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I understand that Chapuis will offer the 375 flanged chambering. Will this be on the same action as the 9.3 ? Any ideas about the approximate weight in 375 flanged? | ||
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9,3X74mm is more easy to find and is really comparable to .375 flanged, power speaking. I would choose the german round. | |||
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Not interested in a 9.3 vs 375 debate. Just trying to find out if the 375 flanged is on the same action (size) as the 9.3. Any help appreciated. | |||
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I believe the 375 is on a larger action. ****************************************************************** R. Lee Ermey: "The deadliest weapon in the world is a Marine and his rifle." ****************************************************************** We're going to be "gifted" with a health care plan we are forced to purchase and fined if we don't, Which purportedly covers at least ten million more people, without adding a single new doctor, but provides for 16,000 new IRS agents, written by a committee whose chairman says he doesn't understand it, passed by a Congress that didn't read it but exempted themselves from it, and signed by a President, with funding administered by a treasury chief who didn't pay his taxes, for which we'll be taxed for four years before any benefits take effect, by a government which has already bankrupted Social Security and Medicare, all to be overseen by a surgeon general who is obese, and financed by a country that's broke!!!!! 'What the hell could possibly go wrong?' | |||
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I have held off on the Chapuis in 9.3 X 74, but in a 375 flanged, things become confused, sigh. Any more information? Jim "Bwana Umfundi" NRA | |||
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Chapuis builds their .375 H & H on a slightly larger action than the 9.3. What's the mystery? ------------------------------------------------- "Serious rifles have two barrels, everything else just burns gunpowder." | |||
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The mystery? Didn't know the size of the action that the 375 Flanged was going to be offered in. IF, IF, IF is was the same as the 9.3 then the debate begins. DRSS & Bolt Action Trash | |||
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Yes, then one needs to wonder what the weight will be. No need for a 9 1/2lb 375FL. JPK  Free 500grains | |||
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Their .375 H & H Belted Rimless Magnum has always been built on a slightly larger action. I can't imagine that they wouldn't build the .375 Flanged Magnum on the same action. The Flanged Magnum has a slightly lower chamber pressure than the 9.3, but has a larger case head. ----------------------------------------------- "Serious rifles have two barrels, everything else just burns gunpowder." | |||
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So if it is a "slightly lower cahmber pressure vs a slightly larger case head"... why not the 375 flanged on the same size action? I think in would sell very well. | |||
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...larger case head. Nobody does it that I know of. ------------------------------------------------- "Serious rifles have two barrels, everything else just burns gunpowder." | |||
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Hmmm. Holland & Holland, inventors of the .375s, has a used .375 Magnum "Royal" for sale on their web site that is 10lbs 14 oz. They also have two brand new .375 Royals for sale that are 9lbs 9 oz and 10 lbs 2 oz. Purdey has a brand new .375 best SLE for sale that is 9 lbs 14 oz. Merkel's 140 in .375 is 10.5 lbs. Heym's .375 boxlock ususally comes in at 9.5 and, nearly as I can tell, so does the Chapuis. I guess none of those incompetent hacks knows anything about building double rifles.    | |||
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Looking at the frame size of the 9,3Chapuis I would think the 375 Flanged Mag will be on the same frame as the 375 H&H. I really like the size and weight of my 9,3 Chapuis [7.25 lbs without scope].In the last several years I have taken a larger number of animals, and a wider variety of animals with the 9,3 vs my other rifles. I have found it to be a superb hunting rifle. I have not found the "power" of the 9,3 to be lacking in any way. DOUBLE RIFLE SHOOTERS SOCIETY | |||
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Guys, I have to agree with dao and N E 450 No2 here. If you go to the Kynoch web site you will see that they load their 300 grain .375 flanged ammo to 2425 fps. However, that is out of a 28 inch barrel. I would bet that out of a 24 or 26 inch barrel, it probably is not making 2400 fps. I would also be willing to bet that you can get an honest 2360 fps out of a 9,3X74R with a 286 grain bullet. Your cape buffalo would not know the difference. The big plus about the 9,3 is that it makes up into such a light, handy rifle. The Blaser S2 is only 7.7 lbs. Both the Merkel and Krieghoffs are lighter still. Most of the .375's doubles are built two or more pounds heavier. Dave Dave DRSS Chapuis 9.3X74 Chapuis "Jungle" .375 FL Krieghoff 500/.416 NE Krieghoff 500 NE "Git as close as y can laddie an then git ten yards closer" "If the biggest, baddest animals on the planet are on the menu, and you'd rather pay a taxidermist than a mortician, consider the 500 NE as the last word in life insurance." Hornady Handbook of Cartridge Reloading (8th Edition). | |||
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The 375 H&H and the 375 Flanged are two completely different animals.... The question on weight are very legitimate. Jim "Bwana Umfundi" NRA | |||
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The reason I assume the Chapuis 375 is on a larger action is because the cost of a 375 is much higher than a double in 9.3 and smaller rounds. ****************************************************************** R. Lee Ermey: "The deadliest weapon in the world is a Marine and his rifle." ****************************************************************** We're going to be "gifted" with a health care plan we are forced to purchase and fined if we don't, Which purportedly covers at least ten million more people, without adding a single new doctor, but provides for 16,000 new IRS agents, written by a committee whose chairman says he doesn't understand it, passed by a Congress that didn't read it but exempted themselves from it, and signed by a President, with funding administered by a treasury chief who didn't pay his taxes, for which we'll be taxed for four years before any benefits take effect, by a government which has already bankrupted Social Security and Medicare, all to be overseen by a surgeon general who is obese, and financed by a country that's broke!!!!! 'What the hell could possibly go wrong?' | |||
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OK Roscoe, which 375 are you talking about????? Jim "Bwana Umfundi" NRA | |||
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400, Using your own logic, none of those "incompetent hacks" you list would have built double rifles for rimless, belted rounds, eh? Which is it? They will build the wrong gun to suit a wrong headed customer or they always build the right gun the right way? Can't be whichever suits your fancy at the moment. Actually, 9 1/2lbs is ok, but more is too heavy. JPK Free 500grains | |||
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I agree with JPK. Anything more than 9.5 lbs for a flanged .375 is too heavy. My Ruger Safari Magnum in .375 H&H weighs in at nearly ten pounds without a scope. That's to heavy for a .375. Nine pounds or maybe a little under would be just about right. Dave DRSS Chapuis 9.3X74 Chapuis "Jungle" .375 FL Krieghoff 500/.416 NE Krieghoff 500 NE "Git as close as y can laddie an then git ten yards closer" "If the biggest, baddest animals on the planet are on the menu, and you'd rather pay a taxidermist than a mortician, consider the 500 NE as the last word in life insurance." Hornady Handbook of Cartridge Reloading (8th Edition). | |||
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Not really, at least not in the way that you mean. Excepting the belt, base diameters are the same, so the same action is used. Not much difference in performance either, just a substantial difference in pressure. Keep in mind that the general characteristics of .375 Magnum double rifles today were developed long ago around the Flanged Magnum, not the Belted Rimless which was neither intended nor designed for use in double rifles. The ill conceived "convenience" fad of putting rimless cartridges in double rifles in more recent years has resulted in the Belted Rimless being chambered in rifles designed for the Flanged Magnum, not the other way round. ------------------------------------------------ "Serious rifles have two barrels, everything else just burns gunpowder." | |||
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The original idea behind this post was: IF I could buy a 375 Flanged (not belted/mag) for the same money and weight, then based on my personal likes I'd opt for the 375 Flanged. But if the difference is a couple of pounds and a couple of grand, then I'll probably go for the 9.3. | |||
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In my CZ anyway, I can get near 375H&H velocities with the 9.3 300 gr. bullets, so a 9.3x74R is probably just as good in practice. The last 375H&H I had only weighed 7.5 lbs., and that was plenty. I don't understand why one needs to weigh 9 or 10 or more lbs. Thank your lucky stars that you can get a Chapuis 9.3 at 7.25 lbs. Not to mention also with a single trigger! ------------------------------- Will Stewart / Once you've been amongst them, there is no such thing as too much gun. --------------------------------------- and, God Bless John Wayne. NRA Benefactor Member, GOA, N.A.G.R. _________________________ "Elephant and Elephant Guns" $99 shipped “Hunting Africa's Dangerous Game" $20 shipped. red.dirt.elephant@gmail.com _________________________ Hoping to wind up where elephant hunters go. | |||
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