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Chapuis
28 August 2015, 23:54
nitro450expChapuis
Hello
Anyone ever see a Chapius sidelock double in 9.3 x 72R?
Found a 2 barrel set. 20ga and 9.3.
Was it originally a shotgun and then they had Chapius add the 9.3?
Both barrels marked Chapius on the rib.
Any input?
Nitro
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29 August 2015, 00:26
Biebs9.3x72? That hasn't been a popular caliber for many years....the gun must be quite old? Perhaps you meant 9.3x74?
29 August 2015, 00:41
butchlocor even a 9.3x74

29 August 2015, 01:20
BiebsEven better!
29 August 2015, 01:43
nitro450expI am going on memory and mine is crap lately.
I think it was 72 but could have been 74.
I will try check on Sat.
Nitro
"Man is a predator or at least those of us that kill and eat our own meat are. The rest are scavengers, eating what others kill for them." Hugh Randall
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470 Krieghoff, 45-70 inserts, 12 ga paradox, 20 ga DR Simson/Schimmel, 12 ga DR O/U Famars, 12 ga DR SXS Greener
29 August 2015, 02:21
BiebsThere is, or was, a 9.3x72 as well, but it was quite some time ago and of limited power compared to the current 9.3x74R caliber. It started as a Black Powder round, and has about the power of a 30-30 or 35 Remington; a 193gr bullet at 1,952 fps.
30 August 2015, 20:39
dpcdUnlikely it was a 72; no reason to make a 72 on such a strong action when the 74 is so much better.
And it is also likely that both barrels were made at the same time; doesn't matter anyway; they are both factory. I saw such a set at the Owatonna Cabelas once.
31 August 2015, 18:45
MacD37I agree with dpcd!
I don’t know how long Chapuis has been making double rifles, but if that double has barrels chambered for 9.3X72 the rifle must have been made around 1910 or earlier.
The 9.3X72 is marginal even for deer at more than 50 yds! I would guess this rifle is a 9.3X74R rather than the 72! The 74 is a far more powerful round, just shy of the 375H&H flanged magnum. The 72 is about the same power as a .38 special plus-P handgun round.
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31 August 2015, 23:33
JonPThe 9.3x72R killed a LOT of game in past generations. Strictly a short range caliber, from a stand in the forest it killed quite well without a lot of meat damage. The 35 Rem is a good comparison and I don't think anyone would think twice about pulling the trigger on deer with a 35 Rem. In either case, these calibers are getting close to modern day shotgun slug performance.
01 September 2015, 04:16
mdstewartI have owned and shot game with several 9.3x72r's over the years. It's effective on game
up to elk at short range and a great whitetail cartridge. I currently have a JP Sauer drilling in 12x12x9.3/72R. Very underrated. Very popular in Germany for 100 years.
JP Sauer Drilling 12x12x9.3x72
David Murray Scottish Hammer 12 Bore
Alex Henry 500/450 Double Rifle
Steyr Classic Mannlicher Fullstock 6.5x55
Steyr Classic Mannlicher Fullstock .30-06
Walther PPQ H2 9mm
Walther PPS M2
Cogswell & Harrison Hammer 12 Bore Damascus
And Too Many More
01 September 2015, 07:14
dpcdNo one is saying the old 72 is a bad cartridge; just no reason to build a new one when we have the 74.
03 September 2015, 05:00
mstarlingHope it is a 9,3x74R.
I have that combination ... 9,3x74R and 20 gauge barrel set. Both are marked on the underside w the same serial number as the frame.
Mine is a box lock not a side lock.
Is a GREAT pair and wonderful hunting tool. The 20 ga bbls have truly huge reach for a shotgun.
I do better with it in the field than with a 12 gauge Citori.
Mike
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http://www.mstarling.com 08 September 2015, 23:56
BiebsMike, yes, that's typical of a European shotgun. I think a 4-choke set-up for a European gun would be:
Full
Extra Full
Ridiculously Full
Almost Closed
:-)
09 September 2015, 19:59
nitro450expHave not made it back to the shop yet.
Nitro
"Man is a predator or at least those of us that kill and eat our own meat are. The rest are scavengers, eating what others kill for them." Hugh Randall
DRSS, BASA
470 Krieghoff, 45-70 inserts, 12 ga paradox, 20 ga DR Simson/Schimmel, 12 ga DR O/U Famars, 12 ga DR SXS Greener