Torrential rain and other responsibilities lead me to take a quick two hour ride to Upstate NY for 30 minutes with the 600 NE.

I set up for 50 yards and took my first shots with my new Verney-Carron 600 Nitro Express. 4 different loads with 4 different bullets (GSC, AHR, BBS and Kodiak) and all went to nearly the same place at 50 yards. Didnt have time to set for 100 yards but frankly can't see that I would use this at 100 yards on game. Two sets of two snap shot at 25 yards with the RGB and Macifej solids went to the same place again.

I'll let the photos tell the rest of the story:



GS Custom:


AHR X-Bullet


Kodiak Bullet

Paul

Pretty work.

I always measured center to center of holes, as the center of bore axis is.

Congrats. Bring it to the Vintagers in September.

Don

Hi Don,

Thanks. I measure outside to outside and subtract a bullet diameter to figure center to center group. Works out to be the same thing.

If you look at the dial and sibtract 0.620 you get the following:

The GSC pair is 0.54" center to center, AHR pair is 0.62" c-c, the Kodiak is 1.66" c-c and the Barnes Banded Solids (Yellow Target) was 2.6" c-c.

The Macifej and RobGunBuilder bullets went into a charging tree at 25 yards so I dont have targets that I can measure with calipers.

Thanks again

Looks like minute of ele any way you measure it

Don

10 Rounds from a 600! You Da Man! thanks for the report. Nice rifle!

CCMDoc, what is your perception of the recoil?
Peter.

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Originally posted by Peter:
CCMDoc, what is your perception of the recoil?
Peter.

Wearing just a t-shirt, no sissy pad and of course no brake - not bad at all. Easy to accurately get off the left barrel in follow-up with none of the antics seen in some photos (barrels at 90 degrees to the surface of the earth). No pain at all after 12 shots.

I shoot a 600 Overkill driving 900 grain bullets at 2,200-2,300fps in an 11 pound rifle and no brake a fair amount and this is less recoil in a heaavier rifle.

If I can do it - anyone can.

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Originally posted by Rusty:
10 Rounds from a 600! You Da Man! thanks for the report. Nice rifle!

Thanks

It was fun and satisfying. I wish I had more time to shoot more than the 12 rounds I brought with me but limiting myself to those forced me to head back home and not get in trouble with the womenfolk.

Paul

If you can shoot that big bolt trash you can shoot anything!!

Hell, that stuff will make a cigar store indian flinch!

Paul, Looks like we have a bit of file work to do on the front sight when you come up to shoot!

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Originally posted by Biebs:
Paul, Looks like we have a bit of file work to do on the front sight when you come up to shoot!

Yeah I was thinking that too but will wait until I find the two loads I plan to stick with and take it from there. It seems, though, that wont be hard given this 600 seems to like everything.

Great shooting. Were you using a 6 o’clock hold or center hold? I think those big cases are great they do make a big pile with just a few, great pictures.
Bill

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Originally posted by Bill Cooley:
Great shooting. Were you using a 6 o’clock hold or center hold? I think those big cases are great they do make a big pile with just a few, great pictures.
Bill

Thanks Bill,
That was with a six-o'clock hold and the "night-time" big white bead. I hadn't realized it was "up" but given the miserable rainy, cloudy darkened weather, probably wasn't a bad thing either.

Next time I wont be as rushed and play with different holds as well as day/night beads. All else fails and I am happy with regulation, wil change out the rear leaf and work it until it is perfect with my chosen reloads.

Congratulations on a fine rifle sir!!

Thanks for sharing CC.
Congratulations with your "6"..

Thanks all.

I have to tell you that shooting that double was so much fun and so rewarding. You never really know what it will be like until you try, even though I knew the recoil couldn't be as much as 900 grains exiting my 11+lb 600 OK at 2,423fps.

I really wasn't expecting such good 50 yard L-R pairs from my first attempts at loading for this 600 so I was very pleased with these results. I'll work on my hold, etc. before doing anything on the rifle to affect the elevation, but overall I am thrilled.

Ken Buch of Kebco has been fantastic source of advice, information and support.

I'm thinking that for my next African safari I'll take my AHR-built 600 Overkill and put a scope on it (Wayne already sent me a set of Talley 30mm mounts) for anything over 50 yards and this V-C 600 NE double for the up close and personal smack-downs that are inevitable.

Wonder if the two rilfes together will be over the weight limit ... Hmmmm, also have to worry about the weight of the ammo - might be able to bring 3 or 4 rounds of each ...

CCMDoc

Nice shooting.
What ammo did the factory use to regulate with ?

Thanks
Nitro

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Originally posted by nitro450exp:
CCMDoc

Nice shooting.
What ammo did the factory use to regulate with ?

Thanks
Nitro

Thaks Nitro.
They use Kynoch ammo for regulation.

You must feel GREAT after seeing what this rifle can do in the accuracy department!

The charging trees never had a chance. With more shooting you'll really get to learn

the details of how it shoots and I'll bet the bullets wind up closer yet. The 50 yard

distance in my opinion, is really the max that you should shoot at game. I am very

happy for you that this has turned out so well! Decades of fun are in your future. Do

you know if the rifle has intercepting sears?

Thanks Jack - it really was very satisfying. I am sure you are right - more practice means better shooting.

I also agree about the range with such a beast.

Good question about the intercepting sears - I don't know the answer, though.

When we and Biebs finally get together (soon I hope) we will have quite the collection of doubles to play with.

You have as many shots with any of my doubles (and I'll probably bring along my 600 OK too) as you would like. Like a beer, wine or other "adult" beverage - half the fun is sharing the fun.

I've heard a rumor that this Verney-Carron 600 Nitro Express might be in he hands of a new owner.

To the new owner I say

CONGRATULATIONS!

You have a wonderfully accurate and absolutely stunning double rifle backed by a great guy (Ken Buch) and fantastic artisans and gunsmiths (Verney-Carron family and team).

It is a pleasure to shoot that fine double rifle and it shoulders, swings and fllows-through like the finest shotgun.

You will absolutely love this DR - I did!

Best of luck with it,

Paul

it looks like the one i just bought at SCI i sure hope it is it seems to be a shooter i have been waiting all my life for this gun

i picked it up it just felt right swings beautiful i was in the zoli booth right next to them and i just fell in love all over again i saw it last year and almost got it. i was not going to let it go again now im glad its on its way to florida

Wow, terrific groups and a gorgeous rifle. Congratulations sir!

That is way pass cool.
Relax those jaw muscels you will a cramp.

JD

Beautiful Gun!!!

We want more pictures. Give us the glamour shots.

Nice shooting and beautiful rifle. Like Rusty said, 10 rounds from that beast and you must have needed a drink. Congrats on a great rifle that shoots well.

Mike

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Originally posted by bwananelson:
it looks like the one i just bought at SCI i sure hope it is it seems to be a shooter i have been waiting all my life for this gun

If it is the same V-C 600NE and you're interested, I can email you the details of the loads that made those groups.

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Originally posted by DoubleDon:
Paul

Pretty work.

I always measured center to center of holes, as the center of bore axis is.

Congrats. Bring it to the Vintagers in September.

Don

I agree.

At last year's Southern Side By Side I had the pleasure of handling and shooting Don's VC .577NE. As some of you may know, I've built about a half dozen double rifles for myself, so I understand a little of what is good and what is not, in a side by side double rifle. THE VERNEY CARRON IMPRESSED THE HELL OUT OF ME. It is lovely to behold, a joy to handle, and a pussycat to shoot!

Congratulations CCMDoc!

That rifle is shooting very well,seemingly with what ever is jammed in the chambers!

LOOK OUT ELEPHANTS!

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Thanks for the good wishes but that is the V-C 600NE that is now in the hands of Bwananelson.

He is awaiting its arrival and I will be giving him the load data I used to make those targets.

My own 600NE is still in the "birthing" stages and the labor pains are killing me

I just keep opening this post so I can drool!

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Originally posted by tarawa:
I just keep opening this post so I can drool!

Me too!

Doc, You're done drooling over this one!

But the next one is waiting in the wings. I might even treck to the sunny southland just to fondle this babe!

Mike,

Make the trip, you'll love it when you throw it up to your shoulder.

Believe me it was not easy to part with but Ken made me an offer I couldn't refuse.

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Originally posted by CCMDoc:
Mike,
Believe me it was not easy to part with but Ken made me an offer I couldn't refuse.

An earlier thread said that Ken was a "bad bad man.." I'll steer clear of him far as long as possible!

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Originally posted by Mike Brooks:

quote:

Originally posted by CCMDoc:
Mike,
Believe me it was not easy to part with but Ken made me an offer I couldn't refuse.

An earlier thread said that Ken was a "bad bad man.." I'll steer clear of him far as long as possible!

He's a really good guy who's only goal is to have happy and satisfied customers.

Damn him!

I took some time away from the kids/ranch/work to go into town and join Ken in his booth setup, handled and assembled each of his twenty-odd guns and rifles.

Beautiful firearms and a top-shelf guy.
Ken is great and he's representing a truly fine gunmaker, offering a very wide range of styles and features.

That .600 is just sweet as
can be.
Lots and lots of rifle for the dollar.


...and BwanaNelson, you stole that thing!!



Cheers
Tinker