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13 March 2012, 21:33
Lilguy
Baikal MP221
This double is in their current catalog.30-06 or 45-70. What does anyone know about them? I have a Baikal OU 12 gauge that my youngens shoot trap with.Solid gun so far.

MP221: Every hunter has had the dream
of walking on the African plains holding a side
by side rifle, ready to face down some big game. We canʼt
sell you the African plains or the big game, but we can sell you the
MP221. Baikal realized that you could not make a reasonably priced
side by side rifle with the traditional method of barrel regulation, and
came up with an elegant solution.Sight in one barrel and adjust the second barrel point
of impact via a jackscrew between the barrels.
Features: Auto Tang Safety, Double Triggers, Adjustable Barrel Regulation, 11 mm
Scope Rail Or Picatinny Rail, Adjustable Sights, Machined Steel Receiver & Mono Block,
Hammer Forged Chrome Lined Barrels, Checkered Walnut Stock & Forend, Extractors
13 March 2012, 22:09
Bill/Oregon
Lilguy, assuming this is the same one Remington briefly imported, it is a functional double rifle capable of decent accuracy. Triggers are often stiff and uneven, but can be smoothed up. I had the .45-70 briefly, and found it to be so light in weight as to be unpleasant shooting any but the mildest loads. But as a reliable budget double, I think the Baikals remain worth considering.


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13 March 2012, 22:51
Hizzie
http://forums.accuratereloadin...661039661#5661039661

http://forums.accuratereloadin...351005461#4351005461

http://forums.accuratereloadin...221062951#5221062951

You've asked about them a couple a times now. Just break out the wallet and get it over with.


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"If a man can't trust himself to carry a loaded rifle out of camp without risk of shooting somebody, then he has no business ever handling a rifle at all and should take up golf or tennis instead." John Taylor

Ruger Alaskan 416
Ruger African 223
14 March 2012, 18:46
T Agg
Lilguy

I received my MP221 in 45/70 two weeks ago and it is a blast. Straight out of the box it shot 3" groups at 50 yards using over the counter Remington 405 grain ammo. The triggers have a lot to be desired and the wood is typical Russian military grade, but I like this gun

Dean
15 March 2012, 09:50
Lilguy
None of those post are mine.
15 March 2012, 11:40
Hizzie
quote:
Originally posted by Lilguy:
None of those post are mine.


Wasn't trying to point out the exact posts you inquired about the Baikal. They are threads with good info/feedback regarding the Baikal. I was trying to be helpful by offering information on the topic you brought up. That's why you posted the topic right?


____________________________________________

"If a man can't trust himself to carry a loaded rifle out of camp without risk of shooting somebody, then he has no business ever handling a rifle at all and should take up golf or tennis instead." John Taylor

Ruger Alaskan 416
Ruger African 223
15 March 2012, 18:49
malek
T Agg:

I am looking for one in 30-06, where did you get yours from or do you know any who has one one for sale or any info on where to find one, can you PM me?

Thanks

Malek
Good shooting/hunting and God's best


Best regards

Malek
Good Hunting/Shooting and God's best.
15 March 2012, 19:19
conifer
PM sent
16 March 2012, 00:48
Lilguy
Please PM any sources for a 45-70. I have called EAA in Florida several times, they do not return
phone calls as of today.
16 March 2012, 02:10
conifer
http://www.gunbroker.com/Aucti....aspx?Item=277235943
16 March 2012, 06:39
Ellis
If you get a Baikal double rifle, and I would not discourage you from doing so, be sure to read my post titled "Baikal Double Warning/Fix". This discusses the firing pin/bushing set-up. I have had a couple of these guns in the shop that had doubling problems and both were caused by the firing pin/bushing set-up. One was going off when the gun was being closed, so checking/correcting this situation is very important.

http://forums.accuratereloadin...0101804/m/4261099071


Ellis450
20 March 2012, 23:00
Lilguy
Thanks all, I ordered one and will touch base when results in. With a bit of tweaking all the White tails I hunt wont know what hit em. I'll just read about and dream of Africa here at AR.
23 March 2012, 23:24
Jriley
Can the Baikal shoot the higher pressure .45-70 loads like the Marlin and Ruger #1? My local gunshop has had one in stock for a while and I've been debating whether to buy it or not.
23 March 2012, 23:56
Smokin Joe
They're limited to 28000 cup/psi
24 March 2012, 02:41
Lilguy
So you shoot trapdoor loads? Gun has 2200 bar on barrel.31900 psi. How do you find the pressures
for a particular factory loading. Winchester Super
X 45/70 Govt 300 gr JHP specifically.
24 March 2012, 05:42
Smokin Joe
Back when they were sold by Remington under the Spartan brand, the specs said 28000. The factory loads are, unless specified, held to SAAMI specs. The SAAMI spec for the 45-70 is 28000.
24 March 2012, 21:26
Lilguy
Thanks Joe. My new USSG has 2200 bar on the gun so my 45/70 Govt are well under spec.
27 March 2012, 22:47
foxhound
I've had mine since the Remingtons first hit the market around 3 yrs ago or so. Had both the 06 and 45/70. Both regulated fine, and had a blast doing it. Scoped both. My particular 45/70 seems to like 405's or 400's. Doesn't seem to like the 300's at all. I have heard of the opposite as well. I love carrying mine chasing deer in the close thick stuff , but when I am ridge running I still grab my old 99.
Enjoy, worth every penny.
Rick


DRSS
05 April 2012, 18:34
T Agg
Lilguy

Give us your thoughts on the Russian gun.
05 April 2012, 22:40
Lilguy
It's a clean looking utilitarian design,very happy with fit and finish. I will shoot it next high power day at club late in April. If It hits kill zone on WT's out to 100 yards it's a hell of a deal at $760.00.
05 April 2012, 23:12
T Agg
I have only put 80 rounds through my gun. I've tried most of the over the counter ammo even some of the hot stuff, but Natasha (I named her) likes heavy lead and slow speed.