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First time shooting doubles!
29 January 2010, 06:41
BrettAKSCIFirst time shooting doubles!
I met up with Mike Brooks and Omnivorous_Bob today for some double rifle fun. I shot a single barrel 4 bore, 2 8 bores, a 10 bore, a 9.3x74, and .450 3.25"! Good fun for my first time shooting doubles. I was impressed with the lack of recoil out of the .450 with full power loads in a 10lbs. rifle. The 4 bore was only loaded with 8 drams, but it kicked like a mule. I can't even imagine the full 14 dram load!!! Thanks again guys!
Brett
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May fordings never be too deep, And alders not too thick; May rock slides never be too steep And ridges not too slick.
And may your bullets shoot as swell As Fred Bear's arrow's flew; And may your nose work just as well As Jack O'Connor's too.
May winds be never at your tail When stalking down the steep; May bears be never on your trail When packing out your sheep.
May the hundred pounds upon you Not make you break or trip; And may the plane in which you flew Await you at the strip.
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29 January 2010, 06:58
MacD37Your hooked!
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29 January 2010, 07:03
Idaho SharpshooterI know somebody ain't never gonna be the same...
Good on ya!
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29 January 2010, 07:42
BiebsCan you say "Fatal Attraction" !!! Welcome to the legion of 2-barrel Zombies!
29 January 2010, 08:39
Mike BrooksYep it was a hoot! Shooting the four bore SS was a 'kodak moment' for Brett and myself. Imagine a rifle that you can drop a quarter down the hole and not touch the sides!
The 8's and the 10 are very nice too don't get me wrong but after all "Bigger IS Better!!"
I took some time to play alot more with my 'wanna be' DR. A JP Sauer shottie conversion to 450NE. The shots usually were side by side about 1 1/2" apart IF I managed to do my part.
The Chapuis 9.3 as usual was a pleasure to play with too.
When we do it again there'll be more show up I'm sure.
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29 January 2010, 09:00
BrettAKSCIYour .450 and 9.3 shot beautifully! Very tight side by side groups!
Brett
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Rhyme of the Sheep Hunter
May fordings never be too deep, And alders not too thick; May rock slides never be too steep And ridges not too slick.
And may your bullets shoot as swell As Fred Bear's arrow's flew; And may your nose work just as well As Jack O'Connor's too.
May winds be never at your tail When stalking down the steep; May bears be never on your trail When packing out your sheep.
May the hundred pounds upon you Not make you break or trip; And may the plane in which you flew Await you at the strip.
-Seth Peterson
29 January 2010, 09:29
Mike BrooksAfter everyone left I played with the Whitworth 375 and the CZ FS 9.3X62 and they did as good as the DR's.. A good day even if it was a touch chilly.
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29 January 2010, 10:24
SnowwolfeAm pissed now I didnt make it! Thats what I get for being lazy.
Won't miss the next one

My biggest fear is when I die my wife will sell my guns for what I told her they cost.
29 January 2010, 10:44
Omnivorous_BobBrett, I think you may have me mixed up with our esteemed fellow member AKshooter. I know he's a DR guy too from his post about a recent bear he took with one.
I had a great time. It was good to start to get back into practice. Mike's rifles were definitely on the money too and I look forward to seeeing the new one. We'll definitely have to do this again with some more notice to get the word out when the weather gets warmer. I'm sure there's at least a dozen or two DR guys lurking around AK, and it would be a hoot and educational to try out each other's rifles.
Rob
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29 January 2010, 11:23
Mike BrooksBecause of the names getting mixed up I suspect that Brett may have a slight concussion from shooting your BIG BORES!

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29 January 2010, 13:37
BrettAKSCIquote:
Originally posted by Mike Brooks:
Because of the names getting mixed up I suspect that Brett may have a slight concussion from shooting your BIG BORES!
Holly crap you aren't kidding!!! I'm worthless. I knew Rob Seymour, but thought he was Akshooter. And I thought you were Ray Brooks AKRay.

I'd think I was old and senile. The only thing I can say in my defense was I met you when I had ear filters and muffs on at the same time and I can't hear worth a damn anyways. Wow!!! Mike and Rob it was a preasure to meet you both and shoot your guns. When Gram gets in town we'll have to get together and I'll buy you a beer or two. I can't wait for double rifle shoots at Cal's!!!
Brett
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Rhyme of the Sheep Hunter
May fordings never be too deep, And alders not too thick; May rock slides never be too steep And ridges not too slick.
And may your bullets shoot as swell As Fred Bear's arrow's flew; And may your nose work just as well As Jack O'Connor's too.
May winds be never at your tail When stalking down the steep; May bears be never on your trail When packing out your sheep.
May the hundred pounds upon you Not make you break or trip; And may the plane in which you flew Await you at the strip.
-Seth Peterson
29 January 2010, 18:03
BiebsNow all you need is to stop by Cal Pappas' cabin and touch off a few of his cannons. Then you'll be so scrambled you won't remember how to get home!
29 January 2010, 21:59
BrettAKSCIquote:
Originally posted by Biebs:
Now all you need is to stop by Cal Pappas' cabin and touch off a few of his cannons. Then you'll be so scrambled you won't remember how to get home!
If I couldn't find my way back I'd have to stay there forever shooting doubles!!!!

I wonder if Cal would let me sleep next to his .450 no.2?

Brett
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Rhyme of the Sheep Hunter
May fordings never be too deep, And alders not too thick; May rock slides never be too steep And ridges not too slick.
And may your bullets shoot as swell As Fred Bear's arrow's flew; And may your nose work just as well As Jack O'Connor's too.
May winds be never at your tail When stalking down the steep; May bears be never on your trail When packing out your sheep.
May the hundred pounds upon you Not make you break or trip; And may the plane in which you flew Await you at the strip.
-Seth Peterson
29 January 2010, 22:09
Mike Brooksquote:
Originally posted by Brett Adam Barringer:
I'd have to stay there forever shooting doubles!!!!
Not a Problem!
We would have ran out of shells after another hour or three.. Then you could have gone back..

Where else could you have gone to have that much fun with out being arrested?

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29 January 2010, 23:35
AkshooterOriginally posted by Brett
quote:
I knew Rob Seymour, but thought he was Akshooter
Wheeew- I'm glad you guys cleared that up I thought I did something I did'nt remember again.
Send me a message next time and you can shoot my double rifles.
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30 January 2010, 00:07
Omnivorous_BobBrett, i looked at my notes on the 4-bore loads you shot.
The 40gn Blue Dot/1500gn round ball load was 710fps for 1680ft-lbs. A great plinking load.
The 8dm FFg/2000gn conical was 945fps for just under 4000ft-lbs.
The 70gn Blue Dot/2000gn conical was 1070fps for just over 5000lbs.
And the 85gn Blue Dot/1500 ball was 1365fps for just over 6k.
The 8dm BP load has much more recoil/blast in my opinion than the 85gn nitro load that gives 50% more power.
The 8 loads were a 840gn ball at 1516fps for around 4200ftlbs, and 1200gn conicals at ~1200fps for a bit under 4k. I haven't chronoed the 10 loads yet, but Tolley reported 1300fps for a 5-dram gun, so I assume that's what it regulates at.
AKshooter, we'll put the word out next time and get more of us together!
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"If we're not supposed to eat animals, why are they made out of meat?"
"PS. To add a bit of Pappasonian philosophy: this single barrel stuff is just a passing fad. Bolt actions and single shots will fade away as did disco, the hula hoop, and bell-bottomed pants. Doubles will rule the world!"
30 January 2010, 07:41
BrettAKSCI1500 grain projectile at 1365fps equals 106lbs. of recoil at 20fps!!!!

Brett
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Rhyme of the Sheep Hunter
May fordings never be too deep, And alders not too thick; May rock slides never be too steep And ridges not too slick.
And may your bullets shoot as swell As Fred Bear's arrow's flew; And may your nose work just as well As Jack O'Connor's too.
May winds be never at your tail When stalking down the steep; May bears be never on your trail When packing out your sheep.
May the hundred pounds upon you Not make you break or trip; And may the plane in which you flew Await you at the strip.
-Seth Peterson
30 January 2010, 07:58
Mike BrooksLet's go for another range session next week.
Maybe AkShooter and Snowwolfe and a few others can join in.
My schedule is flexable. Thursday?
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30 January 2010, 08:26
BrettAKSCIThursday AM works for me.
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Rhyme of the Sheep Hunter
May fordings never be too deep, And alders not too thick; May rock slides never be too steep And ridges not too slick.
And may your bullets shoot as swell As Fred Bear's arrow's flew; And may your nose work just as well As Jack O'Connor's too.
May winds be never at your tail When stalking down the steep; May bears be never on your trail When packing out your sheep.
May the hundred pounds upon you Not make you break or trip; And may the plane in which you flew Await you at the strip.
-Seth Peterson
30 January 2010, 09:52
Omnivorous_BobThursday morning work for me too.
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"If we're not supposed to eat animals, why are they made out of meat?"
"PS. To add a bit of Pappasonian philosophy: this single barrel stuff is just a passing fad. Bolt actions and single shots will fade away as did disco, the hula hoop, and bell-bottomed pants. Doubles will rule the world!"
30 January 2010, 11:13
Mike BrooksGood! Then if Antlers and Snowwolfe cam make it ...
I'll get ahold of 577/500WR and check with him.
Anyone else we need to talk to?
Maybe we can talk Mac37 and N E 450 #2 into making the treck up here for it?

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30 January 2010, 15:55
SnowwolfeI can make it. I'll even bring that piece of shit Remington double that shoots under 1 inch with both barrels at 50 yards. Provided you can get past 1/4 inch of creep in the triggers

My biggest fear is when I die my wife will sell my guns for what I told her they cost.
30 January 2010, 20:02
BiebsA trigger with 1/4" of creep is good training on a double...you never know when it's going to go off, so you don't develop a flinch. It's like a back-tension release in archery. You should let the others shoot it and charge them for training time !!!!!!!
30 January 2010, 20:53
Antlersquote:
Originally posted by Mike Brooks:
Good! Then if Antlers and Snowwolfe cam make it ...
I'll get ahold of 577/500WR and check with him.
Anyone else we need to talk to?
Maybe we can talk Mac37 and N E 450 #2 into making the treck up here for it?
Sorry guys, I won't be in ANC this week - wish I was. It will probably be a few weeks before I get up there. Take some pics this time!
Antlers
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Heym 450/400 3"
30 January 2010, 23:17
Mike Brooksquote:
Originally posted by Antlers:
Sorry guys, I won't be in ANC this week
Well, then just send your rifle and lot'sa ammo.. We'll make good use of it!

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Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Give a man a welfare check, a free cell phone with free monthly minutes, food stamps, section 8 housing, a forty ounce malt liquor, a crack pipe and some Air Jordan's and he votes Democrat for a lifetime.
31 January 2010, 01:18
Antlersquote:
Originally posted by Mike Brooks:
quote:
Originally posted by Antlers:
Sorry guys, I won't be in ANC this week
Well, then just send your rifle and lot'sa ammo.. We'll make good use of it!
Well I could send ammo, but my rifle is in Dallas right now...

Antlers
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Heym 450/400 3"
31 January 2010, 01:27
Mike BrooksNo Problem... You've got lot`sa time to get it here..

It's the next best thing to being here yourself!

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Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Give a man a welfare check, a free cell phone with free monthly minutes, food stamps, section 8 housing, a forty ounce malt liquor, a crack pipe and some Air Jordan's and he votes Democrat for a lifetime.
04 February 2010, 13:11
BrettAKSCIMore doubles tomorrow. I can't wait!!!
Brett
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Rhyme of the Sheep Hunter
May fordings never be too deep, And alders not too thick; May rock slides never be too steep And ridges not too slick.
And may your bullets shoot as swell As Fred Bear's arrow's flew; And may your nose work just as well As Jack O'Connor's too.
May winds be never at your tail When stalking down the steep; May bears be never on your trail When packing out your sheep.
May the hundred pounds upon you Not make you break or trip; And may the plane in which you flew Await you at the strip.
-Seth Peterson
08 February 2010, 00:34
cal pappasSorry I missed the shoot but I was out of state selling my .600 book and now have taken teaching job to the end of the school year in May. In the spring we'll all get together at my place for some shooting fun, have a bbq or lunch at Sheep Creek Lodge. My new 4-double is a trip to shoot. It is a real chiropractic adjustment--not to take any business from DC Brett!
Cheers,
Cal
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