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Problems already: My RCBS Rockchucker is too short.  Went to seat 500gr Woodleigh's in my 470NE and they won't come out of the press. I seated my first bullet to the cannelure and had to turn my shell holder to the back and slide shell holder out and take the loaded case out the top, with die removed. I will get a bigger press. Question that arose was: What should my OAL be?  A-Square book shows Max OAL at 3.980". When the 500gr Woodleigh is seated to the bottom of the cannelure, it was 3.850". Is this too short? Seems like it should be OK to me, because it isn't compressing the charge, but I'm kinda anal about not f#&%ing up with 106 grains of powder going off. What OAL are you seating a 500 Woodleigh to??? Any input would be appreciated.Thanks, ND Stephen Grant 500BPE Joseph Harkom 450BPE | ||
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With the Woodleighs, I always seat to the crimp groove. | |||
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I use Woodleighs also loaded to the crimp groove. You can use the standard Rock Chucker to load the .470 NE. You start the round onto the seating die without the rim in the shell holder. Then angle the round out (toward you) and slide it back into the groove in the shell holder. Not particularly convenient but does work. I don't load hundreds of rounds for this caliber at a sitting and so a little patience saves buying a new press. I have found the 87-89 grains of RL-15 with filler regulates in my older Searcy ... and kicks a lot less violently than the IMR 4831 load of 108 grains. Mike -------------- DRSS, Womper's Club, NRA Life Member/Charter Member NRA Golden Eagles ... Knifemaker, http://www.mstarling.com | |||
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Mike, I figured it out, so I can use the Rockchucker. I can get them out like you stated. I seated them to the cannelure line. I hope to do some shooting this weekend, but the wind is currently blowing about 50mph from the north here in Oklahoma. Hopefully it will lay some by Sunday. I loaded (20) 500gr Woodleigh soft nose and (10) 500gr cast bullets. I forgot how much I hate those goowey damn cast bullets!!! I may shoot these 50 casts at paper and just use the jacketed projectiles from now on. Ken Cline gave me a load for 400gr XTP's that I will try. I love XTP's on whitetails...knocks the crap out of them at around 2000ft/sec in large calibers. 400, Good to hear from you!  I am taking your advise and not using any mono's. My friend just purchased a 1920's Manton 470NE from Champlins, and we agreed that the risk is just not worth it. These guns, new or old, are just too nice to screw them up.Thanks, ND Stephen Grant 500BPE Joseph Harkom 450BPE | |||
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ND, Get a new press! Redding and RCBS both have larger presses that can be had for not a lot of money. Set both presses up on your bench and use the smaller for Sizing and the larger for bullet seating...works like a champ! ****************************************************************** R. Lee Ermey: "The deadliest weapon in the world is a Marine and his rifle." ****************************************************************** We're going to be "gifted" with a health care plan we are forced to purchase and fined if we don't, Which purportedly covers at least ten million more people, without adding a single new doctor, but provides for 16,000 new IRS agents, written by a committee whose chairman says he doesn't understand it, passed by a Congress that didn't read it but exempted themselves from it, and signed by a President, with funding administered by a treasury chief who didn't pay his taxes, for which we'll be taxed for four years before any benefits take effect, by a government which has already bankrupted Social Security and Medicare, all to be overseen by a surgeon general who is obese, and financed by a country that's broke!!!!! 'What the hell could possibly go wrong?' | |||
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My OAL with 500 gr Woodleigh is 3.852. Load is 87.5gr Rel 15 using Kynoch Wad. Jim "Bwana Umfundi" NRA | |||
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Nitrodave: I ran into the same problem with my Rockchucker press. I bought a new Supreme Rockchucker for a little over $100 and it solve the height problem. rslus | |||
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i bought the Lee Classic Press for Big cartridges and it is great for the money. | |||
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Thanks guys! I already have 2 presses on my bench...the rockchucker, and a RCBS Partner press that I only use for seating primers. I pre-load the anvil and just know the feel with the little press. In near 20 years of reloading, I have never had a misfire. I will probably need to go ahead and get the larger press anyway. I have all the stuff for 450 #2 NE and they are 1/4" longer yet. Sounds like I got my 470's seated right...I just like to get other opinions to double check myself. Thanks to all, ND  Stephen Grant 500BPE Joseph Harkom 450BPE | |||
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Rockchucker Supreme ....I have the regular one but didn't work once I got addicted to the big stuff.I also crimp to the groove in the Woodies and find a comparable "mini groove" when using North Fork cups and solids....perfecto. Gary DRSS NRA Lifer SCI DSC | |||
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I didn't crimp mine. Do most of you crimp the 470NE? Thanks, ND Stephen Grant 500BPE Joseph Harkom 450BPE | |||
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ND...not all...but I do. Someone posted once that you could take a drill and a piece of emory cloth and SLIGHTLY cut down the sizer button on the die for a firmer grip. I just crimp all of my double loads...works well. Gary DRSS NRA Lifer SCI DSC | |||
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Nitrodave, My 470 load OAL have run between 3.840 and 3.845 inches when crimped into the cannalure of Woodleigh softs using Rigby or Norma brass. I use a Rockchucker IV and it works fine. ALLEN W. JOHNSON - DRSS Into my heart on air that kills From yon far country blows: What are those blue remembered hills, What spires, what farms are those? That is the land of lost content, I see it shining plain, The happy highways where I went And cannot come again. A. E. Housman | |||
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