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IF you had a choice between either which one would you go for ? buying a Merkel which is nearly available straight off! or waiting a year or so for a Searcy ? | ||
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Searcy is the one I would choose! Rusty We Band of Brothers! DRSS, NRA & SCI Life Member "I am rejoiced at my fate. Do not be uneasy about me, for I am with my friends." ----- David Crockett in his last letter (to his children), January 9th, 1836 "I will never forsake Texas and her cause. I am her son." ----- Jose Antonio Navarro, from Mexican Prison in 1841 "for I have sworn upon the altar of god eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man." Thomas Jefferson Declaration of Arbroath April 6, 1320-“. . .It is not for glory, nor riches, nor honours that we are fighting, but for freedom - for that alone, which no honest man gives up but with life itself.” | |||
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I owned a Merkel 470. It did not fit me well and I never was comfortable shooting it. I sold it and bought a Searcy 470. The Searcy fits me perfectly because it was made for me. That fit has been very handy a couple times when I had to make a quick shot in very poor light. If you absolutely had to have one for a safari in the coming year the Merkel could be your best choice. Otherwise, I would wait to get the custom fit rifle even if it took two years. ALLEN W. JOHNSON - DRSS Into my heart on air that kills From yon far country blows: What are those blue remembered hills, What spires, what farms are those? That is the land of lost content, I see it shining plain, The happy highways where I went And cannot come again. A. E. Housman | |||
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I would prefer the Searcy ****************************************************************** R. Lee Ermey: "The deadliest weapon in the world is a Marine and his rifle." ****************************************************************** We're going to be "gifted" with a health care plan we are forced to purchase and fined if we don't, Which purportedly covers at least ten million more people, without adding a single new doctor, but provides for 16,000 new IRS agents, written by a committee whose chairman says he doesn't understand it, passed by a Congress that didn't read it but exempted themselves from it, and signed by a President, with funding administered by a treasury chief who didn't pay his taxes, for which we'll be taxed for four years before any benefits take effect, by a government which has already bankrupted Social Security and Medicare, all to be overseen by a surgeon general who is obese, and financed by a country that's broke!!!!! 'What the hell could possibly go wrong?' | |||
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merkel- much better handling | |||
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Like Palmer says if you need the rifle NOW, then the Merkel is the ticket! If you can wait, then the Searcy can't be beat for the price, and what you get for that price. The only draw back is the wait! If you can swing the price for the Merkel, and the 50% deposit on the Searcy, then buy the Merkel, use it while waiting for the Searcy, and sell it when it is time to pick up the Searcy, to pay the other 50% ! I have a Merkel 470NE, and luckily it fits me well, and is super accurate, and I bought it used, but as new with a lot of accesseries, and factory ammo, at a real bargain. I may do as I reccomend, place an order for a Searcy, and continue to use my Merkel till the Searcy is finished! There is a Searcy PH 500NE for $9000 at Cabela's in PA, that looks very good, if that interests you!  ....Mac >>>===(x)===> MacD37, ...and DUGABOY1 DRSS Charter member "If I die today, I've had a life well spent, for I've been to see the Elephant, and smelled the smoke of Africa!"~ME 1982 Hands of Old Elmer Keith  | |||
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Mac If you were to order a Searcy, what calibre would it be? DOUBLE RIFLE SHOOTERS SOCIETY | |||
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I have a Merkel 500NE. It fits me like a glove but I have been lucky. The Searcy guns are true custom, they are a step above Merkel in price but you get what you pay for. The Merkel was at the top of my price range and I got a steal of a deal on it. If I had the money I would give it to Butch. You can borrow money, but you can't borrow time. Don't wait, go now. Savannah Safaris Namibia Otjitambi Trails & Safaris DRSS NRA SCI DSC TSRA TMPA | |||
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As you may have learned from another thread, there is a Searcy .500 NE immediately available on Gunsamerica.com for $9K. | |||
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personal opinion: buy a Chapuis for $4500-6000 (see group buy)and put a deposit on a Searcy...tailored to fit. When the Searcy arrives, sell ME the Chapuis and make both of us very happy! Rich DRSS I am espousing the theory that dan/500gr has Alzheimer's Disease. The symptoms are eerily similar to what we see here. | |||
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It would be hard to keep me from ordering a 450/400NE 3", because I had to sell the last one I had, and still miss it badly! However, I might get a 450NE 3 1/4", because of the availability of good .458 bullets, and I don't think the 470NE will do anything better than the 450NE, and the 450NE is a more shooter friendly chambering that can be made lighter than the 470NE or 500NE!  ....Mac >>>===(x)===> MacD37, ...and DUGABOY1 DRSS Charter member "If I die today, I've had a life well spent, for I've been to see the Elephant, and smelled the smoke of Africa!"~ME 1982 Hands of Old Elmer Keith | |||
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I have a 450 3 1/4 at 11lbs 3oz. I wonder, how does the recoil of the 500NE at 1lb 4oz compare to 450? I realize that stock fit is important but I'm looking for a general comparison. The stock on my 450 is about 1/4 inch too short but the recoil is certainly bearable. That Searcy 15" is probably what the doctor ordered. Dutch Too tired to think of anything catchy to tag. | |||
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I own a searcy 500 nitro it fits me perfect,its very accurate and the quality is amazing its built like a panzer tank. I would order a searcy no question about it........ | |||
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I looked at all the doubles before ordering a Searcy in 450 NE. Like was mentioned before it is a little friendlier than the 470 or 500. Brass is not a problem. Jamison is producing brass from the old bell equipment. | |||
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driftwood Welcomed to AR. The 450 bore is my favorite double rifle calibre, I shoot a 450 No2. Do you have your 450 Searcy? If so what loads are you shooting in it? Have you tried the 350 gr Hornady. Are you aware of my 75% Rule? DOUBLE RIFLE SHOOTERS SOCIETY | |||
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Not yet have to wait till August for it to be delivered. Have corresponded with Phil Lazano who also shoots the 450 and he has given me some loads. Have purchased woodleighs, 480 grains, have powder in Reloader 15 and H4831 along with IMR 4831 for reloading. Purchased 200 cases. Getting ready and will shoot it frequently after I get it. Of course looking forward to it. Plan on using it for buffalo and elephant in Tanzania in 2009. Haven't heard of the 3/4 principle yet. Hope you will give me some insite. I have learned a great deal from the discussions on the African chat sites. | |||
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Driftwood I like RL 15 powder best, with filler of course. Either dacron [pillow stuffing you can get at the craft/sewing store] or foam that I cut out with a sharpened with a chamfer tool 50 BMG case. I like foam best.Once you get the proper load with the 480 Woodleighs, load the 350 Hornadays with the same powder charge. You might have to go up or down a grain or two to get perfect regulation but in several doubles the exact same charge will work. The 350 gr is about 75% the weight fo the 480's thus the name The 75% Rule. It works with 300gr bullets in the 450/400, and 350gr bullets in the 470 as well. DOUBLE RIFLE SHOOTERS SOCIETY | |||
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Cabelas in Hamburg, Pa. has a very nice, as new Searcy in 500 Nitro. for $10,000. Its really nice too. Get their # from the cabelas.com website. | |||
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Looks like they lowered it to $9000 since last week. A great price. | |||
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I called to buy it, but it was sold on Saturday. What should someone be paying for the basic model Merkel in .500NE? | |||
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If you shop around, you can probably find one new for $8500 or lower. 577NitroExpress Double Rifle Shooters Society Francotte .470 Nitro Express  If stupidity hurt, a lot of people would be walking around screaming... | |||
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for anybody who knows: why would you spend twice the money for the merkel over the chapuis? Seriously.... Rich DRSS NRA Life Member | |||
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Idaho Sharpshooter There are two different pricelines on Merkel and Chapuis double rifles. The doubles up to and including the 9,3x74R are quite a bit cheaper that the 375 and up doubles. Usually you can get a new 470 Merkel for less than you can get a new 470 Chapuis. DOUBLE RIFLE SHOOTERS SOCIETY | |||
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Personaly, I'd rather have a B.Searcy! Doc52 B. Searcy & Co .577 NE Double Rifle Shooters Society "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote!" Benjamin Franklin 1759 | |||
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