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After putting about 30 rounds thru my Chapuis 9,3 today and getting another nice "knot" just under the top of my cheek bone I been giving some thought to a new stock. At first I thought it might be to not ordering a cheek piece on the rifle. But after shouldering the rifle a few times and dry firing (with snap caps of course) noticed the comb appears to be to high which is forcing me to push my cheek downwards to get the sights in line. Could this end up being just a simple fix by having a stockmaker remove about 1/4 off the top of the comb? If so, who would you recommend? My biggest fear is when I die my wife will sell my guns for what I told her they cost. | ||
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Not the answer you were looking for, but until you can have it checked ou by someone who knows how to properly fit you, why not put mounts and a scope on it? It may solve your problem. I put a 2-7x leupold on mine and an extremely happy I did. Just a thought... NRA Lifer; DSC Lifer; SCI member; DRSS; AR member since November 9 2003 Don't Save the best for last, the smile for later or the "Thanks" for tomorow | |||
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Are you using a scope with it? Obviously, if use are going to use a scope most of the time, then it would be best for the stock to be a tad higher than if set just for open sight use. Alternately, add a scope and see if you could still get away with removing some timber to make it ideal for open sights yet still suitable for scope use. | |||
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Not using a scope at the moment and for the time being would really like to keep the rifle bare. How can I measure for proper comb height? Not aware of anyone around me who builds stocks and can measure. My biggest fear is when I die my wife will sell my guns for what I told her they cost. | |||
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Load the gun up with snap caps, close your eyes, throw the gun up to your shoulder and then open your eyes. That will give you the answer as to where you are in relation to the sights. You could get any stock maker to take off the top of the comb or you could replace the sights. . | |||
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I already know the comb is to high  . The bruise on my cheek confirms it every time I run more than about 10 rounds throught it.But not sure how to reduce the comb. Remove it equally on the top? Angle it? Really at a loss here and would prefer to send it to someone to be altered and refinished but have no idea who. My biggest fear is when I die my wife will sell my guns for what I told her they cost. | |||
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Snowwolfe The same thing happens to me when I shoot my 9,3 Chapuis with iron sights, esecially if I am at a range shooting off a bench. Not quite so bad when shootinging the field. This does not haen when using a scope. However, since I most often use my 9,3 with a scope I have not thought about changing the stock. Whe I shoot the iron sights I just do not crawl up the stock as much, I position my face a little farther back on the stock. Try that and see if it helps. DOUBLE RIFLE SHOOTERS SOCIETY | |||
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I really want to keep this rifle trim and light and the iron sights are fine for my use. Any suggestions on who to contact to get the stock altered? My biggest fear is when I die my wife will sell my guns for what I told her they cost. | |||
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JJ Perodeau at Champlins in Enid Oklahoma. However you should be able to find somebody In AK I would think. DOUBLE RIFLE SHOOTERS SOCIETY | |||
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Call Stan Jackson here in town. If he doesn't think he can do the job he'll send you to the right guy. But I bet he can 'getterdun'. NRA Life ASSRA Life DRSS Today's Quote: Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Give a man a welfare check, a free cell phone with free monthly minutes, food stamps, section 8 housing, a forty ounce malt liquor, a crack pipe and some Air Jordan's and he votes Democrat for a lifetime. | |||
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IT IS BEST TO HAVE IT DONE LOCALLY BY A COMPETENT GUNSMITH/STOCK FITTER. YOU'LL NEED TO BE MEASURED, ETC. THERE WILL BE UP TO THREE FITTINGS AS WOOD IS REMOVED. WHEN ALL IS PERCEIVED TO BE CORRECT, YOU'LL TEST FIRE IT. ONCE YOU ARE SATISFIED, THE FINAL FINISH WILL BE APPLIED. WENT THROUGH THIS PROCESS W/ A HIGH END BROWNING SHOTGUN. WORK WAS DONE BY TIM GERHARDT, AURORA, CO. EAGLE ONE BENEFACTOR MEMBER NRA LIFE MEMBER SCI DRSS MERKEL DR .375 H&H SABATTI DR .45-70 | |||
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This would be the challenge.....here. Antlers Double Rifle Shooters Society Heym 450/400 3" | |||
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Randy, You will really be better served by having the stock done while you are present. If you are going to spend the money might as well do it right. We all know how well a properly fitted rifle feels….It is worth the effort IMO. I would see if there are any competent smiths in Washington or some other location that you can fly out to easily. Bring the gun to the shop and see if they can make adjustments while you are there. Then you can leave it to be finished and sent to you. I would guess that there will be people able to do this for you…just keep asking. ****************************************************************** R. Lee Ermey: "The deadliest weapon in the world is a Marine and his rifle." ****************************************************************** We're going to be "gifted" with a health care plan we are forced to purchase and fined if we don't, Which purportedly covers at least ten million more people, without adding a single new doctor, but provides for 16,000 new IRS agents, written by a committee whose chairman says he doesn't understand it, passed by a Congress that didn't read it but exempted themselves from it, and signed by a President, with funding administered by a treasury chief who didn't pay his taxes, for which we'll be taxed for four years before any benefits take effect, by a government which has already bankrupted Social Security and Medicare, all to be overseen by a surgeon general who is obese, and financed by a country that's broke!!!!! 'What the hell could possibly go wrong?' | |||
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Everything is on hold at the present. Strap on one of my "ice grippers" broke during my daily 5 mile walk on Monday causing it to slide off which caused me to slip and fall crashing to the pavement. Left elbow hit first transmitting the shock to the upper ball of the humerus which fractured. Gonna be awhile before I shoot again. Considering selling the Chapuis and ordering another with "true" left hand triggers and stock built to my specs. My biggest fear is when I die my wife will sell my guns for what I told her they cost. | |||
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Sorry to hear tht Randy! Heal up fast! Breaking your humerus isn't funny!  NRA Life ASSRA Life DRSS Today's Quote: Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Give a man a welfare check, a free cell phone with free monthly minutes, food stamps, section 8 housing, a forty ounce malt liquor, a crack pipe and some Air Jordan's and he votes Democrat for a lifetime. | |||
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Snowwolfe, Heal completely and soon!!!!!  Jack OH GOD! {Seriously, we need the help.} | |||
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My cheek was swollen after 4 shots with a friend's Chapuis 470. It did not fit me & the stock comb was too high. "When the wind stops....start rowing. When the wind starts, get the sail up quick." | |||
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Get well Snowolfe. send me your e-mail...I'm here in Colorado Springs, but also have a home in Eagle River. Eagle One polarisgrp@aol.com Benefactor Member NRA Life Member SCI DRSS Merkel .375 H & H Sabatti .45-70 | |||
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Looking through the Brownells catalog has me thinking of installing a nice adjustable recoil pad. Could be a better alternative if I ever decide to attach the scope mount. Thoughts? My biggest fear is when I die my wife will sell my guns for what I told her they cost. | |||
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So how dioes that change the comb height? That's what's been knocking you around, NRA Life ASSRA Life DRSS Today's Quote: Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Give a man a welfare check, a free cell phone with free monthly minutes, food stamps, section 8 housing, a forty ounce malt liquor, a crack pipe and some Air Jordan's and he votes Democrat for a lifetime. | |||
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If you set the pad higher than the butt of the stock it lowers the comb. http://www.brownells.com/1/1/1...mium-pad-morgan.html My biggest fear is when I die my wife will sell my guns for what I told her they cost. | |||
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Hmmmm That might work.. But it is kind of fugly! NRA Life ASSRA Life DRSS Today's Quote: Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Give a man a welfare check, a free cell phone with free monthly minutes, food stamps, section 8 housing, a forty ounce malt liquor, a crack pipe and some Air Jordan's and he votes Democrat for a lifetime. | |||
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Agreed, but the stock doesnt have to be hacked up. My biggest fear is when I die my wife will sell my guns for what I told her they cost. | |||
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Hi Snowwolfe: I had my comb lowered by my gunsmith. He did it with a sander, then refinished the stock. It seems this is a very common problem with the Chapusis stock. I have a Agex Brousse in .470 NE. Regards.. Jim P. The Hunters Hut Firearms Sales & Service PAHunter/ The Head Hunter DRSS,NRA,SCI,NAHC www.huntershut1.com | |||
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I think you are going about this wrong. If your cheek is getting bruised, it's because you aren't on the comb and as it comes back in recoil it's hitting your cheek. The comb isn't too high, it's too low. Your head isn't on the stock. Just like a shotgun, "wood on wood" If your cheek was on the stock, there would be no bruising, your head would ride with the recoil. This is happening because you aren't on the stock when pulling the triggers and the gun is jumping back and hitting your cheek. JMO Brian H Longmont CO | |||
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Hi lone Cowboy: I dissagree, my cheek is welded to the stock, and it gets wacked every time I pull the trigger. Lets see I shoot my 458 Lott, 458 Win Mag, 416 Rem Mag, 375 H&H and no wack because my cheek is higher off the stock. I all ready had my comb lowered and it DOES make a difference, there is just to much wood there at the cheek rest. I shoot my buddies WR .470 no cheek rest, no problem. I learned about this from another AR member, this is NOT the first time this has been succesfully done. Regards Jim P. The Hunters Hut Firearms Sales & Service PAHunter/ The Head Hunter DRSS,NRA,SCI,NAHC www.huntershut1.com | |||
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Ok I"m wrong I just went and shot mine and the stock is too high the sights never line up correctly, I always shoot high It didn't whack my cheek though, but the stock is set up for a scope and not the iron sights. Brian H Longmont CO | |||
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A question within a question. If the height of the comb changes from open sights to scoped sights could you put an adjustable comb on, similar to a shotgun. If the comb is bruising your cheek could you put a soft comb on it. Forget ugly for the moment can this or is this ever done? My Krieghoff came as a multibarrel set. Each barrel has a removeable scope mount. I've shot each with and without the scope. When shooting the 470 barrel set I have to press into the gun to see the iron sights well. I always thought this was a good thing because it never came back and bit me as I was wood to wood tight on it. What could be different? No good deed goes unpunished. | |||
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Putting a soft comb on the rifle would just compound the problem because you would be raising the comb even more forcing you to push down even further. PAHunter, since you had your stock altered does it look out of proportion? How much of the comb was removed? Any photos? Still like the idea of the adjustable butt plate but it just looks hideous  . However it would allow to add a scope at anytime and still have the comb fit.My biggest fear is when I die my wife will sell my guns for what I told her they cost. | |||
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Hi Randey, I was looking at one of my stocks with out a cheek piece and trying to see what would be the best way to lower the comb. I would mark the area where your cheek meets the gun. Then I would mark (with a grease pencil) I would start small say .250 down from the top of the stock. Now draw a line starting flush with the heel of the stock to the front of the stock, using the mark as a locater. I would keep the original roll over or couture on the top of the stock. My description may not be clear. Hear is a link to a good article on stock fitting. I would go slow on wood removal and try the gun for fit after each round of rework. http://books.google.com/books?...20the%20comb&f=false I think you could try doing this your self or provide measurements and have some one like JJ do the work. Hope you heal quickly and can get back to shooting. Bill Member DSC,DRSS,NRA,TSRA A man who carries a cat by the tail learns something he can learn in no other way. -Mark Twain There ought to be one day - just one – when there is open season on Congressmen. ~Will Rogers~ | |||
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