Thanks to everyone that stopped by the booth at the shows. It was good to catch up with those that did.

We received an abnormal amount of questions on the 700NE. I always thought of it as a bit of a novelty, but I would also like to investigate opinions here...

So, is there any real interest in a boxlock or sidelock 700 NE, or would we just be building them to say that we could?

I'm sure that Biebs will perk right up about that offering!

People always seem to want what they can't buy. Then when you tell them you can build it their response is "I'll think about it"

Novelty caliber as far as I am concerned. But hey, if they are willing to put down a hefty deposit you have nothing to lose.

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Originally posted by Snowwolfe:
People always seem to want what they can't buy. Then when you tell them you can build it their response is "I'll think about it"

Novelty caliber as far as I am concerned. But hey, if they are willing to put down a hefty deposit you have nothing to lose.

is the 700 not exactly practical is it? I know Cal likes them with the wheels and requires crew, but for a production guns. Really?

AKman:
Not quite my young and learned friend. The .700 is a creation from the 1980s and my only interest is in prewar English doubles (or Scotland). I don't think the .700 should be referred to as a nitro express (NE) as it was never loaded with cordite. It is a cool round but because it is a modern-day item I don't even have a cartridge in my collection of NE ammo.

As far as it is practical? Anything above the .450 class is not practical nor are they needed today. But they are fun and if practicality was the rule of law, we'd all be driving Yugos.

Are you coming up this weekend? Call or email as I may have a change of plans but won't know until later Friday night.
Cal

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Originally posted by cal pappas:
AKman:
Not quite my young and learned friend. The .700 is a creation from the 1980s and my only interest is in prewar English doubles (or Scotland). I don't think the .700 should be referred to as a nitro express (NE) as it was never loaded with cordite. It is a cool round but because it is a modern-day item I don't even have a cartridge in my collection of NE ammo.

As far as it is practical? Anything above the .450 class is not practical nor are they needed today. But they are fun and if practicality was the rule of law, we'd all be driving Yugos.

Are you coming up this weekend? Call or email as I may have a change of plans but won't know until later Friday night.
Cal

See, you learn something everyday! I love this place. I was planing to, but it depends on what time I leave Fairbanks and Road condition.

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I may have a change of plans but won't know until later Friday night.

Something more interesting than doubles? Stop being rude and introduce us to the young lady!

Bob

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Originally posted by Omnivorous_Bob:

Something more interesting than doubles? Stop being rude and introduce us to the young lady!

Bob

Who said she was young? Cal's getting long in the tooth too.

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Originally posted by Omnivorous_Bob:

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I may have a change of plans but won't know until later Friday night.

Something more interesting than doubles? Stop being rude and introduce us to the young lady!

Bob

Ok, here she is.

The above pic of Yoda IS my girl friend!
Guess how she got ears like that.
Cal

Speaking of the 700NE, there was a series of ultra bore NE rifles at the Holland & Holland booth in Reno. 577NE ($285,000), 600NE ($345,000), and 700NE (tag said "Don't Ask")!!

Here is the 700NE from H&H:

Above is a perfect example of why I admire so much the vintage rifles. While the above carries a huge price tag it lacks the refinement of the old rifles. I have handled the "Last .600" and when I compared it to the owner's other 14 .600s it was my least favorite. It, like above, is just too much, but does reflect contemporary taste in style.
I just love old weapons and old women and old cars. A character flaw, I'm sure.
Cheers, gents.
Cal

Cal,

Agreed. The 700 was way over the top with the dragons and such. But then again, a 700NE is a stunt anyway don't you think.

Here is the 600NE:


And the 577NE:


Not quite as "out there" as the dragon theme but still seem to be more of a show piece than a hunting arm.

I dunno about the 700 but I could carry that 450 Jaeger you had all damn day... lovely...

If a 700 H&H was a cataloged item I would have bought one years ago. Everytime I have asked makers I have been blown off with either "we don't and won't" or "do you have 250K?"

I don't care if it is modern or practical to each his own. I never thought I would want one but having a couple 577s and 600s the question to myself became why not? My guess based on nothing is that if anyone put it in a catologe with a real starting pricetag of roughly 40K that they would sell a couple a year. Not getting rich off them of course but certainly should be able to make a few bucks. Remember this is my 100% uneducated guess based only on me wanting one and what I would pay.

Cal, isn't it called the 700 H&H for a reason? It does burn nitro but certainly not ever a cordite cartridge. I may be wrong about the name but I have been told that Holland and Holland was originally adamant that it was not called the 700 Nitro Express.

Matthew

Matthewx:
Good day. .700 H&H is a correct termination as that is what it is. Many refer to it as a .700 nitro express and I feel this is incorrect and, if H&H stated no, then I guess I am correct.

Todd:
They are just too much of a, errr..., good thing. The extensive carving of both metal and wood is what has kept German rifles out of my gun cabinet. Kind of like comparing Anna Nicole Smith or Pam Anderson and Grace Kelly. All are beautiful but one has classy refinement with natural lines and the other(s) are attractive due to makeup, Botox, implants, etc.

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Originally posted by cal pappas:

Todd:
They are just too much of a, errr..., good thing. The extensive carving of both metal and wood is what has kept German rifles out of my gun cabinet. Kind of like comparing Anna Nicole Smith or Pam Anderson and Grace Kelly. All are beautiful but one has classy refinement with natural lines and the other(s) are attractive due to makeup, Botox, implants, etc.

Cal, what an excellent analogy!!

I was going to say something about Blasers and lipstick on a pig at this point since you alluded to it, but discretion being the better part of valor, I shall digress from further comment!

Todd:
The best emetic in the world is either a photo of Janet Reno or a photo of a Blaser.
Cheers, mate.
Cal

Surely, the people who own these own them as novelties, collectibles, fun-guns, as art works, or for bragging rights. It is difficult to image owning one as a field gun. They are huge and the one at SCI weighed eighteen pounds. When I asked, I was told that H&H have made about a dozen 700H&H double rifles.

I am sure that if someone wanted to order one with little or no engraving that H&H would be glad to quote a price and take their order. The same would apply to the 600 or 577, but it would seem a shame to let all that engravable surface go to waste. Heck, Cal, there's even enough space on that sidelock to engrave your portrait. However, I do agree that a simple, traditional English scroll would look much better than the deep carving and dragons but to each his own.

FWIW, the price tag on the 700H&H did not read "Don't Ask". It read "Prototype".

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Originally posted by Grenadier:


FWIW, the price tag on the 700H&H did not read "Don't Ask". It read "Prototype".

Surely you understand "Sarcasm"?

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Originally posted by Todd Williams:

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Originally posted by Grenadier:


FWIW, the price tag on the 700H&H did not read "Don't Ask". It read "Prototype".

Surely you understand "Sarcasm"?

Of course, Todd. But I bet some people would have missed your sarcasm and would believe that is what the tag actually said. And, because you listed the price of the others, I just thought I would mention it.

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Originally posted by cal pappas:
Todd:
The best emetic in the world is either a photo of Janet Reno or a photo of a Blaser.
Cheers, mate.
Cal

That made me chuckle.

If I had Comrade Putin's money I'd ignore the 700 H&H,
but I WOULD have as part of my collection a bolt action
magazine rifle in Hubel's 700 HE caliber for sure.
http://www.therichest.org/cele...mir-putin-net-worth/