Has anyone ever had a non rimmed bullet fail to eject/extract in there double?Iam talking rounds like the 416rigby & 375H&H & 30-06 etc.rimmless that Merkel& others chamber in there rifles.Especially the 375H&H.Ialways read where the non-rim bullets are not advised but have never read where the bullets actually hung up or slipped over the notch...just curious.

I have a .375H&H rimless, it has been to Africa
once, and never had a problem. But, I think
the underlying fear is that, in the "heat" of
battle, maybe one slips past the small extractor,
then there's a real problem. Remember, Westley,
and Holland both make these, and so its
probable that failures are essentially non-
existant.

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Originally posted by blackbearhunter:
Has anyone ever had a non rimmed bullet fail to eject/extract in there double?Iam talking rounds like the 416rigby & 375H&H & 30-06 etc.rimmless that Merkel& others chamber in there rifles.Especially the 375H&H.Ialways read where the non-rim bullets are not advised but have never read where the bullets actually hung up or slipped over the notch...just curious.

What is a non-rim BULLET????? Do you mean a rimless case?

BBH, the tiny little palls used to extract the rimless cartridges in a double rifle are quite suseptable to breakage, and the get jammed in the down position by dust. Addtionally, as 577ne states, it is easy to let a rim slip past the pall when reloading in a hurry, and when the rifle is slammed shut, it breaks the pall off. when it does that you better hope you don't need more that two shots!
No double rifle that will be used for dangerous game should ever be chambered for a rimless, or rimless belted cartridge, a single trigger, or an automatic safety.

The fact that the makers yeald to customer's plee for such rifles doesn't make it a good idea!

Many here will tell you that the reason not to get the rifle chambered for the 375 H&H cartridge is because of it's higher pressures, and that is a long term concern, but it is the rimless case that may get you killed, if it fails!

The thing to do is, simply stay away from the negative things that can be avoided, where DGR are concerned!

A dangerous game double rifle should always be chambered for a rimmed cartridge, double triggers, and a manual safety. Extractors or ejectors is a personal choice, that must be made by the owner. Bot ejectors, and extractors, have both benifites, and drawbacks.

Though it is light for Buffalo, I'd rather have a 9.3X74R double than a 375H&H belted rimless double for a DGR. Simply because of the rimmed case on the 9.3X74R, and mine is a Merkel as well, and has selective ejectors .

I also have have the Safari Merkel chambered for 470NE round that is one of only two chamberings by Merkel,that are acceptable for dangerous game hunting, IMO! The other is the 500NE! If their 375 was a 375 H&H flanged, I would have one of those as well, but not the rimless belted one!

Of course it is your money, and your butt that is on the line, not mine, so the choice is your's! .............THINK!

A friend of mine did have some ejection problems with his French made 375H&H double. This problem was fixed.
ozhunter

I have a 243 Merkel, a 318WR and a 375H&H Brno. I use the 243 primarily on rabbits (and we have, at times, a lot of them) and the 375 for plinking (50+ rounds at a session)and never have had a failure to eject.

As I shoot quite a lot, I do have an occasional problem with a head separation (in rimmed cartridge doubles as well). Some cases (eg Norma 9.3x74R, Bertram 375 Flanged Magnum) only last 3 firings and I would be much more concerned using 3 times fired cases than I would a rimless case.

mike