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I did a lot of shooting this weekend. On Saturday I went to American Shooting Centers and shot about 20 rounds through my 416 Rigby and 404 Jeffery from the bench, ouch!!!!! Then on Sunday (with a tender shoulder), I went to the Bayou Rifles range with Mike Jines and Bill Clayton. Mike was gracious enough to let Bill and I shoot his Elephant-Slaying 500 Nitro’s (Kriegoff and Merkel). First, I shot his Merkel 500 offhand. Immediately after the shot, I was seeing stars and the clear blue sky looked a hazy green. I thought, “WOW!!!! This kicks a lot more than my 416 Rigby off the bench!!!” Mike asked which barrel had I fired, still seeing stars,…. I said…I’m not sure. So I opened the action to see which barrel fired. That’s when we learned I had doubled the 500. What a way to start, doubling a Merkel 500 Nitro. I have 4 two trigger double shotguns, and I have never doubled a shotgun. After the stars around my head faded away and the sky turned blue again, I thought I want to shoot it again. Shooting one barrel at a time had got to be much easier than two. And I have to say that shooting only one barrel was not all that bad. Of course I had a pretty stiff point of reference. Both the Merkel and Krieghoff were enjoyable to shoot. I would not want to shoot 40 rounds in a session, but normal practice and hunting situations would be very manageable. The power of those rifles is incredible. I also shot Bill’s Dakota in Rigby 416 with the Swarovski Z6, 1-6x24 EE. That scope was really nice!! Thanks Mike and Bill!! Go Duke!! | ||
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Enjoyed it Brad. The .500 is an elephant slaying caliber par excellence . . . but preferably used one barrel at a time. I wish I could say that I have nevered doubled the .500, but the reality is that I have doubled both the Merkel and Krieghoff. When I did it I was hunting. I have to say that doing it in the field is barely even noticeable. The best part about today, we shot a full box of .500 NE shells and I only had to shoot 4. Mike | |||
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Brad, You didn't fall for that old MJines trick?. . . "Hey these are special loads. They are real mild!" Glad you have joined the "I doubled a Big Bore Club"! I doubled a 470 and a 450/400 3 1/4. If you ever want a New Merkel 500 NE, I know where there is one for sale with BeLL Brass bullets and dies and ammo. Rusty We Band of Brothers! DRSS, NRA & SCI Life Member "I am rejoiced at my fate. Do not be uneasy about me, for I am with my friends." ----- David Crockett in his last letter (to his children), January 9th, 1836 "I will never forsake Texas and her cause. I am her son." ----- Jose Antonio Navarro, from Mexican Prison in 1841 "for I have sworn upon the altar of god eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man." Thomas Jefferson Declaration of Arbroath April 6, 1320-“. . .It is not for glory, nor riches, nor honours that we are fighting, but for freedom - for that alone, which no honest man gives up but with life itself.” | |||
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I hope no one minds a dumb question here from an amateur at double rifles (I have only the Searcy 400 and a little 30-30 conversion job), but - how does this doubling happen? Are you accidentally touching both triggers or is the cause "other"? Just curious because this could come under the heading "news I can use". Btw I have spent 40+ years shooting double shotguns with twin triggers and have also experienced doubling, but it was ONLY in the case of one gun (a 1930s A.H. Fox) that was mechanically worn out and in bad need of repair. It did this when quail shooting, and would not only double, but would open too. You should have seen that quail...it had more holes in it than it didn't.. Anyway, my DB rifles don't have intersecting sears or whatever it's called to prevent this. | |||
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I can't imagine a .500 doubling. My only expiriance with a rifle doubling was standing next to my hunting partner in Zim while he was shooting a wart hog with his 9.3x74 when both barrels went off. He fell backwards on his butt and exclaimed what the *F* just happend. That kind of reaction from a 9.3 makes me shudder at the thought of a .500 doing it. If I ever make it down to Texas I'll surely have to behave myself. You guys are a lot tuffer than I am. DRSS NRA life AK Master Guide 124 | |||
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It is a combination of the level of recoil and excitement (or anxiousness) in my opinion. The only time I have had it happen is when we were in very close on an elephant and it started to charge. I know that I was excited and when I pulled the front trigger, I probably did a little more than a squeeze and then with the combination of the harder than normal trigger pull and the recoil, ended up "strumming" the second trigger. It rarely happens at the range unless it is someone that is not familiar with the caliber and they are anticipating the recoil. The anxious trigger squeeze coupled with the recoil brings the trigger finger back against the second trigger. That is why some folks prefer to shoot the rear trigger first, then the front. Mike | |||
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At a DRSS hunt someone doubled a Searcy .577 N.E. I think it was Doc's rifle. The fellow "strummed" like Mike defined. It got everyones attention, for sure. Ouch! JudgeG ... just counting time 'til I am again finding balm in Gilead chilled out somewhere in the Selous. | |||
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I believe it was PWN375 who doubled the 577? Rusty We Band of Brothers! DRSS, NRA & SCI Life Member "I am rejoiced at my fate. Do not be uneasy about me, for I am with my friends." ----- David Crockett in his last letter (to his children), January 9th, 1836 "I will never forsake Texas and her cause. I am her son." ----- Jose Antonio Navarro, from Mexican Prison in 1841 "for I have sworn upon the altar of god eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man." Thomas Jefferson Declaration of Arbroath April 6, 1320-“. . .It is not for glory, nor riches, nor honours that we are fighting, but for freedom - for that alone, which no honest man gives up but with life itself.” | |||
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Rusty I believe it was 700 Nitro who doubled the 577 and PWN did it with pauls 500 Merkel. It was quite hot that day and several guys were having trouble. ****************************************************************** R. Lee Ermey: "The deadliest weapon in the world is a Marine and his rifle." ****************************************************************** We're going to be "gifted" with a health care plan we are forced to purchase and fined if we don't, Which purportedly covers at least ten million more people, without adding a single new doctor, but provides for 16,000 new IRS agents, written by a committee whose chairman says he doesn't understand it, passed by a Congress that didn't read it but exempted themselves from it, and signed by a President, with funding administered by a treasury chief who didn't pay his taxes, for which we'll be taxed for four years before any benefits take effect, by a government which has already bankrupted Social Security and Medicare, all to be overseen by a surgeon general who is obese, and financed by a country that's broke!!!!! 'What the hell could possibly go wrong?' | |||
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I have the dubious distinction of having doubled Paul's big 577 NE,in my case it happened because I think the gun's l.o.p was way out there for me,plus the fact that I was wearing a heavy winter jacket added to the problem,upon firing the right barrel my trigger finger slipped back onto the back trigger and kaboooom ha ha !! luckily I held onto the gun and did not clobber the person standing behind me which I would have,had the gun gone airborne,looking forward to shooting it again one of these days DRSS | |||
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I also doubled my 500 Searcy ,twice in a row,the first time I took it out after buf. Since then I have religiously trained myself to shoot rear trigger first-no more doubling! Australia I love a sunburnt country, A land of sweeping plains, Of ragged mountain ranges, Of drought and flooding rains. I love her far horizons, I love her jewel-sea, Her beauty and her terror The wide brown land for me! | |||
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Thanks Roscoe! You are correct! Rusty We Band of Brothers! DRSS, NRA & SCI Life Member "I am rejoiced at my fate. Do not be uneasy about me, for I am with my friends." ----- David Crockett in his last letter (to his children), January 9th, 1836 "I will never forsake Texas and her cause. I am her son." ----- Jose Antonio Navarro, from Mexican Prison in 1841 "for I have sworn upon the altar of god eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man." Thomas Jefferson Declaration of Arbroath April 6, 1320-“. . .It is not for glory, nor riches, nor honours that we are fighting, but for freedom - for that alone, which no honest man gives up but with life itself.” | |||
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Here are the three victims of doubling my two DRs. 577NitroExpress Double Rifle Shooters Society Francotte .470 Nitro Express If stupidity hurt, a lot of people would be walking around screaming... | |||
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I thought Rusty doubled the 500 there too but was not sure. That was a great event...one of the most fun that I was ever a part of. The hunting was bad but we made up for it with all the shooting. Cant imaginge how much $$ we shot over the two days. ****************************************************************** R. Lee Ermey: "The deadliest weapon in the world is a Marine and his rifle." ****************************************************************** We're going to be "gifted" with a health care plan we are forced to purchase and fined if we don't, Which purportedly covers at least ten million more people, without adding a single new doctor, but provides for 16,000 new IRS agents, written by a committee whose chairman says he doesn't understand it, passed by a Congress that didn't read it but exempted themselves from it, and signed by a President, with funding administered by a treasury chief who didn't pay his taxes, for which we'll be taxed for four years before any benefits take effect, by a government which has already bankrupted Social Security and Medicare, all to be overseen by a surgeon general who is obese, and financed by a country that's broke!!!!! 'What the hell could possibly go wrong?' | |||
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ROSCOE: I think Rusty doubled my .500 at the first DRSS hunt I attended in Crowell, TX. Then 700Nitro doubled the .577 at this event, then PWN375 doubled the .500 NE at this event also. 577NitroExpress Double Rifle Shooters Society Francotte .470 Nitro Express If stupidity hurt, a lot of people would be walking around screaming... | |||
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I think I double a 470. I shot your 500 and I remember saying that a doubled 470 wasn't as bad as a single 500! Rusty We Band of Brothers! DRSS, NRA & SCI Life Member "I am rejoiced at my fate. Do not be uneasy about me, for I am with my friends." ----- David Crockett in his last letter (to his children), January 9th, 1836 "I will never forsake Texas and her cause. I am her son." ----- Jose Antonio Navarro, from Mexican Prison in 1841 "for I have sworn upon the altar of god eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man." Thomas Jefferson Declaration of Arbroath April 6, 1320-“. . .It is not for glory, nor riches, nor honours that we are fighting, but for freedom - for that alone, which no honest man gives up but with life itself.” | |||
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Rusty: I stand corrected, fine sir! My apologies! 577NitroExpress Double Rifle Shooters Society Francotte .470 Nitro Express If stupidity hurt, a lot of people would be walking around screaming... | |||
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