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I probably know the answer but I noticed my Wilkinson 470 has very nice barrel crowns. My Markell .500 has none. Is this just a cost saving measure? It kind of annoys me but I can’t really complain much about the rifle. I could pay a lot more for something with a barrel crown I guess...And it shoots very nice.... Do most doubles have crowns? White Mountains Arizona | ||
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Most of my vintage doubles have a crown. Perhaps 20% do not. Cal _______________________________ Cal Pappas, Willow, Alaska www.CalPappas.com www.CalPappas.blogspot.com 1994 Zimbabwe 1997 Zimbabwe 1998 Zimbabwe 1999 Zimbabwe 1999 Namibia, Botswana, Zambia--vacation 2000 Australia 2002 South Africa 2003 South Africa 2003 Zimbabwe 2005 South Africa 2005 Zimbabwe 2006 Tanzania 2006 Zimbabwe--vacation 2007 Zimbabwe--vacation 2008 Zimbabwe 2012 Australia 2013 South Africa 2013 Zimbabwe 2013 Australia 2016 Zimbabwe 2017 Zimbabwe 2018 South Africa 2018 Zimbabwe--vacation 2019 South Africa 2019 Botswana 2019 Zimbabwe vacation 2021 South Africa 2021 South Africa (2nd hunt a month later) ______________________________ | |||
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assuming you mean the appearance a curvature to the finished end of the barrel as technically all rifled barrels are "crowned" as the rifling ends yielding the top of a quote- "crown " in appearance some crowns are perpendicular others may be internally recessed, angled, multi-angled or rounded an yes, i too prefer the asthetics of a rounded barrel end on a DR rather than a blunt end cut DuggaBoye-O NRA-Life Whittington-Life TSRA-Life DRSS DSC HSC SCI | |||
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Barrel crowns are to protect the rifling from damage correct? I assume a blunt end was “un” crowned which is what’s on my Merkel. The 470 has a nice angled crown. Some of my bolt rifles have “target crowns” which are a recess cut. So has anyone had a problem with “no crown” on their doubles? Also the end of the barrel is not blued as well and bare metal. I would say it does not look as good I was thinking of cold bluing it just to make it look better? But overal it all probably does not matter. White Mountains Arizona | |||
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Both of my double rifles have crowned barrels as do all my other rifles. NRA Life Benefactor Member, DRSS, DWWC, Whittington Center,Android Reloading Ballistics App at http://www.xplat.net/ | |||
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The only reason rille barrels have recessed or rounded crowns is to prevent damage to the rifling if you set the muzzled down on rocks. Do not do that and you will be fine. | |||
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ABSOLUTELY! However, if GUNSLINGER is worried about it, any gun smith worth his salt can crown the barrels for you. However I have never seen a double rifle owner place his muzzles down on rocks, and as long as the rifle shoots properly, the crowning is not a necessary item. …………...…….........…...…......  Mac D....Mac >>>===(x)===> MacD37, ...and DUGABOY1 DRSS Charter member "If I die today, I've had a life well spent, for I've been to see the Elephant, and smelled the smoke of Africa!"~ME 1982 Hands of Old Elmer Keith  | |||
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The reason they have a crown I’m pretty sure is inadverdant damage to muzzle. No one I know puts a rifle muzzle down on rocks intentionally. Do you? Agreed it can be done easily but with regulation being so finicky I would say that may possibly be a bad idea ? Anyone done it? White Mountains Arizona | |||
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Recently received my Cogswell & Harrison version of a Paradox back from Ken Owen. I could not get it to regulate. He has done it and part of the work was to recrown the barrels, something he noted is essential for best regulation on some guns/rifles. He has also made up and sent some 40 rounds of Fosbery-style ammunition and a mold for casting the right weight and size of projectile. Regards, Tim | |||
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Having built, and regulated a few DRs, I can say that as long as the muzzles are uniform, the existence of any type of crown, or the lack thereof, makes no difference. Bullets leaving the muzzle squarely is what is important. Now, a non uniform crown can definitely make the bullets go ary. In fact,, you can regulate them by doing just that; making the crown steer the bullet. So do not think that the lack of a crown, i.e., if your rifle has flat muzzles, that affects regulation. | |||
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There is a VERY well known established benchrest rifle maker who makes the argument that the best “crown” is flat and perfectly perpendicular to the bore at the last few inches of its length. He then went on to say the 11 degree target crown or rounded crowns were the worst especially if groove depth wasn’t exactly the same. The things benchrest guys sit around and mentally masturbate about... Stands to reason if accuracy and protection were both considered a recessed crown would be best. http://www.facebook.com/profil...p?id=100001646464847 A.M. Little Bespoke Gunmakers LLC 682-554-0044 Michael08TDK@yahoo.com | |||
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I cut a recessed "target" crown when possible. 90 degrees to the bore. Not on DRs; it looks funny on those. | |||
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Down at the 4K ranch on one our DRSS post DSC convention hunts a guide down at the ranch asked me why we never put our double rifles muzzle down on the floor instead of up toward the ceiling while riding in the hunting vhicle to our blinds from camp. To which I replied because we don't want to spend a large amount of money to re-crown a double rifle that regulates perfectly and may not if one or both muzzles were damaged destroying the regulation of a double rifle! He just looked at me like I was speaking Russian, instead of English. ......……….........…........  ....Mac >>>===(x)===> MacD37, ...and DUGABOY1 DRSS Charter member "If I die today, I've had a life well spent, for I've been to see the Elephant, and smelled the smoke of Africa!"~ME 1982 Hands of Old Elmer Keith | |||
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Agreed to all points White Mountains Arizona | |||
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So there ya go...I might add that the barrels on a double rifle are so thin as a rule, I would just as soon they were flat.. Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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