). Other sources indicate a dose of N -160 between 53.0 and 57.0 grs . with the same type of ball. Careful experimentation , starting with a dose reduced by 10 % compared to the indicated dose as MINIMUM , allowing you to identify the right dose for your weapon . Always act with the utmost caution and keep an eye out for signs of overpressure ! TECHNICAL NOTES (4) - according to some literature sources , optimal charging (NB usually " optimal " means that 100m recharging is able to generate 5 shots of pink with a diameter of 20mm or less !) With the ball 165grs . weight would consist of a ball -type armored or semiblindato pushed by 56.0 grs . dust Vihtavuori N -165 ( Large Rifle primer Standard - OAL 86.00 mm). Other sources indicate a dose of N -165 between 52.0 and 56.0 grs . with the same type of ball. Careful experimentation , starting with a dose reduced by 10 % compared to the indicated dose as MINIMUM , allowing you to identify the right dose for your weapon . Always act with the utmost caution and keep an eye out for signs of overpressure ! TECHNICAL NOTES (5) - according to some literature sources , optimal charging (NB usually " optimal " means that 100m recharging is able to generate 5 shots of pink with a diameter of 20mm or less !) With the ball 165grs . weight would consist of any type of ball semiblindato based tapered , and American production , pushed by 53.0 grs . dust Vihtavuori N -160 ( Large Rifle primer Standard - OAL 91.30 to 91.50 mm). Careful experimentation , starting with a dose reduced by 10% allowing you to identify the right dose for your weapon . Always act with the utmost caution and keep an eye out for signs of overpressure ! TECHNICAL NOTES (6) - according to some literature sources , optimal charging (NB usually " optimal " means that 100m recharging is able to generate 5 shots of pink with a diameter of 20mm or less ! ) To be used ONLY with the ball 165grs . a homogeneous structure ( homogeneous bullet / solid bullet ) would consist of 52.0 grs . dust Vihtavuori N -160 ( Large Rifle primer Standard - 90.00 mm OAL ) . Careful experimentation , starting with a dose reduced by 10% allowing you to identify the right dose for your weapon . Always act with the utmost caution and keep an eye out for signs of overpressure ! TECHNICAL NOTES (7) - according to some literature sources , optimal charging (NB usually " optimal " means that 100m recharging is able to generate 5 shots of pink with a diameter of 20mm or less ! ) For use with the ball from 165grs . for anyone who wishes to maximize long distance shooting , would consist of 55.0 grs . dust Vihtavuori N -160 ( Large Rifle primer Standard - OAL 91.00 mm). And ' necessary to employ balls as the Nosler Ballistic -Tip, the Sierra SPBT or Hornady SP -BT . Careful experimentation , starting with a dose reduced by 10% allowing you to identify the right dose for your weapon . Always act with the utmost caution and keep an eye out for signs of overpressure ! TECHNICAL NOTES (8) - according to some literature sources , optimal charging (NB usually " optimal " means that 100m recharging is able to generate 5 shots of pink with a diameter of 20mm or less ! ) For use with the ball from 165grs . for anyone who wishes to maximize long distance shooting , would consist of 56.0 grs . dust Vihtavuori N -560 ( Large Rifle primer Standard - OAL 91.00 mm). And ' necessary to employ balls as the Nosler Ballistic -Tip, the Sierra SPBT or Hornady SP -BT . Careful experimentation , starting with a dose reduced by 10% allowing you to identify the right dose for your weapon . Always act with the utmost caution and keep an eye out for signs of overpressure ! TECHNICAL NOTES (9) - according to some literature sources , optimal charging (NB usually " optimal " means that 100m recharging is able to generate 5 shots of pink with a diameter of 20mm or less !) With the ball 170grs . weight would consist of a ball gecko type TMR pushed by 57.0 grs . dust RWS R -907 ( Large Rifle primer Standard - OAL 88.50 mm). Other sources indicate a dose of R -907 between 53.0 and 57.0 grs . with the same type of ball. Careful experimentation , starting with a dose reduced by 10 % compared to the indicated dose as MINIMUM , allowing you to identify the right dose for your weapon . Always act with the utmost caution and keep an eye out for signs of overpressure ! TECHNICAL NOTES (10) - according to some literature sources , optimal charging (NB usually " optimal " means that 100m recharging is able to generate 5 shots of pink with a diameter of 20mm or less !) With the ball 170grs . weight would consist of a ball gecko type TMR pushed by 64.0 grs . dust RWS R -905 ( Large Rifle primer Standard - OAL 88.50 mm). Other sources indicate a dose of R -905 between 60.0 and 64.0 grs . with the same type of ball. Careful experimentation , starting with a dose reduced by 10 % compared to the indicated dose as MINIMUM , allowing you to identify the right dose for your weapon . Always act with the utmost caution and keep an eye out for signs of overpressure ! TECHNICAL NOTES (11) - in reference to the ball 165 - 170grs . weight , certain literature sources indicate a dose of N -140 between 47.0 and 52.0 grs . in order to obtain " ... optimal charging ... " ( NB usually "optimal" means that at 100m charging is able to generate pinkish of 5 shots from 20mm diameter or less !) . The primers are of type Large Rifle Standard , while the length of the cartridge is 95.00 mm . Careful experimentation , starting with a dose reduced by 10 % compared to the indicated dose as MINIMUM , allowing you to identify the right dose for your weapon . Always act with the utmost caution and keep an eye out for signs of overpressure ! TECHNICAL NOTES (12) - in reference to the ball 165 - 170grs . weight , certain literature sources indicate a dose of N -540 between 48.0 and 53.0 grs . in order to obtain " ... optimal charging ... " ( NB usually "optimal" means that at 100m charging is able to generate pinkish of 5 shots from 20mm diameter or less !) . The primers are of type Large Rifle Standard , while the length of the cartridge is 95.00 mm . Careful experimentation , starting with a dose reduced by 10 % compared to the indicated dose as MINIMUM , allowing you to identify the right dose for your weapon . Always act with the utmost caution and keep an eye out for signs of overpressure ! TECHNICAL NOTES (13) - in reference to the ball 165 - 170grs . weight , certain literature sources indicate a dose of N -150 between 49.0 and 55.0 grs . in order to obtain " ... optimal charging ... " ( NB usually "optimal" means that at 100m charging is able to generate pinkish of 5 shots from 20mm diameter or less !) . The primers are of type Large Rifle Standard , while the length of the cartridge is 95.00 mm . Careful experimentation , starting with a dose reduced by 10 % compared to the indicated dose as MINIMUM , allowing you to identify the right dose for your weapon . Always act with the utmost caution and keep an eye out for signs of overpressure ! TECHNICAL NOTES (14) - in reference to the ball 165 - 170grs . weight , certain literature sources indicate a dose of N -550 between 50.0 and 57.0 grs . in order to obtain " ... optimal charging ... " ( NB usually "optimal" means that at 100m charging is able to generate pinkish of 5 shots from 20mm diameter or less !) . The primers are of type Large Rifle Standard , while the length of the cartridge is 95.00 mm . Careful experimentation , starting with a dose reduced by 10 % compared to the indicated dose as MINIMUM , allowing you to identify the right dose for your weapon . Always act with the utmost caution and keep an eye out for signs of overpressure ! TECHNICAL NOTES (15) - in reference to the ball 165 - 170grs . weight , certain literature sources indicate a dose of N -160 between 58.0 and 64.0 grs . in order to obtain " ... optimal charging ... " ( NB usually "optimal" means that at 100m charging is able to generate pinkish of 5 shots from 20mm diameter or less !) . The primers are of type Large Rifle Standard , while the length of the cartridge is 95.00 mm . Careful experimentation , starting with a dose reduced by 10 % compared to the indicated dose as MINIMUM , allowing you to identify the right dose for your weapon . Always act with the utmost caution and keep an eye out for signs of overpressure ! ball 175 - 185grs . type of fully armored , semiblindato , open toe or toe polycarbonate , various types ( OAL typical from 91.00 to 94.00 mm) powder (type) dose ( grs. ) N- 540 44.0 (min) - 49.5 (MAX) N -150 44.5 (min) - 51.0 (MAX) N -550 46.5 (min) - 53.0 (MAX) N -160 53.5 (min) - 60.0 (MAX) N -560 54.5 (min) - 63.0 (MAX) WW -748 44.0 (min) - 48.5 (MAX) WW- 760 51.0 (min) - 55.0 (MAX) IMR- 4895 42.5 (min) - 47.0 (MAX) IMR- 4064 43.0 (min) - 49.5 (MAX) IMR- 4320 43.5 (min) - 49.5 (MAX) IMR -4350 48.5 (min) - 57.0 (MAX) IMR- 4831 49.5 (min) - 58.5 (MAX) MRP 54.5 (min) - 59.5 (MAX) Norma 204 49.5 (min) - 55.5 (MAX) Vectan 5000 40.0 (min) - 47.0 (MAX) Vectan 7000 42.5 (min) - 54.0 (MAX) TECHNICAL NOTES (1) - according to some literature sources , optimal charging (NB usually " optimal " means that 100m recharging is able to generate 5 shots of pink with a diameter of 20mm or less ! ) For use with the ball from 180grs . for anyone who wishes to maximize long distance shooting , would consist of 57.5 grs . dust Vihtavuori N -165 ( Large Rifle primer Standard - OAL 91.00 mm). And ' necessary to employ balls as the Nosler Ballistic -Tip, the Sierra SPBT or Hornady SP -BT . Careful experimentation , starting with a dose reduced by 10% allowing you to identify the right dose for your weapon . Always act with the utmost caution and keep an eye out for signs of overpressure ! TECHNICAL NOTES (2) - according to some literature sources , optimal charging (NB usually " optimal " means that 100m recharging is able to generate 5 shots of pink with a diameter of 20mm or less ! ) To be used ONLY with the ball 180grs . a homogeneous structure ( homogeneous bullet / solid bullet ) would consist of 53.0 grs . dust Vihtavuori N -560 ( Large Rifle primer Standard - OAL 91.00 mm). Careful experimentation , starting with a dose reduced by 10% allowing you to identify the right dose for your weapon . Always act with the utmost caution and keep an eye out for signs of overpressure ! TECHNICAL NOTES (3) - according to some literature sources , optimal charging (NB usually " optimal " means that 100m recharging is able to generate 5 shots of pink with a diameter of 20mm or less !) With the ball 180 - 181grs . weight would be constituted by a RWS type HMK pushed by 57.3 grs . dust RWS R -907 ( Large Rifle primer Standard - OAL 90.50 mm). Other sources indicate a dose of R -907 between 53.0 and 57.0 grs . with the same type of ball. Careful experimentation , starting with a dose reduced by 10 % compared to the indicated dose as MINIMUM , allowing you to identify the right dose for your weapon . Always act with the utmost caution and keep an eye out for signs of overpressure ! TECHNICAL NOTES (4) - according to some literature sources , optimal charging (NB usually " optimal " means that 100m recharging is able to generate 5 shots of pink with a diameter of 20mm or less !) With the ball 180 - 181grs . weight would consist of a RWS type HMK pushed by 63.5 grs . dust RWS R -905 ( Large Rifle primer Standard - OAL 90.50 mm). Other sources indicate a dose of R -905 between 60.0 and 63.5 grs . with the same type of ball. Careful experimentation , starting with a dose reduced by 10 % compared to the indicated dose as MINIMUM , allowing you to identify the right dose for your weapon . Always act with the utmost caution and keep an eye out for signs of overpressure ! TECHNICAL NOTES (5) - according to some literature sources , optimal charging (NB usually " optimal " means that 100m recharging is able to generate 5 shots of pink with a diameter of 20mm or less !) With the ball 180 - 181grs . weight would be constituted by a RWS type HMK pushed by 59.0 grs . dust Vihtavuori N -160 ( Large Rifle primer Standard - OAL 87.50 mm). Other sources indicate a dose of N -160 between 55.0 and 59.0 grs . with the same type of ball. Careful experimentation , starting with a dose reduced by 10 % compared to the indicated dose as MINIMUM , allowing you to identify the right dose for your weapon . Always act with the utmost caution and keep an eye out for signs of overpressure ! TECHNICAL NOTES (6) - according to some literature sources , optimal charging (NB usually " optimal " means that 100m recharging is able to generate 5 shots of pink with a diameter of 20mm or less !) With the ball 180 - 181grs . weight would be made up of a type of RWS TUG pushed by 59.0 grs . Norma MRP powder ( priming Large Rifle Standard - OAL 86.00 mm). Other sources indicate a dose of MRP between 55.0 and 59.0 grs . with the same type of ball. Careful experimentation , starting with a dose reduced by 10 % compared to the indicated dose as MINIMUM , allowing you to identify the right dose for your weapon . Always act with the utmost caution and keep an eye out for signs of overpressure ! TECHNICAL NOTES (7) - according to some literature sources , optimal charging (NB usually " optimal " means that 100m recharging is able to generate 5 shots of pink with a diameter of 20mm or less !) With the ball 180 - 181grs . weight would be made up of a type of RWS TUG pushed by 56.0 grs . dust RWS R -905 ( Large Rifle primer Standard - OAL 86.00 mm). Other sources indicate a dose of R -905 between 52.0 and 56.0 grs . with the same type of ball. Careful experimentation , starting with a dose reduced by 10 % compared to the indicated dose as MINIMUM , allowing you to identify the right dose for your weapon . Always act with the utmost caution and keep an eye out for signs of overpressure ! TECHNICAL NOTES (8) - in reference to the ball 175 - 185grs . weight , certain literature sources indicate a dose of N -540 between 46.0 and 50.0 grs . in order to obtain " ... optimal charging ... " ( NB usually "optimal" means that at 100m charging is able to generate pinkish of 5 shots from 20mm diameter or less !) . The primers are of type Large Rifle Standard , while the length of the cartridge is 95.00 mm . Careful experimentation , starting with a dose reduced by 10 % compared to the indicated dose as MINIMUM , allowing you to identify the right dose for your weapon . Always act with the utmost caution and keep an eye out for signs of overpressure ! TECHNICAL NOTES (9) - in reference to the ball 175 - 185grs . weight , certain literature sources indicate a dose of N -150 between 46.0 and 52.0 grs . in order to obtain " ... optimal charging ... " ( NB usually "optimal" means that at 100m charging is able to generate pinkish of 5 shots from 20mm diameter or less !) . The primers are of type Large Rifle Standard , while the length of the cartridge is 95.00 mm . Careful experimentation , starting with a dose reduced by 10 % compared to the indicated dose as MINIMUM , allowing you to identify the right dose for your weapon . Always act with the utmost caution and keep an eye out for signs of overpressure ! TECHNICAL NOTES (10) - in reference to the ball 175 - 185grs . weight , certain literature sources indicate a dose of N -550 between 48.0 and 53.0 grs . in order to obtain " ... optimal charging ... " ( NB usually "optimal" means that at 100m charging is able to generate pinkish of 5 shots from 20mm diameter or less !) . The primers are of type Large Rifle Standard , while the length of the cartridge is 95.00 mm . Careful experimentation , starting with a dose reduced by 10 % compared to the indicated dose as MINIMUM , allowing you to identify the right dose for your weapon . Always act with the utmost caution and keep an eye out for signs of overpressure ! TECHNICAL NOTES (11) - in reference to the ball 175 - 185grs . weight , certain literature sources indicate a dose of N -160 between 56.0 and 61.0 grs . in order to obtain " ... optimal charging ... " ( NB usually "optimal" means that at 100m charging is able to generate pinkish of 5 shots from 20mm diameter or less !) . The primers are of type Large Rifle Standard , while the length of the cartridge is 95.00 mm . Careful experimentation , starting with a dose reduced by 10 % compared to the indicated dose as MINIMUM , allowing you to identify the right dose for your weapon . Always act with the utmost caution and keep an eye out for signs of overpressure ! TECHNICAL NOTES (12) - in reference to the ball 175 - 185grs . weight , certain literature sources indicate a dose of N -560 between 56.0 and 64.0 grs . in order to obtain " ... optimal charging ... " ( NB usually "optimal" means that at 100m charging is able to generate pinkish of 5 shots from 20mm diameter or less !) . The primers are of type Large Rifle Standard , while the length of the cartridge is 95.00 mm . Careful experimentation , starting with a dose reduced by 10 % compared to the indicated dose as MINIMUM , allowing you to identify the right dose for your weapon . Always act with the utmost caution and keep an eye out for signs of overpressure ! ball 190grs . semiblindato type , open toe or toe polycarbonate , various types ( OAL typical from 91.00 to 95.00 mm) powder (type) dose ( grs. ) N -150 45.0 (min) - 50.0 (MAX) N -550 47.5 (min) - 54.5 (MAX) N -160 52.5 (min) - 59.5 (MAX) N -560 55.0 (min) - 63.5 (MAX) WW -748 40.0 (min) - 47.0 (MAX) WW- 760 49.5 (min) - 53.0 (MAX) IMR- 4895 41.5 (min) - 47.0 (MAX) IMR- 4064 42.0 (min) - 48.0 (MAX) IMR- 4320 43.5 (min) - 49.5 (MAX) IMR -4350 46.5 (min) - 55.5 (MAX) IMR- 4831 48.5 (min) - 57.5 (MAX) Norma -204 47.5 (min) - 53.5 (MAX) MRP 55.5 (min) - 58.5 (MAX) H -1000 54.0 (min) - 61.5 (MAX) TECHNICAL NOTES (1) - in reference to the ball 190grs . weight , certain literature sources indicate a dose of N -150 between 46.0 and 51.0 grs . in order to obtain " ... optimal charging ... " ( NB usually "optimal" means that at 100m charging is able to generate pinkish of 5 shots from 20mm diameter or less !) . The primers are of type Large Rifle Standard , while the length of the cartridge is 95.00 mm . Careful experimentation , starting with a dose reduced by 10 % compared to the indicated dose as MINIMUM , allowing you to identify the right dose for your weapon . Always act with the utmost caution and keep an eye out for signs of overpressure ! TECHNICAL NOTES (2) - in reference to the ball 190grs . weight , certain literature sources indicate a dose of N -550 between 49.0 and 55.0 grs . in order to obtain " ... optimal charging ... " ( NB usually "optimal" means that at 100m charging is able to generate pinkish of 5 shots from 20mm diameter or less !) . The primers are of type Large Rifle Standard , while the length of the cartridge is 95.00 mm . Careful experimentation , starting with a dose reduced by 10 % compared to the indicated dose as MINIMUM , allowing you to identify the right dose for your weapon . Always act with the utmost caution and keep an eye out for signs of overpressure ! TECHNICAL NOTES (3) - in reference to the ball 190grs . weight , certain literature sources indicate a dose of N -160 between 54.0 and 60.0 grs . in order to obtain " ... optimal charging ... " ( NB usually "optimal" means that at 100m charging is able to generate pinkish of 5 shots from 20mm diameter or less !) . The primers are of type Large Rifle Standard , while the length of the cartridge is 95.00 mm . Careful experimentation , starting with a dose reduced by 10 % compared to the indicated dose as MINIMUM , allowing you to identify the right dose for your weapon . Always act with the utmost caution and keep an eye out for signs of overpressure ! TECHNICAL NOTES (4) - in reference to the ball 190grs . weight , certain literature sources indicate a dose of N -560 between 57.0 and 64.0 grs . in order to obtain " ... optimal charging ... " ( NB usually "optimal" means that at 100m charging is able to generate pinkish of 5 shots from 20mm diameter or less !) . The primers are of type Large Rifle Standard , while the length of the cartridge is 95.00 mm . Careful experimentation , starting with a dose reduced by 10 % compared to the indicated dose as MINIMUM , allowing you to identify the right dose for your weapon . Always act with the utmost caution and keep an eye out for signs of overpressure ! ball 200grs . semiblindato type , open toe or toe polycarbonate , various types ( OAL typical 95,00 mm) powder (type) dose ( grs. ) N -150 43.0 (min) - 48.5 (MAX) N -160 52.0 (min) - 58.5 (MAX) N -560 54.0 (min) - 63.0 (MAX) WW- 760 46.0 (min) - 51.0 (MAX) WW WMR 50.0 (min) - 56.5 (MAX) IMR- 4895 39.5 (min) - 47.0 (MAX) IMR- 4064 40.0 (min) - 47.0 (MAX) IMR- 4320 41.0 (min) - 48.5 (MAX) IMR -4350 45.5 (min) - 54.0 (MAX) IMR- 4831 47.5 (min) - 56.5 (MAX) MRP 54.0 (min) - 57.5 (MAX) H -1000 52.0 (min) - 59.5 (MAX) TECHNICAL NOTES (1) - according to some literature sources , optimal charging (NB usually " optimal " means that 100m recharging is able to generate 5 shots of pink with a diameter of 20mm or less !) To be used ONLY with the ball 200grs . Weight with a homogeneous structure ( homogeneous bullet / solid bullet ) would consist of 54.0 grs . Norma MRP powder ( priming Large Rifle Standard - 90.00 mm OAL ) . Other sources indicate a dose of MRP between 50.0 and 54.0 grs . with the same type of ball. Careful experimentation , starting with a dose reduced by 10 % compared to the indicated dose as MINIMUM , allowing you to identify the right dose for your weapon . Always act with the utmost caution and keep an eye out for signs of overpressure ! TECHNICAL NOTES (2) - in reference to the ball 200grs . weight , certain literature sources indicate a dose of N -150 between 45.0 and 49.0 grs . in order to obtain " ... optimal charging ... " ( NB usually "optimal" means that at 100m charging is able to generate pinkish of 5 shots from 20mm diameter or less !) . The primers are of type Large Rifle Standard , while the length of the cartridge is 95.00 mm . Careful experimentation , starting with a dose reduced by 10 % compared to the indicated dose as MINIMUM , allowing you to identify the right dose for your weapon . Always act with the utmost caution and keep an eye out for signs of overpressure ! TECHNICAL NOTES (3) - in reference to the ball 200grs . weight , certain literature sources indicate a dose of N -160 between 54.0 and 59.0 grs . in order to obtain " ... optimal charging ... " ( NB usually "optimal" means that at 100m charging is able to generate pinkish of 5 shots from 20mm diameter or less !) . The primers are of type Large H. Cole Stage III, FRGS ISC(PJ), USN (Ret) "You do not have a right to an opinion. An opinion should be the result of careful thought, not an excuse for it." Harlan Ellison " War is God's way to teach Americans geography." Ambrose Bierce | ||
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I ran into that site when I was looking for 450/400NE data, before the Hornady book came out. Was helpful, had a lot of data. There is also a copy of the Deva data on the Tirmailly forum out of France. Strangely enough, one of the local stores has had brass, he is out of it at the moment,but, just brought in a case of 165gr RWS ammo to put on the shelf. Krieghoff Classic 30R Blaser Stevens 044-1/2 218 Bee Ruger #1A 7-08 Rem 700 7-08 Tikka t3x lite 6.5 creedmo Tikka TAC A1 6.5 creedmo Win 1885 300H&H. 223Rem Merkel K1 7 Rem mag CCFR | |||
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Bwanacole Thank you for sharing information. I think calibre 30 R is very forgiving when reloading. I have been reloading it since the 90 ties , first for a BBF 95 and then for a K95. Using 3006 load data ,then adding a little more powder. Using what ever component I could get . Mostly disassembling 308 and 3006 ammo. 165 grainers at 2900 fps and 180 grs at 2800 fps. It always shoot straight , no pressure issues. Many game taken. And the joy of having something different that works . Pulki.. | |||
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