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I was at the range this morning and had a chance to shoot my little Chapuis across the chronograph. The load that I used was from Graeme Wrights book, SHOOTING THE BRITISH DOUBLE RIFLE, 57 grains of Reloder 15 and a 286 Woodleigh round nose. The book suggest 2250 out of 23.6 inch barrel. I got 2252 fps but it wasn't the most consistent load. There was an extreme spread of 42 fps. I am going to try H4350 instead.


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How did it print on the paper ? (ie Regulate ?)


Also, in getting the 42 fps spread, did you notice the barrel groups and overall group opening up or closing up ?

Reason I ask is this can often show if your gun is sensitive or very sensitive to fps variations and is often useful to know.

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500N:

It seems to regulate pretty well. However, I think I may get a more consistent velocity with H4350. There are also loads for H4350 in Graeme's book as well. It seems to regulate right around 2240-2250 fps.


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Try 65 grns of IMR 4831. It works great in my Chapuis.


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Mike,
Do you get any muzzle blast with the IMR4831? I love this powder. I pick up a new RGEX Chapuis 9.3x74 Friday, for my wife. It has 22" tubes...easier for her to handle. I would like to try the 4831, but worry about muzzle blast with the slow powder in the short barrels.
How long are your barrels?
Thanks, ND Smiler


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It works fine. Big Grin
I don't shoot after dark so no blast that I can see.


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Remember it isn't so much about velocity as it is what regulates the best. 42 FPS extreme spread seems very good to me, when you consider two barrels.


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In my Chapuis I use 65 gr of IMR 4831 with the 286gr Woodleigh Soft and Solid, the Nosler Partition, and the 285gr Hawk with the .035jkt.

All hit close enough together to about 250 yards to be used interchangeably.

The Pointed Nosler Partitions do hit "flatter at 300 yards...


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Originally posted by N E 450 No2:
In my Chapuis I use 65 gr of IMR 4831 with the 286gr Woodleigh Soft and Solid, the Nosler Partition, and the 285gr Hawk with the .035jkt.

All hit close enough together to about 250 yards to be used interchangeably.

The Pointed Nosler Partitions do hit "flatter at 300 yards...

Gee everyone knows you can’t shoot a double past 50 yards!!!! jumping


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Gee everyone knows you can’t shoot a double past 50 yards!!!! jumping



If you took that 10 Gallon Texas hat off, you might be able to see past 50 yards
and then you will be able to shoot past 50 yards !!! Big Grin

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Just for the record, I have shot and killed;
A coyote at 287 yards, a kudu at a little over 300 yards with my scoped 9,3x74R Chapuis, and a Giraffe at 188 yards with my iron sighted 450 No2. All of the above were witnessed, and in fact videoed...

I have also killed a caribou at 175 to 200 yards with my iron sighted 450/400 3 1/4".
Again witnessed by 2 others...

The reason is simple... I shot and practiced with my doubles, a BUNCH, at distances OUT TO 300 YARDS...

Same as I would do with ANY of my hunting rifles, bolt single shot or otherwise...


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My Limpa Creek hat and I take offense! Big Grin


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Rusty,

I had you pegged as more of Cattleman's style hat guy more like LBJ wore and would go with good cigars, great scotch and vintage doubles.

Hell with a hat like that you have to own cutting horses.

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I'm all hat and no cattle!


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