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Hello the crew. Well it looks like I own a WW Greener 12 Bore rifle. I was at the Game Fair in London over the weekend, and a WW Greener 12 Bore rifle followed me home. Hammer Gun Damascus Steel Barrels Recent Birmingham nitro proof Jones underlever Fully rifled bores 3 Leaf sight. 12x65 chambers Antique (Pre 1898 ) Now what? Anybody got any info ? I have sent an email to Graham Greener, but gun came with no info. So bullet weight and style and dram requirements are a mystery. Should be fun. Nitro    "Man is a predator or at least those of us that kill and eat our own meat are. The rest are scavengers, eating what others kill for them." Hugh Randall DRSS, BASA 470 Krieghoff, 45-70 inserts, 12 ga paradox, 20 ga DR Simson/Schimmel, 12 ga DR O/U Famars, 12 ga DR SXS Greener | ||
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Congrats! Looks like it is in beautiful condition. Gotta love gorgeous Damascus barrels. Mike | |||
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Nice. And, I'm glad to see Game Fair is back in play after they folded tent a few years ago. Will have to check their schedule for next year... Good hunting, | |||
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Congrats,nice piece,lots of fun ahead for you  DRSS | |||
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Well, if it followed you home you couldn't very well leave it outside... "If you’re innocent why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?”- Donald Trump | |||
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Those are really neat, unusual hammers, with some sort of rotating locking safety on the pin? Never seen that before. Is it rifled for the full length of the barrels or just the last part like a Paradox? | |||
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Beautiful rifle. I would start with Diggory Hadoke's great book on hammer guns and also Cal Pappas' very comprehensive book on bore rifles and their loads. This will get you started. | |||
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By the way, Nitro, what does that rifle weigh? I'm guessing 12-13 pounds or so. | |||
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Retracting strikers, little horn on the hammer draws them back, gun featured on page 82 of Diggory's book on hammer guns As i said RIFLE not Paradox. Feels like 12 pounds or so. I have Cal's book need to read it again. Nitro "Man is a predator or at least those of us that kill and eat our own meat are. The rest are scavengers, eating what others kill for them." Hugh Randall DRSS, BASA 470 Krieghoff, 45-70 inserts, 12 ga paradox, 20 ga DR Simson/Schimmel, 12 ga DR O/U Famars, 12 ga DR SXS Greener | |||
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Who do you use to get guns imported back into the US? On the plains of hesitation lie the bleached bones of ten thousand, who on the dawn of victory lay down their weary heads resting, and there resting, died. If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue, Or walk with Kings - nor lose the common touch... Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it, And - which is more - you'll be a Man, my son! - Rudyard Kipling Life grows grim without senseless indulgence. | |||
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Looks like the one from Mr. Marriot. Congratulations Chap!. Nice looking gun. DRSS: HQ Scandinavia. Chapters in Sweden & Norway | |||
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Congratulatons! 12s are great fun to shoot. I kept my Baker and sold my Whistler. If you need data I can send what I shoot in my 12. Is yours rifled for a ball or conical? Either way, I can give you Blue Dot that should regulate fine. Cheers, Cal _______________________________ Cal Pappas, Willow, Alaska www.CalPappas.com www.CalPappas.blogspot.com 1994 Zimbabwe 1997 Zimbabwe 1998 Zimbabwe 1999 Zimbabwe 1999 Namibia, Botswana, Zambia--vacation 2000 Australia 2002 South Africa 2003 South Africa 2003 Zimbabwe 2005 South Africa 2005 Zimbabwe 2006 Tanzania 2006 Zimbabwe--vacation 2007 Zimbabwe--vacation 2008 Zimbabwe 2012 Australia 2013 South Africa 2013 Zimbabwe 2013 Australia 2016 Zimbabwe 2017 Zimbabwe 2018 South Africa 2018 Zimbabwe--vacation 2019 South Africa 2019 Botswana 2019 Zimbabwe vacation 2021 South Africa 2021 South Africa (2nd hunt a month later) ______________________________ | |||
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Cal, I was planning to give you a PM, The gun will be sent to US and my smith will give it the once over, I will be home next year and then the adventure will begin. I will slug it and get the groove and land diameters and twist rate, and then we can work up some loads. The rifeling looks like "normal" rifeling to me though the lands are not very wide, what does ball and slug rifeling look like and how do they differ ? Bwana, It is antique gun (Pre 1898 ) so no import paperwork needed for US, British export permit needed, seller is arranging it. Regards Nitro "Man is a predator or at least those of us that kill and eat our own meat are. The rest are scavengers, eating what others kill for them." Hugh Randall DRSS, BASA 470 Krieghoff, 45-70 inserts, 12 ga paradox, 20 ga DR Simson/Schimmel, 12 ga DR O/U Famars, 12 ga DR SXS Greener | |||
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Dutch, this gun is in Diggory's book page 62 on "self acting " strikers. Bwana, This gun is 1868 so it is an Antique no importer needed I can bring it in by myself and it is Tax free. Just need a reciept of purchase that specifies age and fill out a CBP 7523. Nitro "Man is a predator or at least those of us that kill and eat our own meat are. The rest are scavengers, eating what others kill for them." Hugh Randall DRSS, BASA 470 Krieghoff, 45-70 inserts, 12 ga paradox, 20 ga DR Simson/Schimmel, 12 ga DR O/U Famars, 12 ga DR SXS Greener | |||
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Jens, were you at the Game Fair or did you see it on the website ? When and where is next fair similar to this, Germany, France or Belguim ? Regards Nitro "Man is a predator or at least those of us that kill and eat our own meat are. The rest are scavengers, eating what others kill for them." Hugh Randall DRSS, BASA 470 Krieghoff, 45-70 inserts, 12 ga paradox, 20 ga DR Simson/Schimmel, 12 ga DR O/U Famars, 12 ga DR SXS Greener | |||
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She is waiting on export permit at the exporter.  Nitro "Man is a predator or at least those of us that kill and eat our own meat are. The rest are scavengers, eating what others kill for them." Hugh Randall DRSS, BASA 470 Krieghoff, 45-70 inserts, 12 ga paradox, 20 ga DR Simson/Schimmel, 12 ga DR O/U Famars, 12 ga DR SXS Greener | |||
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Gun has finally landed. Will get chamber casts and bore slugs soon. Sights need to be tightened and striker needs to be replaced. And a good once over. Then the fun begins. Nitro "Man is a predator or at least those of us that kill and eat our own meat are. The rest are scavengers, eating what others kill for them." Hugh Randall DRSS, BASA 470 Krieghoff, 45-70 inserts, 12 ga paradox, 20 ga DR Simson/Schimmel, 12 ga DR O/U Famars, 12 ga DR SXS Greener | |||
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Enjoy it to the utmost!!! Hammer guns have a wonderful aspect to them, so photogenic... D/R Hunter Correct bullet placement, combined with the required depth of bullet penetration, results in an anchored animal... | |||
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