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OK guys... Been a while since I posted... I've been lurking around and enjoying the back and forth. I saw something that I felt compelled to report since many searching for doubles come here first... A year or two ago I bought a Siace double rifle in 45-70 from Steve Barnett. The gun was listed "as new". When I received the double, it was the farthest thing from "as new". Steve Barnett has the gun back up for sale: http://www.gunsinternational.c...cfm?gun_id=100454895 This double rifle had barrels that had become unsoldered, The grip was cracked at the tang down through the wrist, the stock had multiple what I would describe as significant scratches and handling marks. I posted pictures here and many of you were very helpful resolving the issue. To Steve's credit, the moment I reached out to him, he said he would take care of it, and he did. I can tell from the pictures that the crack from the tang through the wrist has not been fixed - That's not to say that Steve didn't have barrels fixed. I'm not trying to denigrate Steve Barnett in any way or hurt his business. As I said above, he immediately fixed the situation. In the condition I received the gun, I do not think it would have been safe to shoot. If you're looking at this gun, be sure to have it checked out. P.S. Here is a link to my original post back when I received the gun: http://forums.accuratereloadin...391053591#9391053591 | ||
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Good heads up !! One of the pics shows the lever left of center  why not just tell the truth to make the $$ ?? Business people like that SUCK !!SUPPORT OUR TROOPS !!!! | |||
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 "The difference between adventure and disaster is preparation." "The problem with quoting info from the internet is that you can never be sure it is accurate" Abraham Lincoln | |||
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From another experience, I wouldn't buy anything from that shop. | |||
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Confirmed. He has some nice stuff at times, but you really have to be careful. Always way overpriced, and very difficult to contact. JP Sauer Drilling 12x12x9.3x72 David Murray Scottish Hammer 12 Bore Alex Henry 500/450 Double Rifle Steyr Classic Mannlicher Fullstock 6.5x55 Steyr Classic Mannlicher Fullstock .30-06 Walther PPQ H2 9mm Walther PPS M2 Cogswell & Harrison Hammer 12 Bore Damascus And Too Many More | |||
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That Daniel Frasier 450-400 seems to be a BPE and, if so, is astronomically overpriced. Dutch | |||
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I don't know Steve but as with most dealers he is very high on prices but if he gets them, why not? However, his description of the rifle for the original poster was criminal. It seems most gun dealers come from the same genetic pool as used car dealers. Cal _______________________________ Cal Pappas, Willow, Alaska www.CalPappas.com www.CalPappas.blogspot.com 1994 Zimbabwe 1997 Zimbabwe 1998 Zimbabwe 1999 Zimbabwe 1999 Namibia, Botswana, Zambia--vacation 2000 Australia 2002 South Africa 2003 South Africa 2003 Zimbabwe 2005 South Africa 2005 Zimbabwe 2006 Tanzania 2006 Zimbabwe--vacation 2007 Zimbabwe--vacation 2008 Zimbabwe 2012 Australia 2013 South Africa 2013 Zimbabwe 2013 Australia 2016 Zimbabwe 2017 Zimbabwe 2018 South Africa 2018 Zimbabwe--vacation 2019 South Africa 2019 Botswana 2019 Zimbabwe vacation 2021 South Africa 2021 South Africa (2nd hunt a month later) ______________________________ | |||
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It is certainly a nice store to walk through. Paul Smith SCI Life Member NRA Life Member DSC Member Life Member of the "I Can't Wait to Get Back to Africa" Club DRSS I had the privilege to fire E. Hemingway's WR .577NE, E. Keith's WR .470NE, & F. Jamieson's WJJ .500 Jeffery I strongly recommend avoidance of "The Zambezi Safari & Travel Co., Ltd." and "Pisces Sportfishing-Cabo San Lucas" "A failed policy of national defense is its own punishment" Otto von Bismarck | |||
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An honest high-end dealer I have had success with buying & selling on consignment is Cook & Winston in Boerne, TX. NRA Life Member, Band of Bubbas Charter Member, PGCA, DRSS. Shoot & hunt with vintage classics. | |||
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For a straight shooter I don't think George Caswell at Champlins can be beat. JPK Free 500grains | |||
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Agreed. Cal _______________________________ Cal Pappas, Willow, Alaska www.CalPappas.com www.CalPappas.blogspot.com 1994 Zimbabwe 1997 Zimbabwe 1998 Zimbabwe 1999 Zimbabwe 1999 Namibia, Botswana, Zambia--vacation 2000 Australia 2002 South Africa 2003 South Africa 2003 Zimbabwe 2005 South Africa 2005 Zimbabwe 2006 Tanzania 2006 Zimbabwe--vacation 2007 Zimbabwe--vacation 2008 Zimbabwe 2012 Australia 2013 South Africa 2013 Zimbabwe 2013 Australia 2016 Zimbabwe 2017 Zimbabwe 2018 South Africa 2018 Zimbabwe--vacation 2019 South Africa 2019 Botswana 2019 Zimbabwe vacation 2021 South Africa 2021 South Africa (2nd hunt a month later) ______________________________ | |||
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+2 on that. Although I have dealt with both Barnett and Caswell, there is a distinct difference between their dealing styles and general devotion to their chosen field. Often, I have noticed, George gets genuinely excited about gun dealing and firearms in general where Barnett comes across as it being strictly a business proposition. Granted, I have more personal interaction with George, but if you go into discussion with Steve knowing the ground, you can come away with a reasonable deal. | |||
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FWIW, my take on the difference is that with Barnett's if you are an educated buyer you can weed through the BS descriptions but run the high risk of return freight charges when the gun arrives and there is something significantly wrong with it that YOU discover that was not disclosed. Whereas with George, the gun will meet expectations and be in the condition described and safe to shoot if so described. I don't always agree with George's interpretation of X% case colors or blue or whatever, but he is consistent. I would feel entirely comfortable referring a first time buyer to George, he would be fairly treated. JPK Free 500grains | |||
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I have done business with George Caswell and known him for over 20 years. I can say he is a man of his word, and a fine fella to do busines with. DOUBLE RIFLE SHOOTERS SOCIETY | |||
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So true. JPK Free 500grains | |||
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Ditto! I don't know if you will ever get a "Deal" from George. Most importantly, you will know exact condition of the rifle and George is a man of his word! Rusty We Band of Brothers! DRSS, NRA & SCI Life Member "I am rejoiced at my fate. Do not be uneasy about me, for I am with my friends." ----- David Crockett in his last letter (to his children), January 9th, 1836 "I will never forsake Texas and her cause. I am her son." ----- Jose Antonio Navarro, from Mexican Prison in 1841 "for I have sworn upon the altar of god eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man." Thomas Jefferson Declaration of Arbroath April 6, 1320-“. . .It is not for glory, nor riches, nor honours that we are fighting, but for freedom - for that alone, which no honest man gives up but with life itself.” | |||
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Would agree with the above posts. I have purchased several rifles from George Caswell over the years and sold a double through him. The transactions were always seamless and straight. | |||
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