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Originally posted by shootaway:
I guess that most PH`s grow up in countries that have a rich hunting heritage.The kind of rifles used and how they are set up comes from years of trial and error.I think that if peeps were better on rifles for the kind of hunting done in that country it would be no secret.

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Originally posted by 458Win:

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Originally posted by shootaway:
I guess that most PH`s grow up in countries that have a rich hunting heritage.The kind of rifles used and how they are set up comes from years of trial and error.I think that if peeps were better on rifles for the kind of hunting done in that country it would be no secret.

Americans also grew up with a hunting heritage and used open sights until the military changed the sights on the 1903 from open to peep sights on the A 1. The 1917 Enfield also used a peep.

Speep is certainly a requirement of our military rifles but I don't see them bringing back the open sight on the M-4 any time soon.

My son and I did a test many years ago to see which sight, scope included, were fastest and most accurate. In other words the target - a six inch circle on a paper plate- had to be hit. As the old gun writer axiom says - speed is fine but accuracy is final.
Using rifles we were comfortable with, low powered scopes were both the fastest and most accurate past 25 yards with the large peep running a close second. At 25 and under the very fastest was simply pointing instinctively with a familiar rifle and it didn't seem to matter which sight was on the rifle, open, peep or scope!
Because we were not even seeing the sights.

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Originally posted by xausa:

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Originally posted by sharpsguy:
xausa--You clearly have no idea how to use express sights. It is a medical impossibility for the eye to focus on THREE things at once. The wide "v" express rear sight and an appropriate bead or post front is the fastest sight set up there is. On top of that, a "v" notch and blade is highly accurate. I consistently hit gallon milk jugs at a quarter mile with open barrel sights and traditional cast lead paper patched bullets with my Sharps. There are posters here on this forum that have seen me do it.

You just have to learn how to shoot and learn how to use your eyes.

sharpsguy,

Thank you for the lecture. I reread my post and nowhere could I find a place where I referred to the need to focus on all three things at the same time.

Any competitive pistol shooter, which I once was, knows that there is a need to constantly shift focus back and forth between front sight, target and rear sight, with the emphasis on the front sight.

As far as long range shooting is concerned, I have more than once put all twenty of my record shots in the seven inch ten ring on the NRA 600 yard high power target, with the majority of the shots in the three inch "X" ring. This was accomplished with a receiver sight.

I have also put four shots in a charging rhino and four shots in a running Cape buffalo, using my .505 SRE and a Lyman 48 receiver sight with the aperture removed. In the case of the buffalo, three of the shots could have been covered with a playing card.

Grenadier,

It is really unnecessary to concentrate on centering the front sight in the rear aperture when shooting at close range. The eye tends to center the front sight in any case.

cal,

The rifle was built for me to my specifications by Lon Paul on a Granite Mountain double square bridge action. It is the pride of my gun room.

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