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Hemingway's .577 up for auction!
13 February 2011, 20:54
GatogordoHemingway's .577 up for auction!
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Buyers premium at JDJ is 15% btw.
You're right and I've corrected my above post to reflect that. However, after considering what Roosevelt's Fox sold for, I think I'm low. True, Hemingway is not a President, but I'm now thinking a hammer of over $500,000.
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13 February 2011, 20:54
Dutch44Really don't mind the single trigger if it is a WR. Probably the most mechanically sound single-trigger made. Don't ever remember Sutherland complaining about any failures and he owned two of them.
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14 February 2011, 01:47
John FrederickI would prefer no engraving at all, rather than those dreadful cartoon lookalikes.
14 February 2011, 02:14
bwanamrmCool post... thanks for bringing it to our attention Jeff! And just for the record, I personally would love to own it! Alas, I am afraid it is above my meager pay grade... I am guessing it will fetch $450K and will probably be purchased by a museum rather than a collector.
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14 February 2011, 03:36
FjoldWell, I'm not going to buy it because it's right handed.
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14 February 2011, 05:51
Michael Robinsonquote:
Originally posted by Dutch44:
Really don't mind the single trigger if it is a WR. Probably the most mechanically sound single-trigger made. Don't ever remember Sutherland complaining about any failures and he owned two of them.
Dutch
My feelings as well. Sutherland actually said that his ST Westley Richards doubles never failed him.
But then again, he only killed 1,200 elephants, so what did he know?

I'm no expert, but without the EH connection, I'd think that this rifle would bring somewhere around $100K, depending on the usual considerations.
This will be fun to watch.
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14 February 2011, 09:55
Austin HunterThat Rhino engraving (I guess that's a Rhino) looks like a baby Dinosaur!
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14 February 2011, 13:40
Milo ShanghaiOver 500k for that? Anything North of 50k is all Hemingway.
Why anyone would spill an extra 450k over intrinsic value is beyond me. Maybe it's because I particularly dislike WR but I just don't see it.
14 February 2011, 19:22
Jeff WemmerI'm going to venture forth that it will sell for between 150-250K, all in!
15 February 2011, 02:23
BaxterBquote:
Over 500k for that? Anything North of 50k is all Hemingway.
Why anyone would spill an extra 450k over intrinsic value is beyond me. Maybe it's because I particularly dislike WR but I just don't see it.
I've seen canceled checks of Hem's sell for 3 grand. Books for 25K - 30K. 500K aint a hell of a lot for a guy who wants to own something just so he can say he does.
15 February 2011, 04:09
HuviusJust for the hell of it,
I will guess that it will hammer at around $230K plus premium.
So, about $264,500 all in.
There are some other doubles in the auction. One that comes to mind is a really nice high condition Army & Navy.
15 February 2011, 20:37
<generalwar>Some folks love to pay for historical items! Damn look at what happened to that Fox last auction

My guess is 200 - 300k for this one and it wouldn't surprise me if it went even higher.
15 February 2011, 20:46
Cane Ratquote:
Originally posted by John Frederick:
I would prefer no engraving at all, rather than those dreadful cartoon lookalikes.
Awful, another poster mentioned the rhino looks like a dinosaur, I agree, it reminds me of the dinosaurs from "The Flintstones".
15 February 2011, 20:58
<generalwar>That was the style in those days by there factory engravers on WR floorplates, triggerbows etc..
Rare that you find exceptional engraving on a pre war Westley. Though it has occurred as seen below by Harry Kell.
15 February 2011, 22:11
gatsbyI can't really defend the stylized Westley animals but I like their standard tight scroll and have seen some real nice ancanthus wallpaper on their guns. I wouldn't mind having those funny animal engravings in my gun room at all.
17 February 2011, 00:06
Dago RedI like that front sight hood, looks stout.
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17 February 2011, 01:44
Dutch44Wes Dillon from Julia's called with descriptions of the Lancaster 450-400 3 1/4, Manton 470, and Army & Navy .500 NE. He emailed the full descriptions if anyone is interested give me a PM and I'll forward his descriptions. They are pretty thorough.
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17 February 2011, 01:53
Dutch44He thought I should bid on EH's .577 as well. I told him when a green monkey jumps out my rear-end. I could almost retire on that rifle.
Dutch
17 February 2011, 01:55
MJinesDutch, I would love to see the description on the Army & Navy .500. Email to mjines@live.com
Thanks!
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18 February 2011, 07:35
bwananelsonits the history not the gun,it should of stayed in key west a sad day
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18 February 2011, 23:16
Dave FulsonI am going to buy it ! Now, let me tell you about the FULSON FOUNDATION, a great group helping to raise money for underpaid TV producers...LOL
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19 February 2011, 01:42
CCMDocquote:
Originally posted by Dave Fulson:
I am going to buy it ! Now, let me tell you about the FULSON FOUNDATION, a great group helping to raise money for underpaid TV producers...LOL
Listen pal,
I've donated more than enough to the Fulson Fund with my purchases of "Boddington on..."
You should be able to afford a Lamborghini to transport that double from my purchases alone

And if you need more dough get with it and produce:
Boddington on Bunnies
Boddington on Jackalopes
Boddington on Beer Bellies
Boddington on Boddington
The list goes on and on and on ...
Thankfully, everything has been well worth it ...

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19 February 2011, 07:50
<generalwar>quote:
Originally posted by Dave Fulson:
I am going to buy it ! Now, let me tell you about the FULSON FOUNDATION, a great group helping to raise money for underpaid TV producers...LOL

20 February 2011, 19:09
shootawayThe man had taste.This is one of the nicest rifles I've seen.
20 February 2011, 19:35
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20 February 2011, 20:00
MacD37quote:
Originally posted by jorge:
Those animals look almost as bad as the Merkels!

The Scrollwork is superb though. Wonder how much it will fetch! jorge
The Rhino on that rifle is an Indian rhino and is not too far from correct on that rifle. The tiger is a much poorer reproduction!
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20 February 2011, 20:18
shootawayHey thanks MacD37! I honestly thought that was a warthog.
14 March 2011, 22:42
MJinesAuction is today. Anyone know what the rifle went for?
Mike
15 March 2011, 00:11
PD999quote:
Originally posted by Milo Shanghai:
Maybe it's because I particularly dislike WR but I just don't see it.
Why the dislike for WR?

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15 March 2011, 02:41
<generalwar>quote:
Originally posted by PD999:
quote:
Originally posted by Milo Shanghai:
Maybe it's because I particularly dislike WR but I just don't see it.
Why?
Apparently from lack of good taste.

News flash...it brought $300K at the hammer...wow!
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15 March 2011, 08:57
<generalwar>quote:
Originally posted by .404:
News flash...it brought $300K at the hammer...wow!
A friend from Georgia took it to $170k and bowed out, he said it was a total frenzy of bidding on that piece. Great gun lots of history there..
15 March 2011, 09:16
Mike Brooksquote:
Originally posted by generalwar:
A friend from Georgia took it to $170k and bowed out,
I bowed out a tad before that... Like when it went over $400.

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16 March 2011, 01:37
<generalwar>quote:
Originally posted by Mike Brooks:
quote:
Originally posted by generalwar:
A friend from Georgia took it to $170k and bowed out,
I bowed out a tad before that... Like when it went over $400.

I don't blame you. I didn't even bother bidding

16 March 2011, 04:13
enfieldsparesWhat puts me off is the AWFUL WR top lever system.
Nobody uses it now patents on the Scott system have expired as it is, quite frankly, an awful arrangement as the right hand horn on the lever always eventually wears.
16 March 2011, 05:07
larryshoresI don't care who owned it. It is ugly and has a single trigger.
16 March 2011, 10:31
NakihunterWell spotted Mac! I was planning to post on the matter & I see you got it right. Nice rifle.
quote:
Originally posted by MacD37:
quote:
Originally posted by jorge:
Those animals look almost as bad as the Merkels!

The Scrollwork is superb though. Wonder how much it will fetch! jorge
The Rhino on that rifle is an Indian rhino and is not too far from correct on that rifle. The tiger is a much poorer reproduction!
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17 March 2011, 02:17
Dave FulsonDamn it, I got all excited but blew my wad on the item right before the double. The good news is that I outbid Jeff Wemmer for PeeWee Hermans 1972 Daisy Red Rider custom lever action. It prints 5 BB's into a nickle at 10 yards. Am off after a rouge sparrow in the backyard tomorrow.
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17 March 2011, 02:21
JCS271quote:
Originally posted by Dave Fulson:
Damn it, I got all excited but blew my wad on the item right before the double. The good news is that I outbid Jeff Wemmer for PeeWee Hermans 1972 Daisy Red Rider custom lever action. It prints 5 BB's into a nickle at 10 yards.
I hear the action is a little sticky on that one!
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17 March 2011, 15:35
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